25 years to Life for stealing gold clubs

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25 years to Life for stealing golf clubs

GARY EWING TRIED to steal three golf clubs from a California golf pro shop. He was caught and sentenced to 25 years to life.
It’s hard to believe that such harsh sentences could be handed down in the United States in this day and age. Yet, under California’s “three-strikes” law, people convicted of petty theft are facing life sentences.
In California, third-time offenders don’t get any more chances. Anyone who commits three felonies in a row-even if the third offense is a minor felony-automatically receives a sentence of 25 years to life. Both Ewing and Andrade had long criminal records, mostly for stealing.
In November, the U.S. Supreme Court was asked to strike down the three-strikes law. Defense attorneys argued such lengthy sentences are “cruel and unusual punishments” that violate the Eighth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
“If anything is grossly disproportionate, surely it’s sentencing a person to 50 years to life for stealing $152 dollars worth of videotapes,” says Andrade’s attorney Erwin Chemerinsky.
This is the first time the Supreme Court has agreed to hear a challenge to California’s three-strikes law.
Lock ‘em up and throw away the key!
When voters in California approved the three strikes law eight years ago, many didn’t have petty thieves in mind. They were thinking of the 1993 murder of 12-year-old Polly Klaas.
Richard Allen Davis, a repeat offender, was out on parole when he kidnapped and murdered Klaas. People were outraged that a man who had been released early from prison had committed the brutal crime.
So the state passed a “three strikes and you’re out” law to make sure repeat offenders stayed behind bars where they could do no more harm.
In a brief filed to the Supreme Court, the California District Attorneys Association defended the law.
People serving three-strike sentences, the association wrote, “earned their long sentences because they are the most thick-skulled and predictably wicked of felons.”
California’s Secretary of State Bill Jones helped write the law. Jones says studies showed that 60 percent of the crimes were being committed by only 6 percent of offenders. Locking up repeat offenders, therefore, was a way to reduce crime. Some statistics suggest California crime levels have gone down by 41 percent.
Punishment should fit the crime
Opponents counter that crime rates were dropping nationally before the three-strike law was passed. In fact, they say, crime is on the rise again in California. More recent studies suggest the three-strikes law has had no effect on crime rates.



Even if it was a deterrent, many say, it’s hard to justify keeping people locked up for life for stealing cookies (as in one California case).
“Shoplifting, regardless of the offender’s prior record, is still only shoplifting, and a constitutional sentence must reflect that fact,” wrote Sacramento-based federal Public Defender Quin Denvir in a brief to the court.
People opposed to California’s three-strikes law also find an unlikely ally in Joe Klaas. He was one of the people who pushed hard for the passage of the three-strikes law after the murder of his granddaughter Polly. Now, he’s a vocal opponent of the way the law is being imposed.
“We want the three-strikes law to focus only on violent crime. We don’t think people ought to get 25 years to life for shoplifting. Economically, it’s terrible for a state that’s so much in debt,” says Klaas.
Keeping people locked up in prison is expensive, opponents argue.
“In addition,” Klaas says, “it’s just obscene.”
 

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i agree. unless its a violent crime then 25 years is extreme. although dude KNEW what was gonna happen when he stole the clubs. if he doesnt get out of it i dont feel the least bit sorry for him.
 
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25 years is insane and you should feel sorry for him. You have to remember most of these people who get caught for little crimes like this over and over are people who are struggling in society and they do what they can to get by.
 

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You have to remember most of these people who get caught for little crimes like this over and over are people who are struggling in society and they do what they can to get by.
yeah, my hearts bleeding over here. if thats the case, then not only you and i, but he as well are better off with him in a cage. like i said the penalty is extreme but then again what idiot knowingly risks 25 years of his life to steal 3 golf clubs? IS THAT SOMEONE WORTH HAVING IN SOCIETY?
 
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LOL!!!! So someone who has a stealing problem is going to KILL someone??

I never said I dont think he should be punished, but I did say there are other solutions then 25 years in PRISON.

Maybe sometype of rehabilitation program.
 

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LOL!!!! So someone who has a stealing problem is going to KILL someone??

I never said I dont think he should be punished, but I did say there are other solutions then 25 years in PRISON.

Maybe sometype of rehabilitation program.

actually, if 25 years of prison is not enough to deter this guy from stealing golf clubs then he deserves 50!!!!!
DESERVES.
 
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i think its a bit extreme, but i don't feel sorry for this guy. He's a fucking idiot for doing that shit again, he already had 2 chances where they let him off easy, but the dumb motherfucker does it again knowing exactly what's in store for him, i think he's fucking stupid and deserves to go to jail.
 

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its kinda like the people bitching about it being too hard to vote and shit. some people cant understand the simple instructions and shit. DO WE REALLY WANT THESE PEOPLE VOTING???
 
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its kinda like the people bitching about it being too hard to vote and shit. some people cant understand the simple instructions and shit. DO WE REALLY WANT THESE PEOPLE VOTING???








DOES IT REALLY MATTER , NO ONE VOTES SO WHAT IF A FELON VOTED I COULD GIVE A SHIT ITZ NOT LIKE A FELON IS GONNA DO ANY HARM IN VOTING THATS THE DUMBEST SHIT I EVER HEARD