thats part of Wilsons game tho, holding the ball, extended okays, Like Big Ben, Kaepernick gets hits so fast,all he can do is hold into the ball, I still believe the way our teams where built is the future of the nil, even if our franchises fucked of what they had, and got away from what made us dominate.
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Both of our teams had dominating line play, you guys with your genius rotating
d line men, us with your overpowering o line, and front 7, but we both got away from what made us good, and now you guys are beating us out, to not be in last place, its sad as a fan of the level of football both teams played when they played each other it, it was different hone these two teams played each other, head hitting, every play was epic, the 2012-2013 seattle would have murdered any of these 6-0 teams, same with the 2011-2013 niners, the salary cap needs to have something to protect teams from getting fucked in the ass for drafting good.
d line men, us with your overpowering o line, and front 7, but we both got away from what made us good, and now you guys are beating us out, to not be in last place, its sad as a fan of the level of football both teams played when they played each other it, it was different hone these two teams played each other, head hitting, every play was epic, the 2012-2013 seattle would have murdered any of these 6-0 teams, same with the 2011-2013 niners, the salary cap needs to have something to protect teams from getting fucked in the ass for drafting good.
Top performers:
LT Russell Okung (+5.5)
DE Michael Bennett (+4.0)
DE Cliff Avril (+3.5)
HB Marshawn Lynch (+2.8)
LB K.J. Wright (+2.3)
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/10/23/sea-sf-grades-avril-bennett-dangerous-off-edge/
LT Russell Okung (+5.5)
DE Michael Bennett (+4.0)
DE Cliff Avril (+3.5)
HB Marshawn Lynch (+2.8)
LB K.J. Wright (+2.3)
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/10/23/sea-sf-grades-avril-bennett-dangerous-off-edge/
Anytime you get a 17pt victory in the NFL that is something to celebrate. Without some mistakes the Hawks should have won that game 30-0.
It looks like Darrell Bevel finally started reading all the e-mails I have been sending him. It was nice to finally see a balance on the offense. The icing on the cake was the effective use of the short pass to counter pass rush. Of the 24 attempted passes 16 of them were for 9 yards or less. Finally.
Having said that the 49ers also looked liked absolute shit yesterday. By the 2nd quarter I was honestly wondering if the 49ers were trying to intentionally lose that game. ZERO rushes from Kaep?? Your running game isn't working, the passing game isn't there.....maybe try a designed run for Kaep?? I saw LOTS of opportunities for Kaep to run and pick up some yardage. He took advantage of none of them. Their OC is worse than Bevell. I get that they are trying to develop Kaep more into a pocket passer, but at what cost?
Key Takeways:
-O-line is looking better. The run blocking is coming along but the pass blocking and QB protection is still atrocious. The 49ers sacked RW 6 times last night. The 49ers had 10 sacks in their previous 6 games COMBINED.
-Russell Wilson is a very very good QB in this league. What separates him from being a Tier 1 guy (Rodgers, Brady, Manning) is his inability to read the defense pre-snap and change the protection at the line. He so far has shown almost no ability to do this. If he can learn this skill than he would be a Tier 1 guy. Right now he is Tier 2.
- Our issues with pass protection are a clear case of weaknesses aligning and exacerbating each other. The sum of Russell's lack of quick pass and ability to change protection + Darrell Bevell playing calling/design + O line pass blocking is greater than the sum of its parts.
- Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril continue to dominate. After last night Bennett is 2nd among 4-3 DEs with 7 sacks. Avril and Bennett are grading out at as the #1 and #3 4-3 DEs respectively. (Frank Clark is #10).
- The lack of rotation on our D-line is still a big weakness for us. Cassius Marsh needs to step it up. I wish we still had Kevin Williams. I love that Will Tukuafu is playing both sides of the ball, but he is not that good on the D-line.
- I have been saying this since last season. The 49ers - Seahawks isn't even a rivalry anymore. 1-6 in the last 7 meetups. That is not a rivalry.
- Jed York is an absolute bum and should be run out of town.
- Levi stadium was half empty by the 3rd quarter. And Hawks fan are bandwagon??
