Westworld [HBO, Fall 2016]
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From the article linked in that article:
I wonder if that's in today's money or future money with inflation. Regardless, they mentioned numerous times the guests are rich so needless to say this theme park is for the elite of society.
Exactly the way I've been thinking of the show.
That's dope. Other than it only being affordable for the wealthy, this is the type of future I'd love to experience.
Back to the original article linked above, about how Westworld is a terrible video game, I disagree! The author mentions how no one in Westworld shown so far is Role Playing and are essentially assholes, well that depends on who you play with, just like any multiplayer game. If you hop on a random GTA5 lobby, there are going to be a lot of dickheads running around being dicks. But if you hop on with a group of friends, your experience will be a lot different. And that's true for any online game or larping (lol), who you play with and what your goals are will vary greatly - if you play with people who want to role play, you can do that. Same is true with Westworld - you want to role play a Cowboy bounty hunter? Go for it. You want to hang out at the tavern the whole time banging Android hookers? That's you're choice! You make Westworld what you want it to be. We are three episodes in amd we've only seen a very small number of guests, so it's entirely possible we will see more "white hat" guests, more hero's and whatever else the author ie saying (gender inequality lol c'mon).
And right, everything is scripted as far as hosts and the quests, that's true for all games. Same thing really. I did like this part:
In Westworld, rich guests have the opportunity to pay around $40,000 a day to visit a Western theme park full of lifelike androids, and treat them however they please.
I wonder if that's in today's money or future money with inflation. Regardless, they mentioned numerous times the guests are rich so needless to say this theme park is for the elite of society.
The theme park is essentially an open-world video game. The androids are non-player characters.
Exactly the way I've been thinking of the show.
Nolan says, "We’re no more sadistic than watching our friends playing Grand Theft Auto." He says his wife Joy is the only person he’s seen drive a car in GTA by following the in-game traffic signals. Everybody else just mows down pedestrians.
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Nolan says he and Joy conceived Westworld’s purposefully ambiguous near-future as a place where VR is for the masses. Only the truly wealthy can indulge their fantasies with genuine sensory responses. "With Westworld," Nolan says, "we’re looking for the next moment" beyond video games, beyond VR. In the scripted words of the park’s marketing team, Nolan’s pitch to prospective attendees is, "Forget VR. Come here because it’s real."
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Nolan says he and Joy conceived Westworld’s purposefully ambiguous near-future as a place where VR is for the masses. Only the truly wealthy can indulge their fantasies with genuine sensory responses. "With Westworld," Nolan says, "we’re looking for the next moment" beyond video games, beyond VR. In the scripted words of the park’s marketing team, Nolan’s pitch to prospective attendees is, "Forget VR. Come here because it’s real."
That's dope. Other than it only being affordable for the wealthy, this is the type of future I'd love to experience.
Back to the original article linked above, about how Westworld is a terrible video game, I disagree! The author mentions how no one in Westworld shown so far is Role Playing and are essentially assholes, well that depends on who you play with, just like any multiplayer game. If you hop on a random GTA5 lobby, there are going to be a lot of dickheads running around being dicks. But if you hop on with a group of friends, your experience will be a lot different. And that's true for any online game or larping (lol), who you play with and what your goals are will vary greatly - if you play with people who want to role play, you can do that. Same is true with Westworld - you want to role play a Cowboy bounty hunter? Go for it. You want to hang out at the tavern the whole time banging Android hookers? That's you're choice! You make Westworld what you want it to be. We are three episodes in amd we've only seen a very small number of guests, so it's entirely possible we will see more "white hat" guests, more hero's and whatever else the author ie saying (gender inequality lol c'mon).
And right, everything is scripted as far as hosts and the quests, that's true for all games. Same thing really. I did like this part:
One of the big questions in Westworld is what's beneath the surface-level theme park. There are hints of a deeper game-within-a-game, and on a larger scale, Westworld's founder is clearly more interested in creating new life than catering to the whims of guests.
So it's entirely possible — even plausible — that Westworld is an intentionally dull, ill-designed place that self-selects for rich sociopaths with low standards. Hosts act out scenes that nobody cares about in order to nudge them toward consciousness
So it's entirely possible — even plausible — that Westworld is an intentionally dull, ill-designed place that self-selects for rich sociopaths with low standards. Hosts act out scenes that nobody cares about in order to nudge them toward consciousness
That's interesting. Somewhat answers what Mr. Nigeguy and myself were talking about:
How do guns work in Westworld
It seems the hosts shoot pellet-like paintballs that make gunfights seem real.
How do guns work in Westworld
It seems the hosts shoot pellet-like paintballs that make gunfights seem real.
Found this online. Pretty cool explains all the clean up and resetting.
I pretty much scrapped all my previous assumptions now that the story is becoming more clear. There really is a "game" hidden inside created by Arnold. The man in black really just is a guest trying to discover this game/truth. Anthony Hopkins has some crazy masterplan. I still suspect Bernard is an Android.
Delores flashbacks were pretty crazy. She remembers her old storyline and there is a scene where she finds her own grave:
http://i.imgur.com/iymIZF5.jpg
And more:
Underground Church / Steeple / Dolores's Flashback - Album on Imgur
The Man in Blacks pistol is awesome, the LeMat 1861. It holds 9 rounds of pistol ammo and 1 round of shotgun ammo in the center.
So that's really cool. So it seems there are better weapons you can buy/upgrade when you go to the park (thus that one guest Logan upgrading his from a dead Android, and he literally said "upgrade"after he picked up the gun, this is literally a RPG game!). But there is some more, the "gold package", "arsenal of hosts and tools to help you…". I think we can assume the Man in Black has bought this package, thus his awesome gun, exploding cigars and whatever else he might have at his disposal.
