Mayweather vs McGregor

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anybody think this shit's gonna really happen? Mayweather (and obviously McGregor) been blowing this shit up. Mayweather even uses the justification that McGregor's wins have been stand up fighting, though McGregor heavily uses kicks. Money been saying McGregor's the only fighter he'll get out of retirement for.

dumb idea. i don't see no one respecting that 50th Mayweather win. but i know he's bout the money and that shit could sell at least 3 mill, if they ppv Ireland too.

it'll only happen if UFC co-promotes, which they're notoriously against. but i think they'd be down for the right split.

even Colin Cowherd said his intell told him the fights in Vegas in September. that shit's even on the UFC on FOX youtube channel. i know the UFC big guys met with McGregor late last week, then with Nate Diaz Friday, and Dana White supposedly wasn't happy with his Nate Diaz meeting. so this Mayweather one seems to be open now.



 
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I'd give this around a 0% chance of happening as long as Conor is on a UFC contract. Everything is going to have to be how Mayweather wants it which would include the UFC basically fucking off on any promotion and control of the event.

Not to mention it's a just a dumb fight to happen. Mayweather could probably come off the street and beat the shit out of him in boxing.

Obviously the UFC loves this just like they did with the Ronda Vs. Mayweather shit they used to kick when Ronda had a fight coming up. People talking about this gets them interested in Conor's next actual fight.
 
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Absolutely zero chance of it happening. Naner covered the why not, UFC wouldn't allow a fighter under contract to fight a boxing match and if they did they would want their cut and that's not possible with Mayweather and the amount of money he would require, among other reasons.

Both guys are doing it for publicity. I heard Al Haymon is supposedly looking at signing MMA fighters soon so I'm sure there are multiple reasons for the fake rumors of a fight. It's a joke and each fighter is in on it. It's got a lot of publicity every day another story or article about it, people listen and keep talking.
 
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CZAR said:
Im hearing reports thats its about a done deal for September. Got Em!!
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And that's coming from Colin Cowherd. He's probably in on it too, he's a good troll himself. Supposedly he's saying CBS who owns showtime and Fox/UFC are all working together to make it happen. I don't buy it. I don't but all these separate entities could come together and make a fight that will pay Mayweather his $80 million or more that he requires plus whatever Conor would make, the UFC pay structure just doesn't work that way and I don't see them making an exception here which I would imagine just open doors for other fighters to want to do the same thing and get massive paydays. They were quick to shoot down Silva vs Roy Jones, Diaz vs Jeff Lacy and Evey other UFC fighter who wanted to box.
 
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^^I feel that but we are talking Mayweather/McGregor, not old ass has beens like Silva & Jones. I think this fight would bring in mega dollars. Yea Im not sure whats up but it just seems like it may happen. Time will tell. Got Em!!
 
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Like Donald Trump and presidency, I can't believe we're even talking about this bullshit...
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100% agree. Are there odds that this fight doesn't happen? I don't even bet and I'd like to put money on that fight not happening at all.

What benefit does the UFC get out of this? Conor is going to get completely embarrassed and stopped in front of everyone and although it shouldn't because it's a completely different sport, it'll discredit him in the eyes of people that think because punches get thrown in MMA that it's boxing. It makes absolutely no sense for them to agree to this and say what you want about the UFC, they're not idiots.

They've used Floyd's name before to promote fights because it's going to get articles written about it and will have people debating it.
 
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naner12 said:
What benefit does the UFC get out of this?
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money. they signed CM Punk. they signed Sage Northcutt and Paige Vanzant tryna bubble off that rush money. they let Conor win a belt then not defend it, then let him rematch Diaz without defending the belt. they're about the money, purely. they grew the sport hella from what it started out as but they're stagnant now.



naner12 said:
Conor is going to get completely embarrassed and stopped in front of everyone and although it shouldn't because it's a completely different sport, it'll discredit him in the eyes of people that think because punches get thrown in MMA that it's boxing.
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i also think it will discredit Conor with what you said. it won't discredit him as a fighter to me personally, but i'm really only (lightly) impressed with like 1 or 2 of his wins anyway, if that. Dana already told Mayweather to call him if he wants to talk about the fight. i don't doubt UFC would be down to let them fight, but then there's the fact that UFC and Mayweather will have to bump heads as to who gets paid the biggest cut. that's what i think would be the biggest obstacle. i don't think UFC thinks Conor losing will discredit him, which is why i think they would be good with letting it happen.

if they sell 3 mill, which i think it could, and they sell at $100, it would bring in 300 mill. the ppv providers portion would leave 150 mill to the promotions. Mayweather wants 100 mill and he offered Conor 50 mill. even after tv deals and advertising, it doesn't leave a whole lot to the rest of the partys. that's why i think it wont happen. Conor's gonna go up to lightweight next year and start losing so he only has this year to be worth anything like what they're pushing.
 
