@20 - about pi

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@ basicc aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I aint going to go there with you but I will say this. the number was in dudes head he tried to kill himself because the number was killing him.

@ 20- oooooooh the spirals YEAH THAT WAS THE DEEPEST PART. that's what really made me want to buy the movie.

everything in the universe works in a pulse or cycle. the chaotic part is the abberations that we are aware of which are comprised of intersecting or colliding cycles.

I dug the fuck outta that part.

@ YOUNGMOE - its a funny thing 20 had just recommended Requiem to me.

@ kryptic - LMAO @ hungry and pi. . .for some odd reason Cartman and south park come to mind
 
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He NEVER found it though did he?!! don't sit there and dance around it. YOU KNOW how much this means to the Atheist faith if you say, yeah he never found it. Cause if he DID, the movie would of said it. Since it failed to, you are basing your premise on assumptions. YOU know and the rest of the scientific community does not accept that. Right?
 
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"1. Mathematics is the language of nature.
2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature."
BaSICCally said:
He NEVER found it though did he?!! don't sit there and dance around it. YOU KNOW how much this means to the Atheist faith if you say, yeah he never found it. Cause if he DID, the movie would of said it. Since it failed to, you are basing your premise on assumptions. YOU know and the rest of the scientific community does not accept that. Right?
What are you talking about??? Watch the movie again, he did find the number. Thats why at the end....Shit, just watch the film.

What does this movie have to do with the "Atheist Faith"?????

I think you are confused on something...IT WAS A MOVIE!!! Of course "the number" was never mentioned in real life.




"A gifted young actress who consulted with us on the film's depiction of migraine, had a long period during which she would be awakened every morning at exactly 4:07 to a pain like "A HOT DRILL ENTERING HER RIGHT TEMPLE." The pain increased from there. For the eternity of the next hour or two, she would hide in the darkest place she could find, often a closet. Sometimes she would bang her head against the wall,trying to dislodge the pain. All light, sounds, smells and human contact became unbearable. '

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Something interesting about Pi....

"Pi is both the sixteenth letter of the Greek alphabet and the symbol which represents the world's oldest mathematical mystery: the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter.

The earliest known written record of the ratio comes from 1650 BCE Egypt, where a scribe calculated the value to be 3.16 (a mere 1% off the true value). Although now, we have methods to calculate the digits of pi (3.1415...) its exact value remains a mystery.

Since 1794, when it was proven that Pi was both irrational and infinite, people have been searching for a pattern in the endless string of numbers.

As it turns out, Pi can be found everywhere, from astronomy to probability to the physics of sound and light. To date it has been calculated to over 51 billion digits, so far with no discernible pattern emerging from its numbers. In fact, the first time that the sequence 123456789 appears, it is over 500 million digits into the ratio. Calculating the digits to millions of decimal places is now used to test computers for bugs in hardware and software (which is how Intel's Pentium found a chip bug a few years ago).

If you prefer to calculate Pi the old fashioned way, you're not alone. Hundreds of clubs have been formed to celebrate and calculate the ratio, many of which require a good deal of sequence memorization in order to join. The current world record for pi memorization was made in 1995, when a Japanese man recited 42,000 digits from memory in just over nine hours. "
 
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"The Entrance Into the Knowledge of All Existing Things"

"Pi possibly first entered human consciousness in Egypt. The earliest known reference to pi occurs in a Middle Kingdom papyrus scroll, written around 1650 BCE by a scribe named Ahmes. He began scroll with the words: "The Entrance Into the Knowledge of All Existing Things" and remarks in passing that he composed the scroll "in likeness to writings made of old." Towards the end of the scroll, which is composed of various mathematical problems and their solutions, the area of a circle is found using a rough sort of pi."
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
"1. Mathematics is the language of nature.
2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature."


What are you talking about??? Watch the movie again, he did find the number. Thats why at the end....Shit, just watch the film.

What does this movie have to do with the "Atheist Faith"?????

I think you are confused on something...IT WAS A MOVIE!!! Of course "the number" was never mentioned in real life.
Yeah, Mathmatics, or numbers is the language of nature, however it is words that animate and define nature. Without words or history, humans would cease existence.

