Westworld [HBO, Fall 2016]
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There's a few reasons I don't think he's a droid anymore. The scene you were talking about earlier, but more importantly in that same scene when he asked about the maze he was told "the maze isn't for you", which seemed to me like there's no reason a human should be there.
Also I have a feeling that the "these violent delights have violent ends" is some kind of code that fucks them up. When the woman programmer put Dolores to sleep when she was hovering over Teddy she used a phrase and it put her down. So far everyone that's heard/said that phrase has acted different after hearing it.
Also I have a feeling that the "these violent delights have violent ends" is some kind of code that fucks them up. When the woman programmer put Dolores to sleep when she was hovering over Teddy she used a phrase and it put her down. So far everyone that's heard/said that phrase has acted different after hearing it.
I somewhat agree, but I think they made it a point to have multiple guests complain about the price or at least say something like "for this amount of money.." Based on how they talk about what guests it seems they can do as they please. What's the difference between scalping a droid and hitting him multiple times from point blank range with a shotgun? Still destruction that needs to be fixed and I feel like that's worked into the ridiculous cost of the experience.
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So if you are a human guest in Westworld shooting up and raping everything in sight - how would you be able to distinguish the other humans in Westworld from the droids?
Wouldn't there be lots of accidental human on human violence thinking you were just shooting a droid?
Other questions;
The show seems to imply the story line continually starts over - wouldn't that get boring and aggravating for a human in the park for more than a few days?
After Eddy is shot by The Man in Black, it appears the next day he is fully operational and back on the train starting the day over again. I think the show explained that the droid's memory is wiped after every day so they start clean every day - but how is Eddy taken from the farm house all the way back to the train station and patched up? Is there an army of employees that pick up all the dead droids and fix them and put them back to their starting locations every night? If so wouldn't that be obvious to the human guests?
Wouldn't there be lots of accidental human on human violence thinking you were just shooting a droid?
Other questions;
The show seems to imply the story line continually starts over - wouldn't that get boring and aggravating for a human in the park for more than a few days?
After Eddy is shot by The Man in Black, it appears the next day he is fully operational and back on the train starting the day over again. I think the show explained that the droid's memory is wiped after every day so they start clean every day - but how is Eddy taken from the farm house all the way back to the train station and patched up? Is there an army of employees that pick up all the dead droids and fix them and put them back to their starting locations every night? If so wouldn't that be obvious to the human guests?
You could hit someone with a rock or a bottle, but the guns are engineered to not cause harm to human guests.
The robots can not cause harm to humans (which will change)
Yes. thats exactly what they do.
Reference the scene with the bar melee and the glitchy robot with the milk.
It was very obvious to the two humans caught in that bar melee mentioned above.
Otherwise like most theme parks, when the ride breaks down they close the attraction til its fixed and guests are distracted elsewhere.
The robots can not cause harm to humans (which will change)
Yes. thats exactly what they do.
Reference the scene with the bar melee and the glitchy robot with the milk.
It was very obvious to the two humans caught in that bar melee mentioned above.
Otherwise like most theme parks, when the ride breaks down they close the attraction til its fixed and guests are distracted elsewhere.
Well first, the place is massive and we've only seen a couple places so far. Second, all those resetting stories mean nothing to someone until they interact. Think of playing an open world game like GTA5, Witcher 3, or whatever. You can see tons of NPCs walking around and it seems like they are just filler, just random NPCs doing whatever their programmed to do. But when you interact with some, a quest is unlocked. You wouldn't know there is a quest or something to do until you interact. Same thing here. So when Delores drops her item on the road, whoever picks it up and actually interacts with her would unlock whatever story she has, otherwise you would never know she resets and does the second thing over and over.
There's presumably hundreds, maybe thousands of quests/stories for people to do, besides just getting drunk and fucking Android pussy. It's up to the guest to explore and take on quests if they want.
But yeah, going back to what you said earlier, there are something like a thousand or fourteen hundred I believe was the exact number of guests. If you look at the Westworld map on their website it looks pretty massive so presumably this 1400 is spread accross a huge amount of land with many more taverns, hotels, etc.
