Mayweather vs Pacquiao May 2nd [official]

[2-0-Sixx]

You conviently left out the fact the Cotto Manny fight was at 145.

I didn't leave it out at all, check the last paragraph. I stated one pound didn't drain Cotto (his previous fights he weighed 146). Just like one pound didn't drain Canelo against Floyd.

Still ur not gonna tell me Mannys camp didnt see a wounded animal so thats indeed why Manny fought Cotto when he did. Roach also admitted he didnt want anything to do with Mosley so theres nothing that u can hide there.

Cotto just beat Jennings and Clottey and was a title holder when Pacquiao fought him. Again, Pacquiao moved up in weight. Absolutely legit win for Pacquiao and was a fantastic performance on his part. Why anyone would try to downplay this victory is beyond me. There was no proof Pacquiao would be a legit welterweight being that his only fight there prior was against a shot Oscar in which Manny only weighed 142. Pacquiao was fighting at 135 pounds like a year or so before, so for him to fight a legit welterweight in Cotto was a big deal.

As for Mosley, Roach says a lot of shit and he doesn't make the fights. He also said he wanted nothing to so with Marquez 3 and 4 but the fights happened nonetheless. Cotto vs Pacquiao was in house, both Top Rank at the time and we all know Bob Arum will always prefer in house fights versus splitting the pot with another promoter. Pacquiao vs Cotto made the most sense and it's not even debatable that Cotto is more popular and outsells Mosley any day of the week.

 

[T-Rip]

Your still leaving out the part where Roach is a grade A scumbag. Manny fought all his opponents at 147 at specific times for a reason. Cotto got pretty bloodied up in that Clottey fight for one thing. They saw he wasnt the same fighter he was before the Margarito fight or even during that fight. He fought well until the loaded gloves took to much of a toll on him

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Your still leaving out the part where Roach is a grade A scumbag. Manny fought all his opponents at 147 at specific times for a reason

I'm not talking about Roach, I'm talking specifically about Pacquiao vs Cotto. It was you that made the outrageous claim Pacquiao was scared of Cotto in 2006 and 2007, which literally makes zero sense being that Pacquiao was fighting at Featherweight and Super Featherweight! That's a 126 pounds man. He was fighting Morales and Barrera in 2006 and 2007 lol so how the hell would he be scared, or even thinking about Cotto then? Nobody was man, no one could have possibly imagined he'd fight at welterweight.

As far as the Cotto fight, it was legit. Cotto was a title holder and Pacquiao moved up in weight. Pacquiao had no obligation to fight at 147, he could have stuck at 140 or even 135 if he really wanted to. Campaigning at welterweight was really pushing the envelope.

 

[T-Rip]

Yeah i thought it might have been possible for Manny to fight Cotto at 140 when Cotto was most dangerous but didnt realize that Manny was that far down in weight.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Cotto got pretty bloodied up in that Clottey fight for one thing. They saw he wasnt the same fighter he was before the Margarito fight or even during that fight. He fought well until the loaded gloves took to much of a toll on him

You're acting like Pacquiao fought Cotto immediately after he lost to Margarito or something. Cotto had plenty of time, beating Jennings and Clottey. The Clottey fight was close sure, and Pacquiao ended up fighting Clottey right after Cotto, so he took care of both of them within 6 months time. Not sure what else Pacquiao is supposed to do here. Again, the only really pointless fight he had was Shane Mosley, total BS by that point. But fighting Cotto and Clottey back to back was certainly legit, fighting Bradley and JMM legit. Hell, even the Margarito fight was decent given the 20 pound weight advantage and height (but that wasn't at welterweight and not part of his welterweight resume since it was at 150).

 

[T-Rip]

still the catchweights.........

Nevermind that he moved up in weight awfully fast. Something definitely doesnt seem right. Anyways is there any truth to the cocaine allegations this movie biopic of him shows?



Heres the full movie to show what the media hides lol for those who havent seen it

 

[2-0-Sixx]

this discussion went downhill fast. lol @ posting a terrible low budget non authorized Filipino movie as some sort of relevance to anything

 

[T-Rip]

Of course its nonauthorized, like Manny would approve of it. It just shows how the American media portrays Mayweather as the bad guy but Manny is no saint himself. Whats there left to talk about lol. Obviously Manny didnt fight Hatton till after Mayweather fought him. Then theres the fact Manny didnt fight Marquez till 2 in a half years after there 2nd fight which was obviously a controversal decision yet his fans said he was the Mexican conquerer. Then theres the fact he didnt rematch Morales right away instead fights some bum allowing Morales to age that much more. Fought Clottey coming off a loss. Fought Margarito after he got ko'd by Mosley. Handpicked as it gets

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Of course its nonauthorized, like Manny would approve of it. It just shows how the American media portrays Mayweather as the bad guy but Manny is no saint himself. Whats there left to talk about lol. Obviously Manny didnt fight Hatton till after Mayweather fought him. Then theres the fact Manny didnt fight Marquez till 2 in a half years after there 2nd fight which was obviously a controversal decision yet his fans said he was the Mexican conquerer. Then theres the fact he didnt rematch Morales right away instead fights some bum allowing Morales to age that much more. Fought Clottey coming off a loss. Fought Margarito after he got ko'd by Mosley. Handpicked as it gets

Man, you have none of your facts straight at all.

