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Yeah the 49ers suck so bad it makes the division look terrible nice way of dissing your own team lol
Earl is right about the NFC having better teams though, Atlanta, Seahawks, GB, Carolina last year and AZ, etc. It's been like that for a while too, AFC it's been the Patriots and no one else has been good over the years besides Denver with Manning. Other than that AFC hasn't been as deep, so you get terrible teams like Houston in the division round and easy games for the Patriots. Obviously not their fault just the way it is.
Earl is right about the NFC having better teams though, Atlanta, Seahawks, GB, Carolina last year and AZ, etc. It's been like that for a while too, AFC it's been the Patriots and no one else has been good over the years besides Denver with Manning. Other than that AFC hasn't been as deep, so you get terrible teams like Houston in the division round and easy games for the Patriots. Obviously not their fault just the way it is.
lol. So many loyal fans across the world
Of course all the New England fans came to his defense but what Earl was saying was true. Have you seen the opposing QBs the Patriots have faced this year? It's crazy how bad it was:
The best QB they faced was Russell Wilson and they lost at home, the rest - Charlie Whitehurst, Kaepernick, Jared Goff, Matt Moore, Ryan Fitzpatrick (twice), Trevor Siemian, Taylor, Brock Osweiler, Tannehill, Landry Jones, Joe Flacco.
So in that stretch from when Tom Brady returned from his suspension until now, he faced one team with a top QB, the Seahawks and they lost at home. All the other games were against teams with shit QBs. An elite QB like Rodgers or Ryan will absolutely carve up their defense IMO
I'll see everyone in the Mariners thread once spring training begins.
This is finally our year; I promise
This is finally our year; I promise
Naw man now we get to talk about Free Agency for the next 7 months lol.
Like 2-0-Sixx said this wasn't as big of a let down for me as the team never REALLY felt like Super Bowl contenders.
And really this team has holes basically everywhere other than QB and Kicker (that's not to say RW and Hauschka don't have a lot of room for improvement only that we aren't in need of players at that position)
My initial thoughts going into Free Agency:
1) Sign Devin Hester to a 1 year deal. He obviously still has gas in the tank and I would much rather have him back there as opposed to risking our #2 receiver
2) Its Bevell or Jimmy, but one of the 2 has to go. Bevell clearly is unwilling and/or incapable maximizing JG. At $10 mil he needs to be maximized. I want to keep Jimmy but if Bevell stays on as OC then I think we can put the $10mil to better use. If Bevell goes then JG can stay and see if our new O coordinator can make better use of him.
His overall yards for the season wasn't bad (not great either) but his targets / TDs were just not comparable to his best years in New Orleans. 140 targets and 16tds vs 95 targets and 6 tds. Again for $10mill we need to use him more or get rid of him.
3) Kelcie McCray is a serviceable backup but Steven Terrell is not. We need to find more depth at Safety.
4) Kam needs an extention, he had a great year but it's clear our backups aren't up to the task of filling in for the starters at this point.
5) I hope we make a run at Dontari Poe. The initial report out of KC is they aren't going to have enough cap space to resign him and Eric Berry, and it looks like Eric Berry is they guy they are going to keep. Tony McDaniels played well considering he wasn't even in the NFL to start the season, but our interior D line was not anything like it was in 2013. I think Poe could transition from a 3-4 to 4-3 defense and provide more interior pressure while helping to stop the run. Jarran Reed and Poe would give us two big solid run stoppers that are young and have upside.
#2 Ain't no muthafuckin lie. I've been saying the same thing to my pops for a minute. I say can Bevell, can Richard. Maybe Ol Bradley will wanna come back after his failed lil jaunt in Jax lol. I love Kam, but there's only so many fucking crushing hits a body can deal/take. I'm worried we are going to start seeing a drop in production. And, let the hate begin, I think it's time to start looking for a replacement for Sherman. Richardson, I don't have a clue how to take that cat now. Does nothing but drops balls in the regular season, than becomes a fucking superman the past 2 games. I was saying get rid of him and Kearse. Now I'm thinking keep him for one more season
Regarding #2, its not like RW CANT throw to him. So i am not blaming that all on Bevell. That dude is 6'7". Hello!
Regarding #3, we need to find better depth...pretty much across the entire 2ndary. None of those guys hold a stick to the guys in front of them. Granted, those are All Pro guys, but the drop of is like a fuckin car off the grand fuckin canyon. No excuse to not have better backups available. They need to draft better. The last 3 drafts by the Hawks, thus far, have been average at BEST.
