Officers down in Dallas protests

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I gotta go to bed now butcher. Gotta get up early to catch Limbatas before the heat kicks in.

Just remember, 5 to 1.
Oh I'll remember. America will remember as well. The Police will definitely remember. Things have only gotten worse, and the vicious cycle continues on and is more difficult to solve now just as it looked like meaningful reform was not being asked for, but demanded by the public. It's not anything to laugh about or celebrate, it's tragic, it's sad, and it hurts.
 

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Obama said:
One of the great things about America is that individual citizens and groups of citizens can petition their government, can protest, can speak truth to power, and that is sometimes messy, and controversial. But because of that ability to protest and engaging free speech, America over time has gotten better. We’ve all benefited from that. The abolition movement was contentious. The effort for women to get the right to vote was contentious and messy. There were times when activists might have engaged in rhetoric that was overheated, and occasionally counter productive, but the point was to raise issues so that we as a society could grapple with them. The same was true with the civil rights movement and the union movement and the environmental movement and the anti-war movement during Vietnam. And I think what you’re seeing now is part of that long standing tradition.

What I would say is this: that whenever those of us who are concerned about fairness in the criminal justice system attack police officers, you are doing a disservice to the cause. First of all, any, any violence directed at police officers is a reprehensible crime and needs to be prosecuted. But even rhetorically, if we paint police in broad brush without recognizing that the vast majority of police officers are doing a really good job, and are trying to protect people and do so fairly and without racial bias, if the rhetoric does not recognize that, then we’re going to lose allies in the reform cause.

Now in a movement like Black Lives Matter there will always be folks who say things that are stupid or imprudent or over-generalized or harsh. And I don’t think that you can hold well-meaning activists who are doing the right thing and peacefully protesting responsible for what is uttered in a protest site.
Obama said this yesterday
 

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If BLM wants to survive it needs to weed out the violent criminal element. If they want people to stand behind them they need to stop the anti-cop rhetoric, which is coming from this same criminal element and is mostly thinly veiled anti-white racism.

I think BLM has a good chance of evolving into something more cohesive and respectable and will accomplish it's ultimate goal of meaningful police reform, at least i hope so because I want that too. It'll happen quicker once more people start to accept the obvious and factual truth that all police are not bad, and more to the point that the police are not white oppressors.

Wake the fuck up people and stop buying into the hate and anger that comes with every single new police shooting. Don't be someone who eats up the lies and false facts spewed out within those first hours. In almost every instance (unarmed, didn't do anything, hands were up etc) those were complete lies. You're buying into a false media driven narrative that is simply not true. Those irresponsible lies never seem to get corrected either because angry people hear what they want then run with it. Even after undeniable proof comes out proving it wrong; example Michael Brown's autopsy report proving his hands were NOT up, proving he was a charging aggressor yet still hearing hands-up-dont-shoot even today. The real oppression "blacks" (poor people) face is the war on drugs and the prison industrial complex imo.
 
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It happens EVERY time now. It JUST happened the other day, thank god it didn't turn into riots and more death. A man walking down the street with a revolver in Houston, approached by two officers during patrol. Ordered to drop the gun numerous times as he waved it around in the air. A witness nearby pleaded for him to drop it as well, likely his friend. He points it at the cops, just two guys getting paid barely a living wage to deal with this shit every day, fallout from non-funding of mental health systems where they've become the primary responders to meltdowns like this; and they take him down else maybe they don't go home to their families. Suicide by cop; maybe he thought there'd be riots for him too and maybe he thought his family would get $200,000 - $500,000 in gofundme money too.
But they both had body cameras and a nearby gas station surveillance camera caught the shooting as well, and witnesses backed the police up this time instead of running to the nearest newsvan and telling irresponsible lies. Or livestreaming it. Thank god, because otherwise their entire lives could've been destroyed during the ensuing media shit storm.

What did twitter have to say? I'll tell you cause I was awake and following it live after it happened

"another unarmed man killed "
" when will the police get it?"
"Another unarmed black man killed for no reason "
" #prayforhouston "
"They're killing us all its time to kill them back"
"time for war is now "
" Just kill us all and be done with it"

I know for a fact some of you saw your twitter feeds that morning and probably believed it too. It's incredibly dangerous and irresponsible and destructive and ridiculous.
 
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White America, as a whole, didn't give a fuck about BLM. Cops were in "fear" of their life before he stepped on the scene. He trained and fought against tyranny just like the second amendment protects.

5 to 1.

My only criticism of this guy is that he was stealing that chicks panties. And she is nothing special, we have females that look like her all over the bay.

A panty stealing cop killer, lol. 5 to 1.
wow really? But what color were the panties he stole? That's on some revenge of the nerds style stealing panties lol ha ah aah ahah haaaaaaaaaaaa!
 
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Alton Sterling was a convicted pedophile amongst many other things. Or did "white America" made that up too?
I don't understand this argument. They didn't know his record when they went out there, the 911 call went someone like "man selling CDs outside of convenience store pulled gun on complainant" - no name or record was ever mentioned. You wipe his entire criminal history away and make that nights scenario identical and it'd play out the same.

What did Philando Castile's record look like? Didn't seem to matter either way.
 