This also explains why the Man in Black wasn't phased at all when he was shot but William was and got a welt on his chest. Man in Black is end-level; he's a 30+ year player fully upgraded, has the best gun, explosives and likely the best armor which explains why some pissant low level can't harm him, whereas William is a new player low level first time player and got shot and it hurt him. Man in Black is near end game, he's after the final boss Wyatt who is OP as fuck, which is why Teddy couldn't even phase Wyatt's crew point blank range.
It also seems the park pretty much sees everything, and knows everything that is going on from the smallest details. "Permission to use 2 pyrotechnic explosions", right? That happened super fast, so they knew exactly what the Man in Black was doing and aided him by exploding the cigars. Also later when they ceased gun fire from the bandits so they can clean up real quick before a guest came or whatever. The Man in Black is obviously some super VIP and perhaps the maze he's looking for, the game within a game, is known that he's playing or maybe only Anthony Hopkins, OR he IS the board representative that Anthony Hopkins referenced at the end when he said one is already there.
So that's really cool. So it seems there are better weapons you can buy/upgrade when you go to the park (thus that one guest Logan upgrading his from a dead Android, and he literally said "upgrade"after he picked up the gun, this is literally a RPG game!). But there is some more, the "gold package", "arsenal of hosts and tools to help you…". I think we can assume the Man in Black has bought this package, thus his awesome gun, exploding cigars and whatever else he might have at his disposal.
This also explains why the Man in Black wasn't phased at all when he was shot but William was and got a welt on his chest. Man in Black is end-level; he's a 30+ year player fully upgraded, has the best gun, explosives and likely the best armor which explains why some pissant low level can't harm him, whereas William is a new player low level first time player and got shot and it hurt him. Man in Black is near end game, he's after the final boss Wyatt who is OP as fuck, which is why Teddy couldn't even phase Wyatt's crew point blank range.
It also seems the park pretty much sees everything, and knows everything that is going on from the smallest details. "Permission to use 2 pyrotechnic explosions", right? That happened super fast, so they knew exactly what the Man in Black was doing and aided him by exploding the cigars. Also later when they ceased gun fire from the bandits so they can clean up real quick before a guest came or whatever. The Man in Black is obviously some super VIP and perhaps the maze he's looking for, the game within a game, is known that he's playing or maybe only Anthony Hopkins, OR he IS the board representative that Anthony Hopkins referenced at the end when he said one is already there.
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Whatever is happening it's definitely seeming to be orchestrated by Hopkins. It's way too much of a coincidence that when the MIB starts getting close to going towards Wyatt, Hopkins gives Teddy a backstory that ties to Wyatt.
One thing I found interesting is both Bernard/Dolores gave the same answer about not feeling the pain of their lost family members. That the pain is all they have of them. I'm leaning more towards him being a droid as well.
One thing I found interesting is both Bernard/Dolores gave the same answer about not feeling the pain of their lost family members. That the pain is all they have of them. I'm leaning more towards him being a droid as well.
What was kinda interesting about that is it seemed like Hopkins just created Wyatt and his story, and because of that gave back stories to Teddy and later we find out the Tattood lady. So if he just created Wyatt and that story, how does the Man in Black know about him already? Maybe Wyatt was an old character that was removed and now he's being brought back with a new storyline, idk.
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He didn't know about Wyatt I don't think. His path lead him to find "where the snakes lay eggs" and he ended up finding the snake lady. When she told her story of her town getting burned fucked up when she was young after MIB broke her boy out of prison.
Was Wyatt mentioned by him before that point? Wyatt could just be the next piece in the maze.
Was Wyatt mentioned by him before that point? Wyatt could just be the next piece in the maze.
I had only heard of the original movie. Didnt know there was a sequel called "FutureWorld" nor the tv mini-series "Beyond Westworld"
Per that IMDB link, no one or robot has been sent to the mainland to destroy or infiltrate society. Theres always Season 3 I guess.
Per that IMDB link, no one or robot has been sent to the mainland to destroy or infiltrate society. Theres always Season 3 I guess.
I don't think that series has anything to do with this story. Plus, this is recreated by Jonathan Nolan who wrote Memento for Christopher Nolan, and you definitely see a bit of Momento in this with the flashbacks and a major theme being memory. The Beyond Westworld only had five episodes produced and just three aired when it was cancelled. There were two movies, the second one was Future World and apparently went a different direction from the first movie with not a lot in common. Thr HBO series is loosely based on the original movie.
I don't think that's really the case here. While yes it's loosely based on the 1970s movie, the HBO show is incredibly unique and there's nothing else on TV right now like it. Warner Bros has been trying to make this a show again since the 90s and they finally succeeded only because of the massive names as producers, JJ Abrams and Nolan, without those names no one would want to take a chance on something as different as this.
I think the idea of Westworld is really cool and no reason why the universe cannot continue, especially now more than ever with the popularity of RPGs and virtual reality starting to hit the market. I bet this seemed too far fetched in the 70s but now it seems like a real possibility not that far away.
I think the idea of Westworld is really cool and no reason why the universe cannot continue, especially now more than ever with the popularity of RPGs and virtual reality starting to hit the market. I bet this seemed too far fetched in the 70s but now it seems like a real possibility not that far away.
I'd like to know what kind of world this is set in. If there is the technology for these androids, wouldn't it make a lot more sense and money to use them for military, factories, sex slaves etc., than to use them in a Wild West Park? There must be something else going on, that this technology is only used in this park.