Pacquiao vs Morales II - BOTH fighters wanted a tune up fight before the rematch, Top Rank wanted to have this to build the rematch. They already agreed to fight a rematch after their tune ups. Problem was Morales lost his to Raheem. They were already obligated to fight each other though so it didn't matter (kind of like how Mayweather agreed to fight Zab Judah before he fought Baldomir, Zab lost but Floyd still fought Zab because they already agreed to fight). Plus why wouldn't Pacquiao want to avenge his loss?

The rematches with Marquez were on Marquez. After the first fight, which was incorrectly ruled a draw (one of the judges accidentally scored round 1 a 10-7 instead of a 10-6 (three knockdowns)), Pacquiao offered Marquez an immediate rematch, JMM turned it down and decided to fight Chris John in Indonesia for $70k. And lost lol. Bad decision on JMM's part. After the second fight with Marquez, Manny moved up in weight and fought Oscar de la Hoya and Ricky Hatton. Obviously much bigger and better fights for Pacquiao. JMM ended up chasing Pacquiao and moved up in weight himself and they fought a third time and a fourth time obviously. What more could Pacquiao do, he fought the man four fucking times! He obviously gave him plenty of opportunities.

Yeah of course Mayweather beat Hatton first, at 147. Hatton was still lineal champ at 140 where Pacquiao was campaigning at the time. That was the best fight for him in the division (not too mention great money).

You're bitching just to bitch at this point.

 

[T-Rip]

The general public knows of Manny cuz of his run at 147 which is a complete joke cuz of catchweights and fighting people at opportunistic times coming off losses and shit. Thats the only point that needed to be made. The only thing that ended up making him look a little better in a nondickriders eyes is beating an undefeated Bradley.

The scoring doesnt make sense on the 1st Marquez Manny fight. It shouldnt have just been on 1 judge for the fight to not be a draw. Seems to me if Manny couldnt decisively win after scoring 3 knockdowns in a round then he didnt deserve to win. I know you still cant admit Manny got outboxed badly in there 3rd fight so theres quite the bias in your eyes as well. Bottom line is he should never have been considered p4p #2 cuz he was never better then Marquez

 

[8FIVE8]

The general public knows of Manny cuz of his run at 147 which is a complete joke cuz of catchweights and fighting people at opportunistic times coming off losses and shit. Thats the only point that needed to be made. The only thing that ended up making him look a little better in a nondickriders eyes is beating an undefeated Bradley.

The scoring doesnt make sense on the 1st Marquez Manny fight. It shouldnt have just been on 1 judge for the fight to not be a draw. Seems to me if Manny couldnt decisively win after scoring 3 knockdowns in a round then he didnt deserve to win. I know you still cant admit Manny got outboxed badly in there 3rd fight so theres quite the bias in your eyes as well. Bottom line is he should never have been considered p4p #2 cuz he was never better then Marquez

Damn TRip u need to stop TRippin

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Hory Shet this fight is in 2 weeks!

 

[RM211]

LESS THAN TWO WEEKS!

 

[ChuckTaylor84]

According to the filipino guy at my job apparently all those accusations are true lol

with the exception of being on cocaine he wasn't sure about that

 

[T-Rip]

Damn TRip u need to stop TRippin

na you need to stop kissing Mannys ass and open your eyes

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Awesome stuff right here from HBO:

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Heres the full movie to show what the media hides lol for those who havent seen it

According to the filipino guy at my job apparently all those accusations are true lol

with the exception of being on cocaine he wasn't sure about that

It's common knowledge Pacquiao cheated on his wife, gambled and was into cock fighting and stuff like that when he was younger. Anyone who has watched any HBO 24/7's with Pacquiao would know this since they hammer it home every single time about how he's changed his life around and became a real christian, etc. The horrible made for Filipino TV low budget crap T-Rip posted was about his early life anyway and Pacquiao has always said he didn't live a very moral life, which is why Pac always talks about this nonstop about becoming a true Christian and all that nonsense. Why T-Rip is talking about this who knows.

Anyone who knows anything about Pacquiao knows this kind of stuff. It's nothing knew and it's always been out in the open (again, Pacquiao always talks about). In the Philippines of course they know more of his dirty laundry than in the US because he lives there (duh) and he's the most popular person in the country by far (they say he's more known than the president and the 3rd most known/popular person in the country is Freddie Roach, only behind the president and Pacquiao lol). Literally anything Pacquiao does makes the news there.

Anyways, if T-Rip is trippin that Pacquiao is viewed as "the good guy" and Mayweather "the bad guy" for this fight, so what? Pacquiao is a likeable dude and Mayweather purposely plays the villain role, so that's by Floyd's own design. He's made a fortune off of people wanting to see him lose. If Floyd played the good guy role his entire career, he'd be Andre Ward (great fighter, making decent money, but not no PPV money).

 

[HERESY]

206 does have a point about if he played the good guy role he would be Andre Ward.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Lost for words

Floyd Mayweather: I Endure Much More Racism Than Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks

 

[T-Rip]

^^^^ I more find it funny u didnt post the movie yourself. Like u didnt want people on here to see it. I mean you post everything else. I never knew it existed till someone posted it on another board

Also everyone makes him out to be so likeable it makes me want to puke.