It looks like Darrell Bevel finally started reading all the e-mails I have been sending him. It was nice to finally see a balance on the offense. The icing on the cake was the effective use of the short pass to counter pass rush. Of the 24 attempted passes 16 of them were for 9 yards or less. Finally.
Having said that the 49ers also looked liked absolute shit yesterday. By the 2nd quarter I was honestly wondering if the 49ers were trying to intentionally lose that game. ZERO rushes from Kaep?? Your running game isn't working, the passing game isn't there.....maybe try a designed run for Kaep?? I saw LOTS of opportunities for Kaep to run and pick up some yardage. He took advantage of none of them. Their OC is worse than Bevell. I get that they are trying to develop Kaep more into a pocket passer, but at what cost?
Key Takeways:
-O-line is looking better. The run blocking is coming along but the pass blocking and QB protection is still atrocious. The 49ers sacked RW 6 times last night. The 49ers had 10 sacks in their previous 6 games COMBINED.
-Russell Wilson is a very very good QB in this league. What separates him from being a Tier 1 guy (Rodgers, Brady, Manning) is his inability to read the defense pre-snap and change the protection at the line. He so far has shown almost no ability to do this. If he can learn this skill than he would be a Tier 1 guy. Right now he is Tier 2.
- Our issues with pass protection are a clear case of weaknesses aligning and exacerbating each other. The sum of Russell's lack of quick pass and ability to change protection + Darrell Bevell playing calling/design + O line pass blocking is greater than the sum of its parts.
- Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril continue to dominate. After last night Bennett is 2nd among 4-3 DEs with 7 sacks. Avril and Bennett are grading out at as the #1 and #3 4-3 DEs respectively. (Frank Clark is #10).
- The lack of rotation on our D-line is still a big weakness for us. Cassius Marsh needs to step it up. I wish we still had Kevin Williams. I love that Will Tukuafu is playing both sides of the ball, but he is not that good on the D-line.
- I have been saying this since last season. The 49ers - Seahawks isn't even a rivalry anymore. 1-6 in the last 7 meetups. That is not a rivalry.
- Jed York is an absolute bum and should be run out of town.
- Levi stadium was half empty by the 3rd quarter. And Hawks fan are bandwagon??
Man i want to agree with you, but i cant. Wilson is a great football player/athlete, but as an actual QB he is about above average and ill tell you why. As you said, pre-snap reads are not great. And quite frankly, his post reads are hit or miss as well. Seems more times than not, he is missing the more open receiver when he goes through his progression. How do i know this? A) the commentators mention it at LEAST once a game and B) I have seen him miss on these live at the games. In fact, this last game he missed a WIDE open Kearse on the throw to Lockett...which is clearly a moot point. He did the same thing against Cincy on an in completion to, i believe, Graham. Again, Kearse was wide open on the other side of the file streaking and would have scored easily.
And last but not least? He is simply off target..alot. He is not that great of a precision passer. Yes, he gets it i the area but there are always a bit "off".
Quite honestly if it wasnt for his decision making and scrambling abilities, he would probably not be a starter in the league.
Am i glad he leads this team? Absolutely. Dont make that mistake. But a great QB he is not.
And last but not least? He is simply off target..alot. He is not that great of a precision passer. Yes, he gets it i the area but there are always a bit "off".
Quite honestly if it wasnt for his decision making and scrambling abilities, he would probably not be a starter in the league.
Am i glad he leads this team? Absolutely. Dont make that mistake. But a great QB he is not.
The pass blocking is still a major fucking problem but despite the sacks and pass rushes there was some improvements, just not consistent. Like Britt actually graded with a + rating (first time this year??). Its going to be a real test against the Cowgirls D line next week and AZ after the bye week. It's not going to be easy but if they can win the next two games (the AZ game I'd at home) I think they'll be OK and can afford to lose to either the Steelers (although that is a home game and can definitely win) or a game to AZ or Rams and make the playoffs. 5 losses is safe, any more and obviously it's cutting it too close.
