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Quillin seems slow, like the dude isn't all there or something. He's basically abandoned what little fan base he had working for him at this point which is a shame. I think he would've been beaten by any of the title holders other than maybe Andy Lee, but that doesn't mean I don't want to see him fight. I think he would've been in some great fights and eventually could've drawn a crowd at Barclays.
Someone posted this on another website but I found it interesting with Quillin talking about there's no money in fighting Golovkin. These are Golovkin's opponents reported purses and Quillin's reported purses..
Rosado $200,000
Macklin $300,000
Stevens $350,000
Geale $600,000
Rubio $450,000
Average $380,000
Quillin Purse
vs Wright $130,000
vs N'Dam $150,000
vs Guerrero $340,000
vs Rosado $400,000
vs Konecny $450,000
Average $294,000
Rosado $200,000
Macklin $300,000
Stevens $350,000
Geale $600,000
Rubio $450,000
Average $380,000
Quillin Purse
vs Wright $130,000
vs N'Dam $150,000
vs Guerrero $340,000
vs Rosado $400,000
vs Konecny $450,000
Average $294,000
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And obviously the purse will go up even more with higher quality opponents. What bonehead Quillin doesn't understand is a fight against Golovkin would be considered a big fight thus more money.
Also it seems that $1.4 million dollar payday he turned down went to his head. In the same interview he was talking shit about Korobov and Lee for making such little money against each other. He doesn't realize Roc Nation was only trying to make an entrance into boxing with a title fight, they didn't care about Quillin. He seems to think now he's worth $1m+ paydays.
Also it seems that $1.4 million dollar payday he turned down went to his head. In the same interview he was talking shit about Korobov and Lee for making such little money against each other. He doesn't realize Roc Nation was only trying to make an entrance into boxing with a title fight, they didn't care about Quillin. He seems to think now he's worth $1m+ paydays.
MEMBERS OF TEAM PACQUIAO WORKING BEHIND BOB ARUM'S BACK; QUESTION HIS DESIRE TO MAKE MAYWEATHER FIGHT
By Ben Thompson | December 30, 2014
MEMBERS OF TEAM PACQUIAO WORKING BEHIND BOB ARUM'S BACK; QUESTION HIS DESIRE TO MAKE MAYWEATHER FIGHT
FightHype.com was recently contacted by a representative of Franklin "Jeng" Gacal, long-time Filipino lawyer and Chief of Staff for Filipino Congressman Manny Pacquiao, who was looking to set up a face-to-face meeting with undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather. According to the representative, Gacal is going to be in Mayweather's hometown of Las Vegas, Nevada from December 30 to January 3, and wants to speak with him in hopes of gathering evidence to prove that it's Pacquiao's own promoter, Bob Arum, not Mayweather, preventing the mega-fight from happening.
"In Vegas from the 30th-Jan 3rd and would love a chance to sit with MM [Money Mayweather] and bring the truth back to MP [Manny Pacquiao], so MP will know it has been Koncz and Bob blocking all along," the representative wrote in a recent email sent to FightHype.com. Of course, this wouldn't be the first time that Gacal has tried to convince Pacquiao that Arum is standing in the way of him getting the fight he truly wants. Earlier this year, several months prior to Pacquiao signing a 2-year extension with Top Rank, Gacal publicly urged the Hall of Fame promoter to release the 8-division world champion from his contract to allow him to make history by fighting Mayweather.
"If that is his condition and if Manny agrees, and it looks like Manny will agree to fight Floyd, the only wa) is no renewal of any contract with Bob Arum. Manny should be a freelancer for the fight to be set. History is waiting and Bob should free Manny. That would be Bob's greatest contribution to boxing history," Gacal explained to Edwin Espejo of Rappler.com back in January. "For this fight, Arum should not be involved. That is the only way for the fight to happen. Everybody wants the fight. Bob should give way if that is the only way. That is the advice I can give to Manny for now."
