15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America [pics not much to read]

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Nov 24, 2003
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Let's throw out the subjectivity of the idea of "working" for a moment.

Even in that case, arguing whether capitalism works or doesn't work is like arguing whether a neighborhood works or doesn't work.

Neighborhoods can't work or not work, because a neighborhood is simply a collection of homes in a particular vicinity.

Any argument of a neighborhood working or not working would presuppose the acceptance of some goal that is specific only to the individual creating the goal.

Capitalism is simply the description of an economic system. Capitalism doesn't exist to make people rich anymore than it exists to redistribute wealth or promote economic equality.

Any goal attributed to capitalism is done by the individual and not by the nature of capitalism.

Capitalism itself seeks to do nothing
 
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this is just in america where the poor are fat and the rich act broke.....capitalism has a worse impact in other countries we are at the good end of it IMO
 
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Let's throw out the subjectivity of the idea of "working" for a moment.

Even in that case, arguing whether capitalism works or doesn't work is like arguing whether a neighborhood works or doesn't work.
Subjectively speaking, employers and employees make the economy go around. As part of a team, everyone should bask in the sun so to speak, not just an elite few.

Neighborhoods can't work or not work, because a neighborhood is simply a collection of homes in a particular vicinity.

Any argument of a neighborhood working or not working would presuppose the acceptance of some goal that is specific only to the individual creating the goal.
This world is built around self interest. Although an individual or individuals lead a neighborhood, the neighborhood as a whole should benefit as all the residents of the said neighborhood play a vital part in its overall function. Whether it be detouring graffiti vandals, break-ins, etc., the neighborhood as a whole benefits. This is a hypothetical analysis obviously. Every company needs a chief. Some are just meant to be indians.

Capitalism is simply the description of an economic system. Capitalism doesn't exist to make people rich anymore than it exists to redistribute wealth or promote economic equality.

Any goal attributed to capitalism is done by the individual and not by the nature of capitalism.

Capitalism itself seeks to do nothing
Capitalism allows these rap artists on this very site to create businesses and sell music. It allows private entities to keep their profits. It is the dream of many who come here. Although we are not a perfect society, the opportunity here in the United States to be successful is available to everyone.

I think what you are getting at is all agenda's etc. revolve around self interest. I say think because I am not sure what exactly it is you are trying to get across.
 
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technically success is achievable in our system, but in actuality the same system begets micro-systems that work against the possibility of achieving success. So what is better theory or actuality...You can get this, but most likely you won't.
 
Nov 24, 2003
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Subjectively speaking, employers and employees make the economy go around. As part of a team, everyone should bask in the sun so to speak, not just an elite few.



This world is built around self interest. Although an individual or individuals lead a neighborhood, the neighborhood as a whole should benefit as all the residents of the said neighborhood play a vital part in its overall function. Whether it be detouring graffiti vandals, break-ins, etc., the neighborhood as a whole benefits. This is a hypothetical analysis obviously. Every company needs a chief. Some are just meant to be indians.



Capitalism allows these rap artists on this very site to create businesses and sell music. It allows private entities to keep their profits. It is the dream of many who come here. Although we are not a perfect society, the opportunity here in the United States to be successful is available to everyone.

I think what you are getting at is all agenda's etc. revolve around self interest. I say think because I am not sure what exactly it is you are trying to get across.

The point I am trying to get across is; who said everyone should bask in the sun and neighborhoods should benefit from anything?

Look up the definition of either; no where does it say "neighborhoods are created to benefit a community" or "capitalism is used to make society better"

Both of those are your personal interpretation of what they SHOULD do, not what they are. They are definitions with no motive other than what an individual subjectively chooses to define it by.

A neighborhood is collection of people. Nothing more, nothing less. It seeks to do nothing

Capitalism is what happens when goods are privately owned and price is defined by the balance between supply and demand. Nothing more, nothing less. Capitalism itself seeks to do nothing.
 
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technically success is achievable in our system, but in actuality the same system begets micro-systems that work against the possibility of achieving success. So what is better theory or actuality...You can get this, but most likely you won't.
There is no doubt the system over sees itself and the many intertwined "micro-systems." These "micro-systems" are really just big business ventures. But in "actuality" it is us the people that work against the possibility of achieving success. It is 2010, if know better you have to do better.
 
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The point I am trying to get across is; who said everyone should bask in the sun and neighborhoods should benefit from anything?
Not me or you. Who said we all should not bask in the sun together? Isn't this what thou bible preaches? Love and treat thou neighbor as you want to be treated?(sarcasm as I am not religious)

Look up the definition of either; no where does it say "neighborhoods are created to benefit a community" or "capitalism is used to make society better"

Both of those are your personal interpretation of what they SHOULD do, not what they are. They are definitions with no motive other than what an individual subjectively chooses to define it by.

A neighborhood is collection of people. Nothing more, nothing less. It seeks to do nothing

Capitalism is what happens when goods are privately owned and price is defined by the balance between supply and demand. Nothing more, nothing less. Capitalism itself seeks to do nothing.

I really can't argue because you are technically correct. But looking at a community as just a collection of people and overlooking the different groups within many communities that do come together to benefit eachother is ludacrious. Not all neighborhoods are the same. Each has its own distinct logistics.
 
May 9, 2002
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It does work since "working" is subjective.
Sure it does. In a sense that it is a broken concept that just hobbles along and creates nothing but class separation (yes, I realize that is a very vague statement).

Of course it is subjective in that those 1 per-centers who have millions of dollars...it "worked" for them. But I can guarantee you there are a bunch of other folks who would say that capitalism as a economic structure is "broken".

The concept a capitalism structure has nearly destroyed altruism...you and I have talked about this before.
 
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technically success is achievable in our system, but in actuality the same system begets micro-systems that work against the possibility of achieving success. So what is better theory or actuality...You can get this, but most likely you won't.
kinda like Obama wanting to put a college education within reach of every American, but then when you utilize your degree and hopefully become successful he wants to tax the shit out of you and make you pay for the majority of americans who dont pay taxes?