Regarding #3, we need to find better depth...pretty much across the entire 2ndary. None of those guys hold a stick to the guys in front of them. Granted, those are All Pro guys, but the drop of is like a fuckin car off the grand fuckin canyon. No excuse to not have better backups available. They need to draft better. The last 3 drafts by the Hawks, thus far, have been average at BEST.
Graham is most definitely going to stay. He's got another year on his contract and he brings a lot to this offense.
I think a big factor in his performance, especially early in the season is he was returning from MAJOR injuries to his leg. There was legit talk that he may never be the same again. So for him to come back in the time thst he did was impressive in itself, then it's a matter of not only getting into shape but getting into football shape which takes some time. In the second half of the season Bevell and the offense started to use Graham much more as he should be used, in the red zone and you could really start to see the trust/chemistry him and Wilson have. It seemed that Wilson eventually figured out 'Ok Graham is covered but he's never really covered' throwing him balls he otherwise would have skipped over, because he knows Jimmy is going to come down with it. And on top of that Grahams blocking improved immensely compared to before, he was like a totally different guy this year when it came to doing his job blocking.
Now that the season is over, Graham is only going to be better next year as he knows he can make it through the season without getting injured again.
I really am tired of Bevell myself though. ATL is a perfect example - that first drive was awesome - a perfect balance of run and pass and Rawls you could tell was in a mode similar to the Lions game. He had 30 yards on 4 or 5 carries on that first drive. Then for whatever stupid reasons Bevell abandoned it - I believe Rawls only had 1-2 carries until the third quarter. Why? Why get away from running Rawls knowing how big of a game he just had against Detroit and how successful he was in that first drive? Makes no sense. So what we got was passing on first down, almost every time, and then the predictable line up in shotgun and run on second down, then next thing you know it's 3rd and 8 or whatever.
We have Marcel Reece and big tight ends and an offensive line that is best when run blocking, which really sets the tone for the rest of the game. So why the hell can't Bevell use more power running formations? Running from Shotgun is ok once in a while or if they are going to do a lot of read options, but they weren't doing that at all. So running from shotgun and having guys spread out is severely limiting the chances of any success, especially considering how damn predictable it is. They keep talking about wanting to run the ball and that running is their true identity, ok if that's the case then act like it. Use Power formations, utilize the best aspects of the struggling o-line. I was watching KC vs Pittsburgh and I was so damn jealous at their running games, which seems so simple but apparently for Bevell it's too much to ask for.
The problem is Carroll is incredibly loyal to use coaches so unless Bevell gets offered a job elsewhere he's going to stay. It's funny - Gus Bradley, Dan Quinn get jobs right away and now even fucking Tom Cable is getting interviews, meanwhile Bevell is waiting next to the phone waiting for a call that never comes since no one wants him! Mayne Carroll knows something most of us don't know, idk but I cannot see it.
We need more versatile guys that can play CB and Safety. Shead is out for 8 months. That's a massive loss since he was great this year considering playimg opposite of Sherman is incredibly tough with all the targets going that way but he didn't give up much this season and was solid. I felt like next year he was only going to be better but obviously this is a huge setback.
They are going to have to replace Shead and Lane is not the giy I want at CB, frankly Lane sucks on the outside.
They are going to have to draft a couple CBs at least, ideally guys who can play safety, and bring in a better or two to compete. We cannot afford to have another Carey Williams back there this season.
1. Offensive line.
2. Secondary (CB/safety).
3. Defensive line.
4. RBs.
These are their needs imo in order from most important.
I think they need go draft a RB or two since while Rawls and Prosise are talented as hell both have been plagued with injuries so we need a back up plan, possibly even a long term replacement for Rawls. I love Rawls but I have a lot of concerns on how long he can last and how many full seasons can he stay healthy if at all. Prosise seems like more of a change of pace guy, a 3rd down back or just a 1-2 punch I'm combination with Rawls. I don't think he's capable of being a ground and pound for of running back like Rawls and Lynch.
I think a big factor in his performance, especially early in the season is he was returning from MAJOR injuries to his leg. There was legit talk that he may never be the same again. So for him to come back in the time thst he did was impressive in itself, then it's a matter of not only getting into shape but getting into football shape which takes some time. In the second half of the season Bevell and the offense started to use Graham much more as he should be used, in the red zone and you could really start to see the trust/chemistry him and Wilson have. It seemed that Wilson eventually figured out 'Ok Graham is covered but he's never really covered' throwing him balls he otherwise would have skipped over, because he knows Jimmy is going to come down with it. And on top of that Grahams blocking improved immensely compared to before, he was like a totally different guy this year when it came to doing his job blocking.
Now that the season is over, Graham is only going to be better next year as he knows he can make it through the season without getting injured again.