At the time, Gacal also questioned if Pacquiao's advisor, Michael Koncz, had his best interest in mind when it came time to extend his contract. "The current contract [between Top Rank and Pacquiao] was never shown to me. Mike [Koncz] hid it from me. He did not show the contract to me. He did not inform me. I told Mike, you know that it is for the best interest of Manny that no contract should be signed for the moment because apparently that is what Floyd wants or his condition," Gacal continued in the interview. "Mike looks up to Bob Arum when Pacquiao is done with boxing. When Pacquiao is done, who is he? So he has to maintain his good relations with Bob Arum."
It seems that nearly a year later, Gacal's opinions of Koncz and Arum have not changed very much. Some of you may be wondering why Gacal would have his people reach out to FightHype.com. We can only assume that he believed our close ties to Mayweather, who is extremely difficult to reach for most, might get him the meeting he was hoping for. We can confirm, however, that we weren't the only ones that Gacal reached out to, as Pacquiao's former Stength & Conditioning Coach, Alex Ariza, who now has ties to Mayweather, was also contacted directly by Gacal and several other members of Team Pacquiao. Considering that Gacal has been a long-time fixture in Pacquiao's inner circle, one can't help but wonder just how serious Arum really is about wanting to make the mega-fight a reality.
By Ben Thompson | December 30, 2014
MEMBERS OF TEAM PACQUIAO WORKING BEHIND BOB ARUM'S BACK; QUESTION HIS DESIRE TO MAKE MAYWEATHER FIGHT
FightHype.com was recently contacted by a representative of Franklin "Jeng" Gacal, long-time Filipino lawyer and Chief of Staff for Filipino Congressman Manny Pacquiao, who was looking to set up a face-to-face meeting with undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather. According to the representative, Gacal is going to be in Mayweather's hometown of Las Vegas, Nevada from December 30 to January 3, and wants to speak with him in hopes of gathering evidence to prove that it's Pacquiao's own promoter, Bob Arum, not Mayweather, preventing the mega-fight from happening.
"In Vegas from the 30th-Jan 3rd and would love a chance to sit with MM [Money Mayweather] and bring the truth back to MP [Manny Pacquiao], so MP will know it has been Koncz and Bob blocking all along," the representative wrote in a recent email sent to FightHype.com. Of course, this wouldn't be the first time that Gacal has tried to convince Pacquiao that Arum is standing in the way of him getting the fight he truly wants. Earlier this year, several months prior to Pacquiao signing a 2-year extension with Top Rank, Gacal publicly urged the Hall of Fame promoter to release the 8-division world champion from his contract to allow him to make history by fighting Mayweather.
"If that is his condition and if Manny agrees, and it looks like Manny will agree to fight Floyd, the only wa) is no renewal of any contract with Bob Arum. Manny should be a freelancer for the fight to be set. History is waiting and Bob should free Manny. That would be Bob's greatest contribution to boxing history," Gacal explained to Edwin Espejo of Rappler.com back in January. "For this fight, Arum should not be involved. That is the only way for the fight to happen. Everybody wants the fight. Bob should give way if that is the only way. That is the advice I can give to Manny for now."
At the time, Gacal also questioned if Pacquiao's advisor, Michael Koncz, had his best interest in mind when it came time to extend his contract. "The current contract [between Top Rank and Pacquiao] was never shown to me. Mike [Koncz] hid it from me. He did not show the contract to me. He did not inform me. I told Mike, you know that it is for the best interest of Manny that no contract should be signed for the moment because apparently that is what Floyd wants or his condition," Gacal continued in the interview. "Mike looks up to Bob Arum when Pacquiao is done with boxing. When Pacquiao is done, who is he? So he has to maintain his good relations with Bob Arum."
It seems that nearly a year later, Gacal's opinions of Koncz and Arum have not changed very much. Some of you may be wondering why Gacal would have his people reach out to FightHype.com. We can only assume that he believed our close ties to Mayweather, who is extremely difficult to reach for most, might get him the meeting he was hoping for. We can confirm, however, that we weren't the only ones that Gacal reached out to, as Pacquiao's former Stength & Conditioning Coach, Alex Ariza, who now has ties to Mayweather, was also contacted directly by Gacal and several other members of Team Pacquiao. Considering that Gacal has been a long-time fixture in Pacquiao's inner circle, one can't help but wonder just how serious Arum really is about wanting to make the mega-fight a reality.