As for how guests know, that's a good question, same thing I thought about and something they haven't really explained. Perhaps there are safety measures, maybe the guns or bullets somehow don't work on humans or some other kind of fail safes. I would imagine just the chance of stray bullets would be extremely dangerous with that many guests around, not to mention drunk people firing their guns in any which direction. There must be something to protect the guests.
There's presumably hundreds, maybe thousands of quests/stories for people to do, besides just getting drunk and fucking Android pussy. It's up to the guest to explore and take on quests if they want.
But yeah, going back to what you said earlier, there are something like a thousand or fourteen hundred I believe was the exact number of guests. If you look at the Westworld map on their website it looks pretty massive so presumably this 1400 is spread accross a huge amount of land with many more taverns, hotels, etc.
As for how guests know, that's a good question, same thing I thought about and something they haven't really explained. Perhaps there are safety measures, maybe the guns or bullets somehow don't work on humans or some other kind of fail safes. I would imagine just the chance of stray bullets would be extremely dangerous with that many guests around, not to mention drunk people firing their guns in any which direction. There must be something to protect the guests.
Maybe he's Arnold or at least his consciousness? Idk just finished the last episode and tons of stuff happened, lots of thoughts.
I liked how that camp of Androids were stuck in a loop because none of them were programmed to chop wood lol. Males you think of how many small details can cause fuck ups like that.
Something else I was thinking about at the end where Teddy is surrounded by bad guys. He blasts them all point blank but they aren't even phased. So obviously these are some highly badass Androids, like final boss shot where they are programmed to be difficult as fuck to kill OR maybe it's a group of crazy guests. Probably not the latter but makes u wonder.
I liked how that camp of Androids were stuck in a loop because none of them were programmed to chop wood lol. Males you think of how many small details can cause fuck ups like that.
Something else I was thinking about at the end where Teddy is surrounded by bad guys. He blasts them all point blank but they aren't even phased. So obviously these are some highly badass Androids, like final boss shot where they are programmed to be difficult as fuck to kill OR maybe it's a group of crazy guests. Probably not the latter but makes u wonder.
Good ideas on those questions.
So in the event a human interacts with a Droid and unlocks the quest so to speak, you would assume that quest could last for more than 1 day, and the Droid would not reset overnight and go back to their repetitive programming?
However if no guest was interacting with the Droid, the Droid would just loop through its programming, resetting every night until it started interacting with a human at some point?
Right, exactly. I also assume some reset faster or longer than others, just as some quests you unlock can be very minor and quick while some could take many hours, perhaps even days. We seem to have received insight to this a couple of times when Guests have said something along the lines of "nah don't do this one, it's for beginners" or its too easy, I'm waiting for a more serious "quest". So that seems to imply there are weaker leveled quests and more advanced quests. So maybe you interact with a host and depending on their "level of quest" you unlock, it could be something very simple, maybe only takes a few minutes or so, to more advanced quests like hunting down a bounty which presumably could takes days tracking them down in the mountains.
But yeah, I assume that means the hosts won't reset unless they are in their loop. If they are taken out of their loop by a guest, they won't reset until they finish the quest or die.
Back to last episode, the reveal that Anthony Hopkins had a partner, Arnold, and all of his history was pretty significant to the plot. His goal of creating true consciousness, and in order to do that, have memories, pretty much explains everything. We just don't know why that suddenly matters now (someone manipulating the Androids). The Bernard Lowe character, who also had a terrible tragedy with his son dying that he's clearly not over, seems to mirror that of Arnold. Seems to hint he will go down the same path of Arnold. I read an interesting theory on Reddit about Bernard and Arnold:
Interesting. The post goes deeper if anyone wants to check it out.
The big question i have is the start Android at the end, when he banged the rock over his head. Did he do that Bec of the conflict of hurting a human, which may have been his original intention, or did he do it to damage a chip in his brain?
