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battle619 · Jan 10, 2015

Lemieux is not all that, but he will bring in ratings and fight a good fight. Rosado is not all that but still brings in good ratings. More than Quillin.

2-0-Sixx · Jan 10, 2015

@HERESY

Andre Ward: Right Now Move To 175 Don't Make Sense - Boxing News

HERESY · Jan 10, 2015

2-0-Sixx said:

Sounds like he's scared to me. If the guys at 168 don't want to fight you why are you calling out a guy at an even smaller weight class? Why not move up in weight and fight the guys calling you out? You've made 175 before in the Olympics and did it the way you wanted to (which is the same way in the link you posted) This guy had an interview in SF GATE, a pretty long one at that, years ago and I just read it the other day and it was all before the Olympics. It wasn't a matter of him walking around at 185, 190, 200, etc and then butchering himself to make weight. Weight wasn't an issue. Now granted, he was a younger man at the time, so we can take that into consideration, but this guy has the ability to hit 175 and perform at a top level.

Here was the FIRST reply in the thread from the link you posted:

ETA: Are you NATAS on that forum? If so, the cat under you hit it on the head:

2-0-Sixx · Jan 10, 2015

HERESY said:

Sounds like he's scared to me. If the guys at 168 don't want to fight you why are you calling out a guy at an even smaller weight class? Why not move up in weight and fight the guys calling you out? You've made 175 before in the Olympics and did it the way you wanted to (which is the same way in the link you posted) This guy had an interview in SF GATE, a pretty long one at that, years ago and I just read it the other day and it was all before the Olympics. It wasn't a matter of him walking around at 185, 190, 200, etc and then butchering himself to make weight. Weight wasn't an issue. Now granted, he was a younger man at the time, so we can take that into consideration, but this guy has the ability to hit 175 and perform at a top level.

Here was the FIRST reply in the thread from the link you posted:

ETA: Are you NATAS on that forum? If so, the cat under you hit it on the head:

Yep, I agree with you on all account and the quote from the dude on there. I was shaking my head when I read this this morning and thought of you immediately haha had to post it. You like my GGG hat? :siccness:

2-0-Sixx · Jan 10, 2015

naner12 said:

You might be right. This is their stable that I know of:

Canelo Alvarez
David Lemieux
Frankie Gomez
Antonio Orozco
Francisco Vargas
Hugo Centeno Jr.
Julian Ramirez
Diego De La Hoya
Humberto Soto
Mauricio Herrera
Yoshihiro Kamegai
Jorge Linares
Sadam Ali
Gabriel Rosado
Jayson Velez
Michael Perez
Randy Caballero
Rocky Juarez

Plus Amir Khan, Lucas Matthysse, and Leo Santa Cruz. But they'll be gone whenever their contract with GBP is done.

naner12 said:

From my understanding he will since they are under contract and they owe Golden Boy fights. If that's the case, if Mayweather Pacquiao falls apart, Oscar should do everything in his power to make Khan vs Pacquiao. Might as well make some good money before he's off to Haymon's/Mayweather's company.

Coach E. No · Jan 10, 2015

Golden boy was kinda built on signing smaller/Mexican fighters. They made dudes like Bhop, Barrera, and Mosley partners in an effort to get them to sign with them and I don't think anyone would think that the only one still working as a partner would be BHop. Most people expected that to fail miserably and quickly. I think they'll be okay. I'm just really curious how Haymon is going to continue to lock things down as far as his fighters are concerned, and how RN ends up working with GB, TR, and the rest of the promotional firms out there. It really seems like Haymon is really putting all of his eggs in one basket, so it better work out or he's going to see a mass exodus of his stable leaving.

2-0-Sixx · Jan 10, 2015

Coach E. No said:

If Haymon would work with everyone else too it would be cool but it seems like he's trying to have a Haymon fighters only on NBC Sports and Showtime, like he's trying to create a UFC type business model. Might as well make their own belts if that's the case.

heyzel · Jan 10, 2015

Top 10 Boxers 26 and Under
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canelo9111By Charles Crimes: Boxing always has rankings that are constantly moving due to activity and inactivity alike. The pound-for-pound list as of late has been a rotation of the usual suspects and most popular boxers at various weight classes. This list is meant to highlight some of the younger guys. The boxers that will be in the forefront of the sport in a few years to come.

