2011 Dodge Charger - Official Photos and Info
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Real talk, in terms of "potential, the new 5.0's are nearly the equivalence of supercharged 2003/04 Cobra's. A few bolt on's in an 03/04 Cobra and you can have a 600hp car with less than 5k if you know what you're doing. The newer 5.0's have already proven to be just as good as the 03/04 Cobra's.. BUT they do it ALL MOTOR. The only potential you see like that with an all motor setup is with LS1/LS2/LS6/LS7 motor cars ie Camaro's and Corvette's.. or all motor swapped Honda's that weigh as much as go karts. Minor bolt ons, suspension and tires is all it took for the new Stang's to run high 10's with full interior.. and they did this the same month Ford released the cars to the public. Your favorite rapper's Ferrari Enzo runs mid to high 11's in the quarter mile.. do the math.
And if you're talking about the older Foxbody 5.0's, all you need is heads/cam and a decent dyno tune to make 300hp and you'll easily beat this new 6.4 Hemi that is supposed to make around 500hp. Especially 300hp in a Notchback 5.0. (trunk)
And it's not what the dealership tells you about horsepower, it's the dyno sheets. Just like Hip Hop artists, cars are often over and underrated than what they are advertised to the public.
And if you're talking about the older Foxbody 5.0's, all you need is heads/cam and a decent dyno tune to make 300hp and you'll easily beat this new 6.4 Hemi that is supposed to make around 500hp. Especially 300hp in a Notchback 5.0. (trunk)
And it's not what the dealership tells you about horsepower, it's the dyno sheets. Just like Hip Hop artists, cars are often over and underrated than what they are advertised to the public.
Do I give a shit about "my favorite rappers Ferrari"?
LOL No.
I've got 8 year old technology that has been producing stock acceleration numbers the same as the new Mustang, well... for 8 years.
Ford will get it right when they make a base model V8 with heart stopping numbers. They run a stock 0-60 of 4.6 and a 1/4 mile in 13.2... and even then those numbers are shaved down for magazine articles.
That's with that magical 412 horsepower in that even more majestic 5.0, whereas my menial 325 horsepower pulls the same numbers from the factory, once again... 8 years ago.
They are behind, and if it weren't for the fact that the Mustang's name is so iconic, people would recognize they're buying a brick with cheap interior parts and an overly colorful gauge display.
Oh, and you ain't beating shit with a cammed Foxbody pushing 300 horse. lol
That's a fucking joke.
My buddy has a '93 with heads, cam, blah blah blah everything under the sun and it's still a 13 second car.
There's nothing overly impressive (now) about a built 5.0.
The reason they got so popular was because of great marketing and at one point they were the fastest stock production vehicle outrunning police.
This is 2010 now and there are lots of cars out there that can and will embarrass any of the cars mentioned in this thread.
When I answer the question "Is your Impala pretty fast?", the answer I give people is "It's 1996 fast."
That's no different a story with a Foxbody.
LOL No.
I've got 8 year old technology that has been producing stock acceleration numbers the same as the new Mustang, well... for 8 years.
Ford will get it right when they make a base model V8 with heart stopping numbers. They run a stock 0-60 of 4.6 and a 1/4 mile in 13.2... and even then those numbers are shaved down for magazine articles.
That's with that magical 412 horsepower in that even more majestic 5.0, whereas my menial 325 horsepower pulls the same numbers from the factory, once again... 8 years ago.
They are behind, and if it weren't for the fact that the Mustang's name is so iconic, people would recognize they're buying a brick with cheap interior parts and an overly colorful gauge display.
Oh, and you ain't beating shit with a cammed Foxbody pushing 300 horse. lol
That's a fucking joke.
My buddy has a '93 with heads, cam, blah blah blah everything under the sun and it's still a 13 second car.
There's nothing overly impressive (now) about a built 5.0.
The reason they got so popular was because of great marketing and at one point they were the fastest stock production vehicle outrunning police.
This is 2010 now and there are lots of cars out there that can and will embarrass any of the cars mentioned in this thread.