I take anything from Fight Hype with a grain of salt. They've been wrong before in the past like writing an article about an email about PEDs which was shown later to be false.
With this article I ask myself, why would a representative of Pacquiao's lawyer contact Fight Hype with this information to be published? Their explanation about how they assume it's because they have a good relationship with Floyd isn't a strong explanation. Al Haymon has a business office they can contact. Floyd can be reached he's not Obama. I question the authenticity of this story mainly because of Fight Hypes checkered past and because it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. If Pac's lawyer wants to find out how hard Arum is truly working on the fight, you don't contact a boxing website to find out details, just seems like a strange way of going about business, doesn't it? I won't dismiss this story entirely but I'm definitely going to need more credible sources than an unnamed supposed representative of a lawyer.
And I do agree Pacquiao should not have signed any contracts. He should be like Miguel Cotto and remain a free agent and only sign one fight at a time. But Manny is loyal to a fault, I've always maintained that was his biggest problem. Having guys like Michael Koncz and the likes is terrible. Just look at what Koncz has done with Manny Pacquiao's promotional company (Jack fucking shit). He's a slimy piece of shit, a leech and a terrible businessman.
With this article I ask myself, why would a representative of Pacquiao's lawyer contact Fight Hype with this information to be published? Their explanation about how they assume it's because they have a good relationship with Floyd isn't a strong explanation. Al Haymon has a business office they can contact. Floyd can be reached he's not Obama. I question the authenticity of this story mainly because of Fight Hypes checkered past and because it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. If Pac's lawyer wants to find out how hard Arum is truly working on the fight, you don't contact a boxing website to find out details, just seems like a strange way of going about business, doesn't it? I won't dismiss this story entirely but I'm definitely going to need more credible sources than an unnamed supposed representative of a lawyer.
And I do agree Pacquiao should not have signed any contracts. He should be like Miguel Cotto and remain a free agent and only sign one fight at a time. But Manny is loyal to a fault, I've always maintained that was his biggest problem. Having guys like Michael Koncz and the likes is terrible. Just look at what Koncz has done with Manny Pacquiao's promotional company (Jack fucking shit). He's a slimy piece of shit, a leech and a terrible businessman.
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HERESY and HERESY
I give two fucks about Arum or any promoter for that matter. If he is cock blocking the fight let him be exposed to the entire world. Like I explained in my post, the story isn't very credible at the moment being that it's an unnamed source published on Fight Hype. If the story picks up steam and becomes more credible, that's when I'll be interested. As of right now it means little.
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Coach E. No and Coach E. No
You'll see within a couple of days if the story is credible.
Someone will set the record straight, they have to.
Someone will set the record straight, they have to.
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2-0-Sixx and 2-0-Sixx
And for you people saying Stevenson ducked Pascal, how is that true when Pascal was the one that opted out of his own title shot? LOL! And what's worse? Stevenson's promoter had the venue booked/on hold for them to fight! LMAO! And the WBC has rules about purse splits, so if this was about money this is NOT Stevensons fault.
So we have two people ducking Steveson, Bhop and Pascal, and it's bad because I had BHOP to beat him.
First the Duva lies, which then get switched to "blame Al Haymon" and now the truth about the Pascal Stevenson fight is coming to light.
So we have two people ducking Steveson, Bhop and Pascal, and it's bad because I had BHOP to beat him.
First the Duva lies, which then get switched to "blame Al Haymon" and now the truth about the Pascal Stevenson fight is coming to light.
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No, other people are saying he ducked.
1. WBC said purse split.
2. WBC said Pascal was the mandatory.
3. Stevenson's guy booked the venue for Stevenson and Pascal.
4. Pascal opted out of #2 and chose the Kovalev fight.
I don't want to hear that ducking shit from anyone. This man is not ducking and will rule the LHW division in 2015.