I really am tired of Bevell myself though. ATL is a perfect example - that first drive was awesome - a perfect balance of run and pass and Rawls you could tell was in a mode similar to the Lions game. He had 30 yards on 4 or 5 carries on that first drive. Then for whatever stupid reasons Bevell abandoned it - I believe Rawls only had 1-2 carries until the third quarter. Why? Why get away from running Rawls knowing how big of a game he just had against Detroit and how successful he was in that first drive? Makes no sense. So what we got was passing on first down, almost every time, and then the predictable line up in shotgun and run on second down, then next thing you know it's 3rd and 8 or whatever.
We have Marcel Reece and big tight ends and an offensive line that is best when run blocking, which really sets the tone for the rest of the game. So why the hell can't Bevell use more power running formations? Running from Shotgun is ok once in a while or if they are going to do a lot of read options, but they weren't doing that at all. So running from shotgun and having guys spread out is severely limiting the chances of any success, especially considering how damn predictable it is. They keep talking about wanting to run the ball and that running is their true identity, ok if that's the case then act like it. Use Power formations, utilize the best aspects of the struggling o-line. I was watching KC vs Pittsburgh and I was so damn jealous at their running games, which seems so simple but apparently for Bevell it's too much to ask for.
The problem is Carroll is incredibly loyal to use coaches so unless Bevell gets offered a job elsewhere he's going to stay. It's funny - Gus Bradley, Dan Quinn get jobs right away and now even fucking Tom Cable is getting interviews, meanwhile Bevell is waiting next to the phone waiting for a call that never comes since no one wants him! Mayne Carroll knows something most of us don't know, idk but I cannot see it.
We need more versatile guys that can play CB and Safety. Shead is out for 8 months. That's a massive loss since he was great this year considering playimg opposite of Sherman is incredibly tough with all the targets going that way but he didn't give up much this season and was solid. I felt like next year he was only going to be better but obviously this is a huge setback.
They are going to have to replace Shead and Lane is not the giy I want at CB, frankly Lane sucks on the outside.
They are going to have to draft a couple CBs at least, ideally guys who can play safety, and bring in a better or two to compete. We cannot afford to have another Carey Williams back there this season.
1. Offensive line.
2. Secondary (CB/safety).
3. Defensive line.
4. RBs.
These are their needs imo in order from most important.
I think they need go draft a RB or two since while Rawls and Prosise are talented as hell both have been plagued with injuries so we need a back up plan, possibly even a long term replacement for Rawls. I love Rawls but I have a lot of concerns on how long he can last and how many full seasons can he stay healthy if at all. Prosise seems like more of a change of pace guy, a 3rd down back or just a 1-2 punch I'm combination with Rawls. I don't think he's capable of being a ground and pound for of running back like Rawls and Lynch.
Yesterday, Caroll said at his presser that fans who want Bevell gone "dont kow what they are talking about..he has been great and if people cant see that, then i dont know what to say [sic]". Field Gulls on Twitter then backed up Bevell for hours while people, like me, went on him. It was really strange. Maybe trusting PC too much with his loyalty?
Speaking of Marcel, if we dont bring him back than i really will question PC. He has BUILT for this offense. Can block, and catch. Him and Procise together in the back field??? AND Graham? And Baldwin????? Fuck me.
I disagree somewhat here. We need better PURE CB and PURE S IMHO. We have too many "tweeners". And that is part of the problem. ET...is a S. Not a CB. Sherm is a CB...not a S. But the backups can play either/or? Part of the problem.
Lane sucks inside too. He was destroyed left and right this year. PC was not complimentary at all of him at his presser. He will be let go, book it.
And they need to look no futher than UW CB Kevin King. He is a Sherman clone. Tall, lanky, ball skills and can tackle in open space. He is the kind of player PC wants...so hopefully they see him and try him out. I mean Jesus...look at this!
I think RBs are way down (and would replace with LB's). However, PC expressed his concern with Prosise's health: he had 4...yes, 4...separate injures this year. Thats not good for a 22 year old. However, Rawls, Collins, Prosises, McKissic makes 4 VERY young guys. I am OK with that group, but there are some intriguing kids coming out this year that fit what Hawks like...namesly Jeremy McNicohols from BSU and Joe Williams from Utah. Both will be late round guys, and may even be UDFA's. RBis kinda deep this year with lots of good to really good guys on the board, and is farily top heavy with McCaffery, Cook (i can dream), Fournette, and possibly Mixon (although i expect him to drop due to his off the field issues). Foreman is ranked way too low, but he is another guy who ran all over people this year even though UT sucked balls.
