12 PROPOSTIONS ON THE CALIFORNIA GENERAL ELECTION BALLOT!!!
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punishing people for homosexuality is just like punishing people for who they worship. it would be almost similar to proposing 'only jewish, catholic and christian marriages are legal in america'........bottom line marriage is 1) two people showing others they love each other and 2) how to get benefits, tax breaks, health care coverage and other shit like that.....
and to all who are so fearful of their children being taught how to be gay (in as early as second grade
) y'all are fucking stupid. sex ed isn't taught till older for one, and for two those stupid ass fucking commercials were just saying hypothetical shit to use scare tactics to have people sway their way. there is NOTHING on the bill saying ANYTHING regarding curriculum or any other educational matters.
this is pretty much "do you care who someone else marries?" if dick wants to marry jane or if he wants to marry peter it shouldn't make a difference to you.
and to all who are so fearful of their children being taught how to be gay (in as early as second grade
) y'all are fucking stupid. sex ed isn't taught till older for one, and for two those stupid ass fucking commercials were just saying hypothetical shit to use scare tactics to have people sway their way. there is NOTHING on the bill saying ANYTHING regarding curriculum or any other educational matters. this is pretty much "do you care who someone else marries?" if dick wants to marry jane or if he wants to marry peter it shouldn't make a difference to you.
Hey man, good shit, i think you just made up my mind for me on this one. If you read my earlier post i said i was confused about 8, wasnt sure where to go with it. But you bring up a good point i never really thought about. Its easy to overlook gay people and yadada because im straight, and i like to think that church should stay seperate from state. anyway, back to the point, if catholic/christians were the minority here, and i was being discriminated against for believing in what i believe in, i would not like it because its not the governments business what i believe in.
So the question really comes to this. Is it the governments business and job to mandate whether or not gay people get married? No. Is it the job of the government to mandate what its constituents want? Yes.
Thats where the problem is, people need to be put in the situation of a gay person and look at themselves as a person being discriminated against because of who they are.
i believe someone who is gay, knows there gay from day 1. and i was all for civil unions but that creates a second class.
i also believe the obama ticket is for gay marriage but they know so many people are against it that they have to ask themselves, do i need those votes? and yes they do.
but yea, good point. No on 8.
to answer that one question
if you look around, theres alot of bisexuality. in and out of the open. that means to me that alot of people didnt clearly decide what side they were on, much less to this day. whatever reason they chose for that, that lets me know that people do a certain amount of choosing within their sexual interests...ive known bisexual girls to settle down with guys once they found the right ones and didnt look at women physically or mentally the same afterwars..but w that said im not even really just speaking on homosexuality, sometimes peopel get into s&m, being slaves, all types of weird ass shit that they wasnt originally interested in. now i think if you did stick to a certain gender, therein lies how you did your choosing, or you would have tried different things. you were so interested in what one specific thing that you never strayed to know that you even made a choice. but you did really. i think thats part of the reason some gay people say they were born that way, its the same as how a straight person says they were born that way. they made a choice way before it was a concievable thought that there was a choice to be made. some sort of attraction for the opposite sex would have had to risen for you to be interested physically in one side in comparison to the other.
but then that shit might have alot to do with media, this that and the third. i remember my mom took me to see purple rain with some other lady's lil girl...and we were watching that shit and sneaking kisses with eachother..and those kisses might have been influenced by the movie cuz purple rain was kinda a love joint...but at no point did it dawn on me that something was a little off about prince. too young to even know about all that. i think thats where choice comes in. people get a little older and sometimes experiment, and thats sorta up to them.
just like pimp c says dont be taintin' the pussy pool with yo shitty ass dick hoppin in and hoppin out..lmao
if you look around, theres alot of bisexuality. in and out of the open. that means to me that alot of people didnt clearly decide what side they were on, much less to this day. whatever reason they chose for that, that lets me know that people do a certain amount of choosing within their sexual interests...ive known bisexual girls to settle down with guys once they found the right ones and didnt look at women physically or mentally the same afterwars..but w that said im not even really just speaking on homosexuality, sometimes peopel get into s&m, being slaves, all types of weird ass shit that they wasnt originally interested in. now i think if you did stick to a certain gender, therein lies how you did your choosing, or you would have tried different things. you were so interested in what one specific thing that you never strayed to know that you even made a choice. but you did really. i think thats part of the reason some gay people say they were born that way, its the same as how a straight person says they were born that way. they made a choice way before it was a concievable thought that there was a choice to be made. some sort of attraction for the opposite sex would have had to risen for you to be interested physically in one side in comparison to the other.
but then that shit might have alot to do with media, this that and the third. i remember my mom took me to see purple rain with some other lady's lil girl...and we were watching that shit and sneaking kisses with eachother..and those kisses might have been influenced by the movie cuz purple rain was kinda a love joint...but at no point did it dawn on me that something was a little off about prince. too young to even know about all that. i think thats where choice comes in. people get a little older and sometimes experiment, and thats sorta up to them.
just like pimp c says dont be taintin' the pussy pool with yo shitty ass dick hoppin in and hoppin out..lmao
thats not true. i dont go into mcdonalds thinking i have fucking choices. i just get what i fucking always get. i dont go hmmm how about a mcrib and a parfait today..ive made my choice unknowingly way before i even get to a field where i have a choice. and kissing girls was obviously what i was into, so that choice was made, or i woulda been runnin around fucking my family dog.
well i dont feel attacked at all man, dont worry about it...some peopel might not have felt secure enough in themselves to answer that question... i think where we're a little mixed up is i believe some people did have an option to choose either or, some of us, it was clear cut...i think theres alot of mindstates in the world and at a young age kids are very easily influenced and manipulated by friends or family or what have you...either way, to homosexuality or heterosexuality...even being taught blue is for boys and pink is for girls makes a divide for you right there and you either choose to be on one side or your caught puttin your moms lipstick on like hus.....for instance my homies girl said she was kissing girls as a kid and like she went away for the summer, came back and those same girls refused to even acknowledge that they used to kiss....and she was confused why, because she hadnt learned those same lessons yet. so i wonder really, does that come into play for some people? do they choose if given a chance to choose? i would think, that people interested in the opposite sex picked that up from their parents, or peopel around them..right? those are the first early influences. sucking on your moms tit or something. so maybe in that way your choice has been made early. but if you made the concious decision to never sway, that to me seems to be a choice in itself. if im wrong in my definition of choice in that particular concept, let me know...because thats what im basing it on
im from frisco. i was exposed to a lot as a kid. walking down the T.L. with moms seeing all the dope fiends. walking down mission, seeing all the nortes n surs. DRIVING through Castro to Divis., clowning all the gays with pops. and through those times, i was trying to kiss little girls and look up their school girl skirts. thats exposure.
on the subject of homos...no homo...when we talk about gays we tend to just think of dudes...but here's one thing we can all be sure of...if any of us have any daughters, there's probably a 80% chance they will make out with another girl at some point...mainly from the ages of 18-25 when they start getting wasted and partying. i love watching it, but hate thinking of the fact that my daughter (if i have one) will likely be getting down with that shit....or maybe i just hang out with a lot of sluts and thats why i think that shits so prevalent
This PROP. 8 thing is making hella noise right now. I just read in the Oakland Tribune that the Asian Population overwhelmingly opposes Prop. 8. In California Asians are 12% of the population....And you know the gay people finna come out and try and strike this shit down. This same PROP will be on the ballot for years from now, just will be dressed up a little different.