Honorable Mention

emetrius Andrade, Terence Crawford (Too old for the list),Omar Figueroa

10. Anthony Joshua: Joshua is big strong and is an incredible athlete. Like many Heavyweights these days, Joshua was a late start to boxing at 18, but with the skill set that he currently posses few would know that he as only been boxing for seven years.
Detractors would say Joshua has yet to be challenged and has rarely been tested in his 10 fight with 10KO career, but what I see is a young fighter that sits down on his punches. He shows exceptional footwork for his size and mostly importantly has a very high ring IQ for his experience level. I expect Joshua to be a dominate force in the Heavyweight division in the near future.

9. Julian Williams : Williams like the previous entry is also untested but at 24 he fights like a veteran. Williams goes to the body very good and is not afraid to use his footwork. He has a unique ability to make the necessary adjustments to different styles. His only flaw is dealing with timing with faster opponents which over time can be developed.

8. Jermell Charlo: Not to be confused with his twin brother Jermall, Jermell is a young LION. He possesses exceptional boxing skills and ring generalship. Jermell may have already been a world champion but has had some unfortunate mishaps on his path to stardom thus far. Once with a scheduled title fight with Carlos Molina who went to jail just before there fight date and most recently with contract disagreements with WBO Jr. MW Champion Demetrius Andrade. Charlo is a force to be reckoned with @ 154 once he has his chance he will shine in his opportunity.

7. Errol Spence: Spence is my favorite young fighter on this list I can not get enough of watching him fight. He is a like a young more “calculated” Aaron Pryor. The kid has exceptional power. He is the best overall “boxer” on the list over time I can see Spence being a P4P force. If given the opportunity Spence can challenge any fighter from 147-160. Spence is a must watch.

6. Keith Thurman: Thurman is box office. He is brash and has a crowd friendly style that produces plenty of knockouts. Thurman along with the aforementioned Spence are the Future at 147 and 154 in my humble opinion. Thurman impresses me with his ability to make adjustments with adversity (See Diego Chaves, Jesus Soto Karass and Leonard Bundu). He is a good athlete, smart and packs power in both hands. Going forward with Thurman his only flaw is he will occasionally jump and loop into his punches instead of sitting down on them. Thurman is a force.

5.Vasyl Lomachenko: He is one of the most rounded boxers in the world. Coming from a legendary amateur back ground with only 4 fights he is already a world champ and considered by many, including myself. To be the best featherweight in the world. Lomachenko has a controversial loss to Orlando Salido who missed weight purposely and repeatedly fought dirty. Lomachenko is the second best “small” boxer in the world next to conscious pick RING, WBO, WBA jr. featherweight titlist Guillermo Rigondeaux.

4.Adrien Broner: Okay, bare with me again Broner is an unusual character, but he kid has heart and he can fight. Broner is box office due to his polarizing personality and flashy boxing skills, not to mention that he is a three division world champion which says a lot. Broner was given his first title but completely outclassed the then lightweight lineal Champ in Antonio Demarco. After being destroyed in a humbling experience to Marcos Maidana, he has rebounded with tough opponents on his trek back. What I respect about Broner is he isn’t a coward he has been very vocal about wanting a rematch against Maidana and wanting the dangerous slugger Lucas Matthysse. Broner has a bright future and if/when he adjust his sometimes poor footwork he can be a force at 140.

3.Léo Santa Cruz: Santa Cruz is really a joy to watch he is a classic Mexican fighter all offense and excitement. Santa Cruz is already on his way to becoming a legendary force. He is a two division world champ and boast 9 title defenses between the two classes which is utterly impressive considering that he turned pro at the tender age of 17 after being a beast as an amateur with a 148-7 record. Santa Cruz should really be tested in the coming months with the likes of Guillermo Rigondeaux, Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg if the fights can be made.