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lol man I FUCKED YOUR MOM, you're such a half glass empty kind of guy and negative Nancy! Wilson is awesome and what he does in the NFL has been amazing. It's unfair to blame him for the offensive shortcomings this year when the offensive line is as bad as it is. Its fucking terrible. There are very few QBs in this league, if any, that would be successful under the same circumstances (o-line and Bevel). Watching Wilson play, it's obvious to me he is one of the best in the league. Like Mr. Nice Guy said, he's not quite on that first tier of the Rodgers and Brady's of the world, but there's only a few of the ultra elite QB anyways, and honestly he's not that far behind and he doesn't need to be. He will continue to improve as well. How can you expect a QB to make every single play and every single read when he's been under pressure, heavy pressure, nearly every passing play? It will fuck with ANY QB. So of course he's going to have happy feet during the rare time when he isn't under pressure or he ends up missing a read or an open receiver. What QB in the NFL could understand this kind of constant pressure??
This entire team has been off all year, and it all for the most part boils down to the o-line. The defense would never have been put in the situations of blowing a game if not for the offensive line, who until yesterday couldn't even run block good enough to gain one first down late in numerous games. That's all it would have took to get Ws instead of Ls.
This entire team has been off all year, and it all for the most part boils down to the o-line. The defense would never have been put in the situations of blowing a game if not for the offensive line, who until yesterday couldn't even run block good enough to gain one first down late in numerous games. That's all it would have took to get Ws instead of Ls.
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If that translates to keeping it real, then ill take it
I never said he was or didnt. I simply said he is an above average QB.
Its not just this year. Its been all 3.4 years he has been here.
I clearly stated this.
Yes, he is one of the best FOOTBALL PLAYERS. However, he is an above average QB. They are not mutually inclusive.
No where did i state he wouldnt.
It has been noted, by Mr. Nice Guy in fact, that Wilson holds on to the ball longer than any other QB in the entire NFL. So take that FWIW.
Im sure there are plenty, as that is their job.
I sorta agree with this, but the excuse of "the defense was on the field to long" is silly and asinine. If the defense did its job, they wouldn't be on the field longer than needed. The defense gave up those points in the 4th QTRS, not the offense...regardless of how conservative the O was. The defenses job is to get OFF the field, correct? That wasnt happening until last night.
I never said he was or didnt. I simply said he is an above average QB.
Its not just this year. Its been all 3.4 years he has been here.
I clearly stated this.
Yes, he is one of the best FOOTBALL PLAYERS. However, he is an above average QB. They are not mutually inclusive.
No where did i state he wouldnt.
It has been noted, by Mr. Nice Guy in fact, that Wilson holds on to the ball longer than any other QB in the entire NFL. So take that FWIW.
Im sure there are plenty, as that is their job.
I sorta agree with this, but the excuse of "the defense was on the field to long" is silly and asinine. If the defense did its job, they wouldn't be on the field longer than needed. The defense gave up those points in the 4th QTRS, not the offense...regardless of how conservative the O was. The defenses job is to get OFF the field, correct? That wasnt happening until last night.
It wasn't necessary to quote every statement, some of my response was just general talking not necessarily specifically aimed at you.
Glass half empty isn't keeping it real, it's just a way of looking at things (when it comes to sports you always see the negative even when they won the super bowl you weren't a believer until probably the 4th quarter of the final game! But I can't fault you, good things rarely happen to Seattle sports teams, it's been a long history of FUCK!!!).
Regarding the defense, I'm certainly not giving them a pass and like I said they haven't been themselves this year. But if the offense punts 8 possessions in a row, with 5 three and outs, hell yeah that's on the offense too. I don't care how good a defense is, chances are you give a team that many chances without even taking time off the clock their going to score eventually. They go hand in hand and when one side is struggling the other has to pick up the slack.
Glass half empty isn't keeping it real, it's just a way of looking at things (when it comes to sports you always see the negative even when they won the super bowl you weren't a believer until probably the 4th quarter of the final game! But I can't fault you, good things rarely happen to Seattle sports teams, it's been a long history of FUCK!!!).
Regarding the defense, I'm certainly not giving them a pass and like I said they haven't been themselves this year. But if the offense punts 8 possessions in a row, with 5 three and outs, hell yeah that's on the offense too. I don't care how good a defense is, chances are you give a team that many chances without even taking time off the clock their going to score eventually. They go hand in hand and when one side is struggling the other has to pick up the slack.
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