When I answer the question "Is your Impala pretty fast?", the answer I give people is "It's 1996 fast."
That's no different a story with a Foxbody.
Magazine articles "rated" the C6 Z06 to run 11.5-11.7's.. where as Corvette enthusiasts have got the car to run 10.9's BONE STOCK on STREET RADIAL tires. Let's not get started with what the car would run with slicks or drag radials. This is no different from the new Mustang's which I have seen personally at Sacramento Raceway AND numerous video's on YouTube of it running mid to high 12's bone stock.
EVEN IF you are correct, which has no logic, the new 5.0 motors respond WAY better to mods than an SRT-8 Charger. You mean to tell me a 325hp/4000lb+ car has the same acceleration as a car with "412hp" that weighs 600lbs less? The only thing that would offset that is a bad driver.
What's your buddy's setup? Did he even dyno @300hp or does he just have "parts that would give him 300hp". That's a big difference. Don't forget, stock SRT-8 Chargers are 13 second cars also at best.
And without a doubt a 300hp all motor 302 Stang would murder a Charger easily.. and it IS impressive because that 20 year old technology is just as good and will keep up, if not beat, the current stock cars today which are getting pretty fast every fuckin year.
It took my boy's SRT-8 TONS of nitrous to run high 10's, yet here's a 360hp Hatchback Mustang UNTUNED and ALL MOTOR doing the same.
Both my homey's own a well known used and new tire shop here in the South Bay Area and one of them happens to have a heads/cam 5.0.. and it just so happens that he raced AND beat a Dodge Charger for a couple hundred bucks. His 5.0 is built for nitrous with an automatic built for dead stop drag racing.. so to beat a Dodge Charger from a roll says alot. Nitrous built motors are garbage off the bottle.
And don't give me the "the Dodge Charger is completely stock" story.. you don't put money against a Mustang like this if you don't have anything done to your car. Here's the same car from the last video on the button running low 10's.
If you were in the Bay Area I'd say let's setup a race with your car against one of my folks' mildly built heads/cam 5.0. But if there are any locals looking to prove me wrong, we could always set something up.
And FWIW, I think Charger's look dope.. it's just not something I would try to make fast cause of the 4000lb+ platform. Very nice daily driver regardless.
EVEN IF you are correct, which has no logic, the new 5.0 motors respond WAY better to mods than an SRT-8 Charger. You mean to tell me a 325hp/4000lb+ car has the same acceleration as a car with "412hp" that weighs 600lbs less? The only thing that would offset that is a bad driver.
What's your buddy's setup? Did he even dyno @300hp or does he just have "parts that would give him 300hp". That's a big difference. Don't forget, stock SRT-8 Chargers are 13 second cars also at best.
And without a doubt a 300hp all motor 302 Stang would murder a Charger easily.. and it IS impressive because that 20 year old technology is just as good and will keep up, if not beat, the current stock cars today which are getting pretty fast every fuckin year.
It took my boy's SRT-8 TONS of nitrous to run high 10's, yet here's a 360hp Hatchback Mustang UNTUNED and ALL MOTOR doing the same.
Both my homey's own a well known used and new tire shop here in the South Bay Area and one of them happens to have a heads/cam 5.0.. and it just so happens that he raced AND beat a Dodge Charger for a couple hundred bucks. His 5.0 is built for nitrous with an automatic built for dead stop drag racing.. so to beat a Dodge Charger from a roll says alot. Nitrous built motors are garbage off the bottle.
And don't give me the "the Dodge Charger is completely stock" story.. you don't put money against a Mustang like this if you don't have anything done to your car. Here's the same car from the last video on the button running low 10's.
If you were in the Bay Area I'd say let's setup a race with your car against one of my folks' mildly built heads/cam 5.0. But if there are any locals looking to prove me wrong, we could always set something up.
And FWIW, I think Charger's look dope.. it's just not something I would try to make fast cause of the 4000lb+ platform. Very nice daily driver regardless.