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I agree the deceased shouldn't be blamed. However their actions should be examined. Why did he have a gun? Why did he brandish it? Why did he resist?

Why did Philando reach for his gun? ANYONE with a CCW carry knows not to do that.

The Police aren't super humans, they're regular people that are told anyone and everyone hates them and wants to kill them and can do so within fractions of a second. This is reinforced by proof of it actually happening and by repeated violent encounters with criminals. The training needs to change and the anti-cop rhetoric needs to change as well, but proclaiming the victim OR the police guilty without facts is the same negative behavior that continues the vicious cycle and isn't going to change shit.

Facts first judgements next
 
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I agree the deceased shouldn't be blamed. However their actions should be examined. Why did he have a gun? Why did he brandish it? Why did he resist?

Why did Philando reach for his gun? ANYONE with a CCW carry knows not to do that.
Did Philando reach for his gun? Why announce to the officer that you have a weapon on you if your motive is to shot him? Wouldn't the element of surprise be better in that situation?
 

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I don't understand this argument. They didn't know his record when they went out there, the 911 call went someone like "man selling CDs outside of convenience store pulled gun on complainant" - no name or record was ever mentioned. You wipe his entire criminal history away and make that nights scenario identical and it'd play out the same.

What did Philando Castile's record look like? Didn't seem to matter either way.
Yeah but now we know. Guess it was a lucky incident afterwards. I got no remorse for pedophiles. So why throw him in the blacklivesmatter movement?
 
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Yeah but now we know. Guess it was a lucky incident afterwards. I got no remorse for pedophiles. So why throw him in the blacklivesmatter movement?
Because it's using hindsight. I have no remorse for pedophiles either, but the truth is it wouldn't have mattered if he was or he wasn't. The events of that night play out the same.
 

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Yet the guy you posted a video of spent several minutes blaming Obama for all of this, lol.

So which is it?

5 to 1.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say so I'll just go with the lowest, most dumb explanation; you're assuming I'm presenting either of those videos as opinions I agree with or information I'm trying to present to support my arguments.

You simply asked for proof of protestors celebrating the murders and those were the two videos I was able to find buried beneath hundreds of other YouTube videos out there during the past few days. The opinions presented therein were of no consequence to my post and you simply could have muted the videos if you wanted.

Read the article I posted for Stealth. That's my position.
You see, that was your unconscious leaking through. Not everyone regurgitates others opinions as their own.

Go read some more articles and study your black supremacy pamphlets and come back and try again; this "5 to 1" shit you've said about 7 times is getting old, I got it the first time. You're not going to drag me down to that level though because you'll beat me with experience. But to humor you, why not look up the data on how many police "murders" there have been compared to how many police have been killed to get yourself a more accurate "score". I'll give you this piece of information that you might find surprising since I already know the numbers; the number of whites murdered by the police recently is 3 times the number of blacks.

Thank god there's not this toxic criminal element that leaps to false conclusions and calls for murder of the police when it happens though.
 
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But to humor you, why not look up the data on how many police "murders" there have been compared to how many police have been killed to get yourself a more accurate "score". I'll give you this piece of information that you might find surprising since I already know the numbers; the number of whites murdered by the police recently is 3 times the number of blacks.

Thank god there's not this toxic criminal element that leaps to false conclusions and calls for murder of the police when it happens though.
I don't agree with your stance, but you also don't seem like a dumb guy. If you boil it down to percentages black people are 2.5 times more likely to get killed by police than white people when you break the population/people killed. There's 160M more white people in this country than black people so just using the total # is deceptive.
 

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I don't agree with your stance, but you also don't seem like a dumb guy. If you boil it down to percentages black people are 2.5 times more likely to get killed by police than white people when you break the population/people killed. There's 160M more white people in this country than black people so just using the total # is deceptive.
Why do you think that is?

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The data is quite disturbing to be honest.
 

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I'm not sure what you're trying to say so I'll just go with the lowest, most dumb explanation; you're assuming I'm presenting either of those videos as opinions I agree with or information I'm trying to present to support my arguments.
Did they get the malt liquor or not? I saw a couple of guys in t he background dancing, I don't know why they were dancing. I wanted to see a true celebration vid.

You simply asked for proof of protestors celebrating the murders and those were the two videos I was able to find buried beneath hundreds of other YouTube videos out there during the past few days. The opinions presented therein were of no consequence to my post and you simply could have muted the videos if you wanted.
See above.

You see, that was your unconscious leaking through. Not everyone regurgitates others opinions as their own.
Only my posts were on the 8th and before yet the article I posted to Stealth, which basically says the same shit, was published on the 9th, LMAO!:lick:

Go read some more articles and study your black supremacy pamphlets and come back and try again; this "5 to 1" shit you've said about 7 times is getting old, I got it the first time. You're not going to drag me down to that level though because you'll beat me with experience. But to humor you, why not look up the data on how many police "murders" there have been compared to how many police have been killed to get yourself a more accurate "score". I'll give you this piece of information that you might find surprising since I already know the numbers; the number of whites murdered by the police recently is 3 times the number of blacks.

Thank god there's not this toxic criminal element that leaps to false conclusions and calls for murder of the police when it happens though.
5 to 1.
 
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