But yeah, I assume that means the hosts won't reset unless they are in their loop. If they are taken out of their loop by a guest, they won't reset until they finish the quest or die.
Back to last episode, the reveal that Anthony Hopkins had a partner, Arnold, and all of his history was pretty significant to the plot. His goal of creating true consciousness, and in order to do that, have memories, pretty much explains everything. We just don't know why that suddenly matters now (someone manipulating the Androids). The Bernard Lowe character, who also had a terrible tragedy with his son dying that he's clearly not over, seems to mirror that of Arnold. Seems to hint he will go down the same path of Arnold. I read an interesting theory on Reddit about Bernard and Arnold:
As Bernard leaves, Ford (Anthony Hopkins) then reminds him to not make the same mistake Arnold did and Bernard's confused response is, "Why would I do that?"
It's because Bernard is Arnold's clone.
It's because Bernard is Arnold's clone.
Interesting. The post goes deeper if anyone wants to check it out.
The big question i have is the start Android at the end, when he banged the rock over his head. Did he do that Bec of the conflict of hurting a human, which may have been his original intention, or did he do it to damage a chip in his brain?
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third episode got mad weird.
like whats up w dude that was tied to the tree w the flies on em? nigga looked dead but he wasnt?
i like how this show confuses you on who the androids are and who the newcomers are
then on top of that, your boy beats himself up after stopping dude from cutting his head off, and also, having the drop to hit the crush that chicks head w the boulder.
i was thinking the first obvious narrative to me was gonna be , one of the newcomers was gonna fall in love w the farmer dudes daughter and tell her about westworld n all the shit and then she was gonna break free somehow. but looks like (SPOILER HERE, WONT TELL YOU IF YOU AINT SEEN IT) n' shit, which might be why the episode was called 'the stray' unless it was bro w the boulder.
w that said, progammer homie gave ole girl the juice and she was able to shoot at niggas on the script. im like, is she free now? can she break through the whole program? is she gonna find a way out? like take the train out westworld?
dont wanna give too much away!
then theres the question of the weird niggas w the faces covered.
im so confused. this is a good show.
like whats up w dude that was tied to the tree w the flies on em? nigga looked dead but he wasnt?
i like how this show confuses you on who the androids are and who the newcomers are
then on top of that, your boy beats himself up after stopping dude from cutting his head off, and also, having the drop to hit the crush that chicks head w the boulder.
i was thinking the first obvious narrative to me was gonna be , one of the newcomers was gonna fall in love w the farmer dudes daughter and tell her about westworld n all the shit and then she was gonna break free somehow. but looks like (SPOILER HERE, WONT TELL YOU IF YOU AINT SEEN IT) n' shit, which might be why the episode was called 'the stray' unless it was bro w the boulder.
w that said, progammer homie gave ole girl the juice and she was able to shoot at niggas on the script. im like, is she free now? can she break through the whole program? is she gonna find a way out? like take the train out westworld?
dont wanna give too much away!
then theres the question of the weird niggas w the faces covered.
im so confused. this is a good show.
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What's real interesting about that is that the girl Teddy was with was a human and she shot some of them clean and it didn't do anything either. The only reason I'd be surprised that it was crazy guests is because wasn't the Teddy story line with Wyatt new? How would they know to be way out there?
I feel like that was some kind of setup, too coincidental that a brand new story line immediately goes awry.
This episode kind of confirmed that the lead programmer (I always forget his fucking name) is fucking with programming, specifically with Dolores and Hopkins is absolutely up to something.
I feel like that was some kind of setup, too coincidental that a brand new story line immediately goes awry.
This episode kind of confirmed that the lead programmer (I always forget his fucking name) is fucking with programming, specifically with Dolores and Hopkins is absolutely up to something.
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I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the mechanics and specifics of how this whole operation would flow, but I think your ideas are insightful.
That would be awesome if true. I checked out the link and was even more convinced by the anagram.
That would be awesome if true. I checked out the link and was even more convinced by the anagram.
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