1. WBC said purse split.
2. WBC said Pascal was the mandatory.
3. Stevenson's guy booked the venue for Stevenson and Pascal.
4. Pascal opted out of #2 and chose the Kovalev fight.
I don't want to hear that ducking shit from anyone. This man is not ducking and will rule the LHW division in 2015.
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BoxingScene.com's 2014 Fighter of The Year
Posted by: Jake Donovan on 12/31/2014 .
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By Jake Donovan
Chances are, World lightweight king Terence Crawford was sound asleep in the wee hours of the morning on Tuesday, December 30, while a young rising star in the lower weight classes entered a boxing ring 15 time zones away on the other side of the world.*
Assuming so, then that would mean by the time he woke up, he discovered that something was missing – the Fighter of the Year crown that most believed was secure in his possession.
That’s how brilliant the finishing touches were on the year that was for Japan’s Naoya Inoue, BoxingScene.com’s unanimous choice for 2014 Fighter of the Year.
The closest race in recent memory was also a reminder to all news outlets that there are 365 days in a year, and that the year doesn’t end just because editors prefer to coast during the holiday season.
In all fairness, Inoue wasn’t necessarily on the radar for most of the year, at least not until he agreed to move up two divisions to challenge longtime 115 lb. titlist Omar Narvaez.
When 2014 began, all eyes – at least those familiar with career – were focused on simply what the next 12 months had in store for the prodigious star in the making. Inoue was barely 14 months into his career and months away from his 21s birthday when the year began, but the wheels were already in motion for what would be an unforgettable ride.
Plans were in place for a showdown with top-rated junior flyweight Adrian Hernandez, who agreed to travel from Mexico to Japan in April for a title defense. The all-action slugger from Mexico was a reigning two-time junior flyweight titlist, and regarded as the division’s best fighter.
That was before he ran into Inoue. Six very one-sided rounds later, Inoue had claimed his first belt in just his sixth pro fight.
Think about that for a minute: 20 years old (Inoue turned 21 six days later) just five pro fights to his name, while going up against the #1 rated junior flyweight in the world. Inoue treated the bout like a sparring session.
Aside from the elevated title status, the bout was similar to the rest of his career pattern to that point: dominating opposition with far more experience. To date, each of Inoue’s eight opponents had at least 20 fights (his second career opponent - Ngaoprajan Chuwatana – fighting his 20th pro bout the night of the fight). The win over Hernandez was expected, from an odds perspective, but still eye opening that he could be that good at such a young age.
Still, it was just another notable win as far as boxing pundits were concerned.
Nor was much thought given to his first defense, an 11th round stoppage of Samartiek Kokietgym in September. The most noteworthy tidbit about the fight was the one to which it served as chief support. If a Fighter of the Year candidate had emerged from the evening, it was in the main event when Róman Gonzalez captured the World lineal flyweight championship after stopping reigning king Akira Yaegashi inside of nine rounds.
Still, there was no clear-cut choice for the top spot by late October, around the time Inoue agreed to terms for a shot at Narvaez.
The fight meant moving up two weight classes to super flyweight, and thus severing all ties from the 108 lb. division. Neither task was much of a challenge for Inoue, who at 5’4” and just 21 years old was bound to outgrow junior flyweight in the near future.
But moving up two divisions to take on the best super flyweight in the world?
That’s worth talking about.
The thought of winning the fight in any fashion other than controversially was enough to put Inoue’s name in a mix that – by Thanksgiving weekend – would now include more popular choices such as Crawford, Gonzalez, unbeaten unified light heavyweight titlist Sergey Kovalev.
Gonzalez added one more win to his 2014 campaign, scoring four knockouts in as many fights on the year after stopping Rocky Fuentes in six rounds. The win was the least significant result of a month that also included Kovalev’s 12-round shutout of Bernard Hopkins in a virtuoso performance, and Crawford’s dominant showing against Beltran to capture the vacant World lightweight championship.
If Inoue was to surface to the top, he would have to make a major statement against Narvaez, one that would force the boxing world to stand up and take notice, even with the handicap of his fight taking place in the middle of the week and – for publications and its staff members on this side of the world – in the wee hours of the morning.
