**2nd Annual Official '09 SF GIants reg. season Thread**
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LOL at thinking only west coast writers will vote for Lincecum
and that votes for Lincecum will garner away from cain and towards johnson. they could go to any of the top 5 pitchers.
and yes you updated numbers after cain got his 3rd loss of the year, he still has the advantage over johnson but not quite as large since his era went from 2.12 to 2.25... and even with that loss and bad game for cain, his era is still better than harens.
the nl cy young as of right now is between
1. tim lincecum
2. dan haren
3. chris carpenter
4. matt cain
5. josh johnson
after todays game its closer between matt cain and johnson, and after those 5 nobody is really on the radar.
and that votes for Lincecum will garner away from cain and towards johnson. they could go to any of the top 5 pitchers.
and yes you updated numbers after cain got his 3rd loss of the year, he still has the advantage over johnson but not quite as large since his era went from 2.12 to 2.25... and even with that loss and bad game for cain, his era is still better than harens.
the nl cy young as of right now is between
1. tim lincecum
2. dan haren
3. chris carpenter
4. matt cain
5. josh johnson
after todays game its closer between matt cain and johnson, and after those 5 nobody is really on the radar.
just saying haren fades in the 2nd half.. look at these splits.. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players...yeS5wDZ7zpndfvXyFCLcF?year=2008&type=Pitching
his ERA tends to go up alot
yea because WHIP and BAA are the key factors that decide the CY Young winner..
his ERA tends to go up alot
yea because WHIP and BAA are the key factors that decide the CY Young winner..
thanks for the link...i check out his numbers
WHIP and BAA drive the numbers that produce ERA, H, ER, K/BB
WINS are the only catagory that he 'should' trail in.......because the bullpen he has is bad and Cain and Lin have a very good pen (ya i updated giants pen to very good) to hold on to those wins...
but the CY Young is NOT like the MVP award that usually goes to a 'winner'...the CY Young usually goes to the best pitcher regardless of wins..............
MY OPINION
1. ERA (direct result of BAA and WHIP) 40%
2. K's (Dominance) 35%
3. W (Winner) 25%
WHIP and BAA drive the numbers that produce ERA, H, ER, K/BB
WINS are the only catagory that he 'should' trail in.......because the bullpen he has is bad and Cain and Lin have a very good pen (ya i updated giants pen to very good) to hold on to those wins...
but the CY Young is NOT like the MVP award that usually goes to a 'winner'...the CY Young usually goes to the best pitcher regardless of wins..............
MY OPINION
1. ERA (direct result of BAA and WHIP) 40%
2. K's (Dominance) 35%
3. W (Winner) 25%
just saying haren fades in the 2nd half.. look at these splits.. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players...yeS5wDZ7zpndfvXyFCLcF?year=2008&type=Pitching
his ERA tends to go up alot
yea because WHIP and BAA are the key factors that decide the CY Young winner..
his ERA tends to go up alot
yea because WHIP and BAA are the key factors that decide the CY Young winner..
He's are also benefiting from his BABIP being significantly lower (.251) than his career average (.297), when it regresses his WHIP/BAA should go up.
i know its just your opinion.. but i would give ERA and Wins more of a look than K's..
guys like greg maddux are a good example..
although when it came down to webb and lincecum last season.. i do believe the K's and ERA helped him win it because webb had more wins.
2008
lincecum: 18-5 265 k's 2.62 era whip: 1.17 baa: .221
webb: 22-7 185 k's 3.30 era whip: 1.20 baa: .242
guys like greg maddux are a good example..
although when it came down to webb and lincecum last season.. i do believe the K's and ERA helped him win it because webb had more wins.
2008
lincecum: 18-5 265 k's 2.62 era whip: 1.17 baa: .221
webb: 22-7 185 k's 3.30 era whip: 1.20 baa: .242