Culture is shaped by words(language) not numbers.

Maybe the character in the movie found the "secret". However my entire point is that there is NO secret or way to manipulate the New York Stock Exchange. What I am trying to get at is there is science is limited in a lot of aspects. IE the New York Stock Exchange. Make sense?

So this goes to show that the Scientific faith is limited. Only the past can be messured not the future. The future can only be assumed.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
"1. Mathematics is the language of nature.
2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature."


What are you talking about??? Watch the movie again, he did find the number. Thats why at the end....Shit, just watch the film.

What does this movie have to do with the "Atheist Faith"?????

I think you are confused on something...IT WAS A MOVIE!!! Of course "the number" was never mentioned in real life.
Yeah, Mathmatics, or numbers is the language of nature, however it is words that animate and define nature. Without words or history, humans would cease existence.

Culture is shaped by words(language) not numbers.

Maybe the character in the movie found the "secret". However my entire point is that there is NO secret or way to manipulate the New York Stock Exchange. What I am trying to get at is there is science is limited in a lot of aspects. IE the New York Stock Exchange. Make sense?

So this goes to show that the Scientific faith is limited. Only the past can be messured not the future. The future can only be assumed.
 
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BaSICCally said:


Yeah, Mathmatics, or numbers is the language of nature, however it is words that animate and define nature. Without words or history, humans would cease existence.

Culture is shaped by words(language) not numbers.

Maybe the character in the movie found the "secret". However my entire point is that there is NO secret or way to manipulate the New York Stock Exchange. What I am trying to get at is there is science is limited in a lot of aspects. IE the New York Stock Exchange. Make sense?

So this goes to show that the Scientific faith is limited. Only the past can be messured not the future. The future can only be assumed.
You’re still missing the point. THE MOVIE IS BASED UPON A MANS THEORY THAT EVERYTHING CAN BE PREDICTED WITH MATHEMATICS. I never claimed I or anybody else for that matter believes this. But I will say that I do believe mathematics has done more for mankind then ALL religions combined.

I don’t understand how you can say "Scientific faith is limited." Science is growing by the minute. New answers are being discovered daily. I don’t think you have much faith in human intelligence and what lies a head for the race. Humans are very young. We have only begun to penetrate knowledge.

"The Entrance Into the Knowledge of All Existing Things"
 
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@basicc - you are indeed a supremely inept and uneducated dumbass!

sound is numbers words are combinations of sounds. the language we speak and read are mathematical principles.

culture is shaped by numbers just ass everything else

the future can be measure if you have control over the variables
i.e.

2 . . . . + . . . . 2 . . . . =
what is the future of those two variables in this algorithm?

look at the top of this post. wow see how I predicted the result.

think infant think
 
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@basicc - you are indeed a supremely inept and uneducated dumbass!

sound is numbers words are combinations of sounds. the language we speak and read are mathematical principles.

culture is shaped by numbers just ass everything else

the future can be measure if you have control over the variables
i.e.

2 . . . . + . . . . 2 . . . . =
what is the future of those two variables in this algorithm?

look at the top of this post. wow see how I predicted the result.

think infant think
Is this guy serious?!

THE FUTURE CANNOT BE PREDICTED OR CONTROLED! hahaha

where was math before 9-11?

culture is shaped by language. Why do you think there is so many different cultures? If mathmatic is the axiom shaping all cultures then it would be the same.
 
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BaSICCally said:
im sure they did but that doesnt hide the fact that MATH DID NOT PREDICT IT!
I'm not hiding any facts. ONCE AGAIN THE MOVIE WAS BASED UPON A THEORY THAT MATHEMATICS CAN PREDICT ANYTHING IN LIFE.

THIS THEORY HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN YET, THEREFOR, 9/11 COULD NOT HAVE BEEN PREDICTED BY MATHEMATICS.

Watch the movie again. There is a reason why the movie is called Pi. The number Pi is supposedly an infinite number with no patterns or traces of any patterns. The movie is called Pi because the theory is, if humans can brake Pi, then they will have the answers to everything in life. Hence the quote by the ancient Egyptian, "[Pi is] The Entrance into the Knowledge of All Existing Things"