2.Danny García: People may not like this pick but bare with me, I placed Danny here because of what he has done. Over the last year he has lost some luster with his “Super” gift against Mauricio Herrera and bum showcase against Rod Salka. Those fights were equally a travesty. Nonetheless, Garcia boasts unquestionably one of the best resumes in all of boxing not to mention he is constantly counted out against “perceived” better opposition. Garcia, up until the recent fights, came up the hard way and would really fight anyone. Garcia looks to have a better 2015 by unifying against Lamont Peterson and moving up to 147. Danny Garcia has some things to prove after a disappointing 2014 but he rarely disappoints in the ring.

1. Saúl Canelo Álvarez : This really isn’t a debate there is no fighter in boxing who has had a more difficult schedule of fighters since 2013 than Canelo. The caveat is the controversy behind some of those victories despite that Canelo is the embodiment of what you want in a champion boxer he wants all challengers. There is no question that Canelo wants to be be the best and fight the best. Canelo is star in the making despite ones opinion on his controversial decisions including my own. Canelo looks to have a bigger year with some potential big opponents at 154 and 160.

Coach E. No · Jan 10, 2015

2-0-Sixx said:

I thought it was really lame when they created their own belt initially, but it's worked for them. I was a bigger fan of the old model of fighting multiple times in one night but obviously that doesn't work well from a marketing/consumer standpoint.

If Haymon had enough fighters in each division, I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen. It would be shocking if it really did, even though you were probably joking by suggesting that.

2-0-Sixx · Jan 11, 2015

Coach E. No said:

I thought it was really lame when they created their own belt initially, but it's worked for them. I was a bigger fan of the old model of fighting multiple times in one night but obviously that doesn't work well from a marketing/consumer standpoint.

If Haymon had enough fighters in each division, I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen. It would be shocking if it really did, even though you were probably joking by suggesting that.

Wouldn't work for boxing though it would only make the sport more of a joke.

HERESY · Jan 11, 2015

Was just watching some fights on youtube. Golota was one dirty fighter. I'd put him in the top 5 dirtiest fighters of the modern era.

2-0-Sixx · Jan 11, 2015

HERESY said:

Pound 4 Pound best nut puncher of all time

HERESY · Jan 11, 2015

2-0-Sixx said:

The last gif is probably my favorite comedy moment in boxing. I remember I had you make that for me a while back. They are rubbing and petting the guys head while he is lifted 5 feet off the ground, lmao.

2-0-Sixx · Jan 11, 2015

HERESY said:

lmao one of the most bizarre looking gifs ever!

I used to make boxing gifs all the time I literally have hundreds.

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heyzel · Jan 11, 2015

Terence Crawford Now Ahead Of Matthysse For The Vacant WBO Title
January 11, 2015

Lucas Matthysse and Chris Algieri are the top two contenders under the WBO at 140 light welterweight. But now WBO Lightweight champion Terence Crawford is now in line to fight for the vacant WBO Jr Welterwight title.

After defeating his WBO title for the last time at 135 against Ray Beltran Crawford had announced that he will be moving to 140. Matthysse is ranked number 2 and is looking to fight for the vacant title but Francisco Varcarcel WBO President said that Terence Crawford is in front of him in the line for the shot.

Varcarcel told radio show Campeones En El Ring. "The title was vacated when chris Algieri entered the ring against Manny Pacquiao. Algieri appealed the vacancy and that matter will be resolved later this month on weather he continue to hold that title or not. In the mean time Terence Crawford has priority over Matthysse to access the shot in event he moves up in weight.

2-0-Sixx · Jan 11, 2015

It was bullshit they stripped Algieri of his belt in the first place. He had just won the belt and fights Pacquiao at 144 and they strip him? Total BS. They would never do that to a Mayweather or pretty much anyone for that matter, Lamont Peterson kept his belt for fighting Mattysse at a catch weight, ridiculous.

CZAR · Jan 11, 2015

Thats cause Algeri sucks and shouldnt have never had the belt in the first place. Got Em!!

HERESY · Jan 12, 2015

Floyd wasn't strippee of his belt and Pac wasn't stripped of his. Algerie won the belt fair and square in a great comeback performance against Ruslan and should be treated equally.

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