Inoue’s blitzing of Narvaez was THAT dominant. It was one where even reading about it still didn’t serve it justice by the time you had the chance to chase down a YouTube video of the event and view for yourself.
Narvaez had never been stopped through more than 14 years as a pro, and came in having fought in 30 career title fights. His first taste of championship life came way back in 2002 – when Inoue was all of 9 years old – as a 12-round win over Adonis Rivas ignited an eight-year title reign covering 16 defenses before moving up to capture a title at super flyweight in 2010.
The only time a fighter was able to hang a loss on him was in Oct. ’11, when Nonito Donaire – regarded as one of the very best fighters in the world and coming off of one of the two best wins of his career at the time – easily outpointed him over 12 rounds in a bantamweight title fight.
Inoue cares about the credentials of his opponent only to the point where his handlers expect full credit once his work is done in the ring for that night. That’s to say, the young lion shows no fear once the opening bell sounds, nor does the thought of losing – or even conceding a single second of action – ever cross his mind.
This was a lesson that Narvaez would have to learn the hard way. Class was officially in session less than a minute into the opening round, when came the first of four knockdowns on the night. Inoue’s attack was akin to a freight train rolling downhill, scoring another knockdown moments later courtey of a left hook to the temple.
Narvaez’ only moral victory of the night was that he survived the opening round onslaught. It was the last time on the night he would make it back to his corner stool on his own terms.
With a championship and history well within sight, Inoue closed the show. Two more knockdowns came late in round two. The fourth and final trip to the canvas for Narvaez was a delayed reaction from a wicked body shot to ultimately put him down for the full ten count.
The night ended with Inoue capturing his second major title. He accomplished the feat in record-breaking fashion by doing so in just his eighth pro fight, the fastest run to two belts in boxing history.
The year ended with violent snatches of two crowns in two separate weight classes, both coming against the best fighter in the world in those respective divisions.
His 22nd birthday still more than three years away, there’s every reason to believe that the best is still yet to come for the unbeaten star on the rise. That can only mean more year-end accolades in his future, to go along with the well-deserved honor of becoming 2014 Fighter of the Year.
Posted by: Jake Donovan on 12/31/2014 .
>>>Click Here For Tons of More Breaking Boxing News, Articles and Insider Information<<<
By Jake Donovan
Chances are, World lightweight king Terence Crawford was sound asleep in the wee hours of the morning on Tuesday, December 30, while a young rising star in the lower weight classes entered a boxing ring 15 time zones away on the other side of the world.*
Assuming so, then that would mean by the time he woke up, he discovered that something was missing – the Fighter of the Year crown that most believed was secure in his possession.
That’s how brilliant the finishing touches were on the year that was for Japan’s Naoya Inoue, BoxingScene.com’s unanimous choice for 2014 Fighter of the Year.
The closest race in recent memory was also a reminder to all news outlets that there are 365 days in a year, and that the year doesn’t end just because editors prefer to coast during the holiday season.
In all fairness, Inoue wasn’t necessarily on the radar for most of the year, at least not until he agreed to move up two divisions to challenge longtime 115 lb. titlist Omar Narvaez.
When 2014 began, all eyes – at least those familiar with career – were focused on simply what the next 12 months had in store for the prodigious star in the making. Inoue was barely 14 months into his career and months away from his 21s birthday when the year began, but the wheels were already in motion for what would be an unforgettable ride.
Plans were in place for a showdown with top-rated junior flyweight Adrian Hernandez, who agreed to travel from Mexico to Japan in April for a title defense. The all-action slugger from Mexico was a reigning two-time junior flyweight titlist, and regarded as the division’s best fighter.
That was before he ran into Inoue. Six very one-sided rounds later, Inoue had claimed his first belt in just his sixth pro fight.
Think about that for a minute: 20 years old (Inoue turned 21 six days later) just five pro fights to his name, while going up against the #1 rated junior flyweight in the world. Inoue treated the bout like a sparring session.