Again, we have Collins who improved drastically over the season. He looked great the last 6 games.
Speaking of Marcel, if we dont bring him back than i really will question PC. He has BUILT for this offense. Can block, and catch. Him and Procise together in the back field??? AND Graham? And Baldwin????? Fuck me.
I disagree somewhat here. We need better PURE CB and PURE S IMHO. We have too many "tweeners". And that is part of the problem. ET...is a S. Not a CB. Sherm is a CB...not a S. But the backups can play either/or? Part of the problem.
Lane sucks inside too. He was destroyed left and right this year. PC was not complimentary at all of him at his presser. He will be let go, book it.
And they need to look no futher than UW CB Kevin King. He is a Sherman clone. Tall, lanky, ball skills and can tackle in open space. He is the kind of player PC wants...so hopefully they see him and try him out. I mean Jesus...look at this!
I think RBs are way down (and would replace with LB's). However, PC expressed his concern with Prosise's health: he had 4...yes, 4...separate injures this year. Thats not good for a 22 year old. However, Rawls, Collins, Prosises, McKissic makes 4 VERY young guys. I am OK with that group, but there are some intriguing kids coming out this year that fit what Hawks like...namesly Jeremy McNicohols from BSU and Joe Williams from Utah. Both will be late round guys, and may even be UDFA's. RBis kinda deep this year with lots of good to really good guys on the board, and is farily top heavy with McCaffery, Cook (i can dream), Fournette, and possibly Mixon (although i expect him to drop due to his off the field issues). Foreman is ranked way too low, but he is another guy who ran all over people this year even though UT sucked balls.
Again, we have Collins who improved drastically over the season. He looked great the last 6 games.
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I'm not sold on Collins either. He did look better this season but he's not a #1 guy. He's not going to carry the offensive load should Rawls go down again.
But I feel good about next season. I find it really strange how depressed fans are about the Atlanta loss. On the radio and on forums, everyone seems so upset. But I'm thinking to myself - did this season EVER feel like a Superbowl season? No way. The Patriots game was the only time it felt like it was possible but it was very short lived. Way too many problems obviously the o-line was a massive problem but equally important were all the injuries - losing Earl was huge, then Lockett, and throughout the year Rawls was out, Wilson playing hurt most all of the season, Kam and Bennett missing multiple games, Prosise and so on. It was never going to happen and it was pretty damn apparent after their losses to Tampa, Green Bay, Saints and AZ this wasn't going to be a Superbowl year. There just wasn't any consistency due to all the injuries and they had virtually no running game.
Still despite all that they won their division, they won a playoff game and got to the divisional round. Five years in a row they've made the playoffs and five years in a row they've won a playoff game. Add in two Superbowl appearances and one SB win, that is the very definition of success in the NFL. If they didn't make the playoffs or of they lost in the first round to Detroit then that would be reason to be upset and reason to be concerned. Instead we have all of our core guys locked in contract, we have a couple of issues that can be fixed (beef up o-line, get a starting CB) as opposed to having a multitude of problems in a number of positions like most other teams in the NFL. The team is young yet full of vets/leaders, full of talent in all positions and in a great position to make a run at the SB next year. I guess when a team goes to a couple Superbowls anything less is a disappointment for Some people.
But I feel good about next season. I find it really strange how depressed fans are about the Atlanta loss. On the radio and on forums, everyone seems so upset. But I'm thinking to myself - did this season EVER feel like a Superbowl season? No way. The Patriots game was the only time it felt like it was possible but it was very short lived. Way too many problems obviously the o-line was a massive problem but equally important were all the injuries - losing Earl was huge, then Lockett, and throughout the year Rawls was out, Wilson playing hurt most all of the season, Kam and Bennett missing multiple games, Prosise and so on. It was never going to happen and it was pretty damn apparent after their losses to Tampa, Green Bay, Saints and AZ this wasn't going to be a Superbowl year. There just wasn't any consistency due to all the injuries and they had virtually no running game.
Still despite all that they won their division, they won a playoff game and got to the divisional round. Five years in a row they've made the playoffs and five years in a row they've won a playoff game. Add in two Superbowl appearances and one SB win, that is the very definition of success in the NFL. If they didn't make the playoffs or of they lost in the first round to Detroit then that would be reason to be upset and reason to be concerned. Instead we have all of our core guys locked in contract, we have a couple of issues that can be fixed (beef up o-line, get a starting CB) as opposed to having a multitude of problems in a number of positions like most other teams in the NFL. The team is young yet full of vets/leaders, full of talent in all positions and in a great position to make a run at the SB next year. I guess when a team goes to a couple Superbowls anything less is a disappointment for Some people.