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money. they signed CM Punk. they signed Sage Northcutt and Paige Vanzant tryna bubble off that rush money. they let Conor win a belt then not defend it, then let him rematch Diaz without defending the belt. they're about the money, purely. they grew the sport hella from what it started out as but they're stagnant now.
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So here's the problem with this, if this fight happens it will not be promoted by the UFC. They're going to have absolutely 0 control over the promotion, venue, pretty much everything else. Floyd wouldn't concede that to Pacquiao he's going to concede to UFC/Conor? No way.

And all those people you mentioned are under their control. If they do well, they control all promotional interest in those fighters, if the fighters don't do well they control all promotional interest in the fighters that beat them as well. Conor isn't winning and they'll control nothing of Floyd's. It makes no sense. The UFC as a company can make more money milking Conor in the UFC over feeding him to get slaughtered in a ring with Floyd.
 
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naner12 said:
So here's the problem with this, if this fight happens it will not be promoted by the UFC. They're going to have absolutely 0 control over the promotion, venue, pretty much everything else. Floyd wouldn't concede that to Pacquiao he's going to concede to UFC/Conor? No way.
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if they were to fight, it would be a co-promotion. i don't see UFC giving up any rights. especially since Conor can't fight outside of his contract. i think Floyd knows that too and that's the issue. it's too big of a pissing contest. your Pac comparison pretty much sums it up.

Floyd is stubborn, nothing wrong with that in his position, but he could make more money off a co-promotion. boxing pretty much sells of their main events. MMA, especially UFC, sells off it's main card, except maybe the last few Rousey fights. if it were strictly Mayweather promotions, they would only have a boxing undercard, which wouldn't help sell it. if it were co-UFC, they could have a strong MMA undercard which would help it sell since not everybody even really likes Conor. problem with that is UFC would never use a ring, and i don't see them compromising with that.

i see the only one really holding this up is Floyd, which is weird since Floyd is pumping this. he don't need the useless fight anyway. i personally don't think it's an issue of UFC worried about Conor losing. they can make millions off McGregor with this one fight. they can't milk him for too much longer in UFC. he will lose to Diaz in a rematch and will most likely lose in his featherweight title defense against Aldo or Edgar. i see him fighting at lightweight next year and seriously losing his star power with the losses i see him eating. UFC can't milk him much longer. but i know how Floyd is with his business.
 
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From a fight perspective it makes no sense. From a business and monetary perspective it makes all the sense in the world. What do people who watch combat sports often debate? Which is better MMA or Boxing? Who will win an MMA fighter or a boxer? Well now you have a boxer that is a world wide star, is rich, is still capable of dominating boxing, hell he still dominates even though he no longer boxes versus a guy who isn't exactly a pushover in the ring but had the ability to get the superstars attention by saying the right thing and keeping his name in his mouth. It's pure gold, you absolutely can sell this fight to MMA and boxing casuals and they will eat it up. Again, this is from the business and monetary perspective and with a co-brand of MMA and Boxing on the undercard (mma fighters vs mma fighters and boxers vs boxers) you can put a lot of people in the limelight.

From a boxing perspective, it does nothing for Floyd. If he is going to come back to boxing, to me it should be against someone like Bradley, the winner of Thurman/Porter or even Broner. Not Pac, hell no not that liar, and not Khan as he doesn't need another loss right now.
 
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i see the only one really holding this up is Floyd, which is weird since Floyd is pumping this. he don't need the useless fight anyway. i personally don't think it's an issue of UFC worried about Conor losing. they can make millions off McGregor with this one fight. they can't milk him for too much longer in UFC. he will lose to Diaz in a rematch and will most likely lose in his featherweight title defense against Aldo or Edgar. i see him fighting at lightweight next year and seriously losing his star power with the losses i see him eating. UFC can't milk him much longer. but i know how Floyd is with his business.
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The UFC could simply allow Connor to fight Floyd. The UFC could have their logos, etc but promoted under Floyd since its boxing and that's what he does and that's what this would be. The UFC could get whatever cut agreed upon with Floyd. The problem is UFC would never take second fiddle to a boxing promotion, or any promotion for that matter, never. It would have to be under their promotion.

Regarding any undercard, people would be buying this fight for Floyd Mayweather and McGregor. They could throw any number of stars on the undercard and it wouldn't make a difference. Even so, Floyd would require so much money that the undercard couldn't be worth much at all since most all the money would have to go to Floyd.

There are too many reasons why this would never happen but mainly because Conor is under contract with the UFC and all that which comes with being under contract with them.
 
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Wasnt mayweather saying he wanted to get into mma promoting
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he's bout to sign Bones. not sure what thats gonna do. i think he'll promote fights eventually. one of his sons used to train and Kevin Lee and Raquel Pa' aluhi train at Mayweather Boxing and his uncle Jeff been training some nice name mma fighters for a minute. all he has to do is start signing people once their contracts expire. who wouldnt want to fight for dude? De La Hoya and Donald Trump had A1 Affliction cards so it can happen with Floyds pockets and knowledge of promoting.
 
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