Aside from the elevated title status, the bout was similar to the rest of his career pattern to that point: dominating opposition with far more experience. To date, each of Inoue’s eight opponents had at least 20 fights (his second career opponent - Ngaoprajan Chuwatana – fighting his 20th pro bout the night of the fight). The win over Hernandez was expected, from an odds perspective, but still eye opening that he could be that good at such a young age.
Still, it was just another notable win as far as boxing pundits were concerned.
Nor was much thought given to his first defense, an 11th round stoppage of Samartiek Kokietgym in September. The most noteworthy tidbit about the fight was the one to which it served as chief support. If a Fighter of the Year candidate had emerged from the evening, it was in the main event when Róman Gonzalez captured the World lineal flyweight championship after stopping reigning king Akira Yaegashi inside of nine rounds.
Still, there was no clear-cut choice for the top spot by late October, around the time Inoue agreed to terms for a shot at Narvaez.
The fight meant moving up two weight classes to super flyweight, and thus severing all ties from the 108 lb. division. Neither task was much of a challenge for Inoue, who at 5’4” and just 21 years old was bound to outgrow junior flyweight in the near future.
But moving up two divisions to take on the best super flyweight in the world?
That’s worth talking about.
The thought of winning the fight in any fashion other than controversially was enough to put Inoue’s name in a mix that – by Thanksgiving weekend – would now include more popular choices such as Crawford, Gonzalez, unbeaten unified light heavyweight titlist Sergey Kovalev.
Gonzalez added one more win to his 2014 campaign, scoring four knockouts in as many fights on the year after stopping Rocky Fuentes in six rounds. The win was the least significant result of a month that also included Kovalev’s 12-round shutout of Bernard Hopkins in a virtuoso performance, and Crawford’s dominant showing against Beltran to capture the vacant World lightweight championship.
If Inoue was to surface to the top, he would have to make a major statement against Narvaez, one that would force the boxing world to stand up and take notice, even with the handicap of his fight taking place in the middle of the week and – for publications and its staff members on this side of the world – in the wee hours of the morning.
Inoue’s blitzing of Narvaez was THAT dominant. It was one where even reading about it still didn’t serve it justice by the time you had the chance to chase down a YouTube video of the event and view for yourself.
Narvaez had never been stopped through more than 14 years as a pro, and came in having fought in 30 career title fights. His first taste of championship life came way back in 2002 – when Inoue was all of 9 years old – as a 12-round win over Adonis Rivas ignited an eight-year title reign covering 16 defenses before moving up to capture a title at super flyweight in 2010.
The only time a fighter was able to hang a loss on him was in Oct. ’11, when Nonito Donaire – regarded as one of the very best fighters in the world and coming off of one of the two best wins of his career at the time – easily outpointed him over 12 rounds in a bantamweight title fight.
Inoue cares about the credentials of his opponent only to the point where his handlers expect full credit once his work is done in the ring for that night. That’s to say, the young lion shows no fear once the opening bell sounds, nor does the thought of losing – or even conceding a single second of action – ever cross his mind.
This was a lesson that Narvaez would have to learn the hard way. Class was officially in session less than a minute into the opening round, when came the first of four knockdowns on the night. Inoue’s attack was akin to a freight train rolling downhill, scoring another knockdown moments later courtey of a left hook to the temple.
Narvaez’ only moral victory of the night was that he survived the opening round onslaught. It was the last time on the night he would make it back to his corner stool on his own terms.
With a championship and history well within sight, Inoue closed the show. Two more knockdowns came late in round two. The fourth and final trip to the canvas for Narvaez was a delayed reaction from a wicked body shot to ultimately put him down for the full ten count.
The night ended with Inoue capturing his second major title. He accomplished the feat in record-breaking fashion by doing so in just his eighth pro fight, the fastest run to two belts in boxing history.
The year ended with violent snatches of two crowns in two separate weight classes, both coming against the best fighter in the world in those respective divisions.
His 22nd birthday still more than three years away, there’s every reason to believe that the best is still yet to come for the unbeaten star on the rise. That can only mean more year-end accolades in his future, to go along with the well-deserved honor of becoming 2014 Fighter of the Year.