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That's what a wasted year will do to a fighter. He had all that momentum in 2013 fighting on HBO being hyped up as one of boxings best newest stars. And after fighting bums all of 2014 no one really cares. This is another example of how Haymon can be bad for a fighter. If he was 25 or some shit ok that's understandable but dude is pushing 40. Instead of making the best of the limited time he has he pretty much wasted an entire year. Hopefully he makes things right by fighting Kovalev next year somehow.
And Hopkins and now Pascal. Three big fights he missed out on because in all three instances Team Stevenson tried to get more money
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IMP or whatever they're going to be called just lost their first fighter and I'm sure more are to come. I'm sure someone will try and get Payano, Diaz, Vazquez soon.
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Highly touted middleweight prospect Ievgen Khytrov has signed a co-promotional deal with Lou DiBella, who will guide his career along with original promoter Fight Promotions Inc., DiBella told ESPN.com.
Khytrov (7-0, 7 KOs), 26, a native of Ukraine living in Brooklyn, New York, was being co-promoted by Iron Mike Productions. But with the implosion of IMP, DiBella said he made a deal to buy out IMP's stake in his contract. Khytrov, a gold medalist at the 2011 amateur world championships and 2012 Olympian, has looked superb as a professional.
"I think he's an animal," DiBella said. "I think in two years down the road a fight between him and [Gennady] Golovkin is warfare. He's not ready yet, but that's a fight that I think will happen someday."
DiBella said Khytrov's first bout of the new deal will be on the "ShoBox" card he is promoting on Jan. 9 (Showtime) at the Morongo resort in Cabazon, California. The card is slated to be headlined by lightweight prospect Ivan Redkach (17-0, 13 KOs).
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Highly touted middleweight prospect Ievgen Khytrov has signed a co-promotional deal with Lou DiBella, who will guide his career along with original promoter Fight Promotions Inc., DiBella told ESPN.com.
Khytrov (7-0, 7 KOs), 26, a native of Ukraine living in Brooklyn, New York, was being co-promoted by Iron Mike Productions. But with the implosion of IMP, DiBella said he made a deal to buy out IMP's stake in his contract. Khytrov, a gold medalist at the 2011 amateur world championships and 2012 Olympian, has looked superb as a professional.
"I think he's an animal," DiBella said. "I think in two years down the road a fight between him and [Gennady] Golovkin is warfare. He's not ready yet, but that's a fight that I think will happen someday."
DiBella said Khytrov's first bout of the new deal will be on the "ShoBox" card he is promoting on Jan. 9 (Showtime) at the Morongo resort in Cabazon, California. The card is slated to be headlined by lightweight prospect Ivan Redkach (17-0, 13 KOs).
Ha! Hopkins said he took it because Haymon was taking too long, exposed his plan to everyone, and after said yeah this will also squash the lawsuit. Hopkins was there at Showtime for MONTHS to make a deal with and Haymon Sat on it, thinking he's not going anywhere. If Hopkins had the choice of MORE money AND the LINEAL title of course Hopkins is going to take that, but as we know Haymon tried to dick him around and Hopkins made a power move in response. Stop defending Stevenson. Kovalev, Hopkins and Pascal all just happened to slip away? one time is unlucky, two times extremely unlucky, three times is a pattern and we obviously know whose as fault here. Three canadian mega fights back to back to back lost? Sure buddy
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I already posted the proof awhile back. Hopkins didn't tell anyone of the deadline, this is a known fact. Hopkins took the fight to settle the lawsuit, this is a known fact. Duva was lying about the Stevenson negotiations, this is a known fact. Stevenson tried to have HBO match the offer, in fact he was legally obligated to bring it back to them, this is a known fact.
I;m just droppin facts, bro.
I;m just droppin facts, bro.
No one is going to fight Stevenson next year and his ratings will drop so much that he's only gonna be worth a few thousand dollars. Meanwhile, Kovalev destroys everyone and will make millions and thanks Haymon for fucking up Stevensons' career. That's correct, HERESY?
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It's not a fact it's an assumption on your part that Al Haymon had no clue about a deadline even though it was PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. But Stevenson is ur blindside, you can't be reasoned with despite the obvious information in front of you that Stevenson missed out on three big fights in a row because of his greedy "personal advisor".
How was it public knowledge when the IBF said the only person who knew the exact time of the deadline was Hopkins? Bro it's simple, people knew of a deadline but they didn't know when the deadline was. Did he miss out on fights? Yes, but at first you guys were blaming Stevenson and it wasn't his fault.
Yeah sure man, the most powerful man in boxing was clueless on the deadline lol.
Anyways, looks like Jermain Taylor is at it again, and he still has that attempted murder charge just around the corner
Jermain Taylor Now in More Legal Hot Water? - Boxing News
Anyways, looks like Jermain Taylor is at it again, and he still has that attempted murder charge just around the corner
Jermain Taylor Now in More Legal Hot Water? - Boxing News
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Merry Christmas from the Pacquiao's:
Lol @ all his kids having mustaches
Lol @ all his kids having mustaches
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Jim Lampley Slams Al Haymon on HBO’s ‘The Fight Game’
Victor Salazar
By Victor Salazar December 26, 2014 12:22 pm
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120506-jim-lampley-1024The Fight Game with Jim Lampley is an excellent platform to use if done correctly. However the criticism has been plenty from on lookers and such. Bringing on Michelle Beadle wasn’t a move many liked and when harsh criticisms are needed, it seems like to many, Lampley does it when it doesn’t involve anyone on the HBO network.
Case in point, Al Haymon.
Lampley ended the year firing, going at the power broker advisor and his dealings especially on a down 2014 year for many of his clients in terms of big fight. Here is the excerpt of what Lampley said.
“We keep returning on TFG to the depiction of boxing as a risk vs. reward equation,” Lampley said. “Our person of the year is a man who is widely acknowledged to have, on behalf of his star client Floyd Mayweather, mastered that equation like no other manager in history. But our designation of Al Haymon as the year’s most influential figure has little to do with his advice to last year’s Person of the Year, Mayweather. It’s about what he is doing with the other reported 130-plus fighters who now make up his clientele…..If you had a sense 2014 was a year somewhat devoid of compelling top-level competition you wouldn’t be off base.”
True indeed, but Mayweather was one HBO’s staple on pay-per-view and you can say some of his fights that were on pay-per-view, much like a green Victor Ortiz, an older Miguel Cotto, and a smaller Ricky Hatton just to name a few, weren’t really threatening and when HBO aired those fights, no criticism was waned.
Lampley continued, “Light heavyweight champion Adonis Stevenson had opportunities to fight three fellow stars, Sergei Kovalev, Bernard Hopkins, and Jean Pascal. He avoided all three. Middleweight titlist Peter Quillin gave up a belt and a career-high purse to avoid a fight with Mat Korobov. Talented junior featherweight titlist Leo Santa Cruz fought a sparring partner on the undercard of Mayweather-Maidana II. Adrien Broner and Lucas Matthysse, logical opponents for each other, fought lesser opponents on the same card. Danny Garcia fought a 140-pound opponent so under qualified even the governing bodies that market his belts wouldn’t dignify the enterprise by charging a sanctioning fee. Rising welterweight force Keith Thurman fought long-faded former lightweight Julio Diaz, then fought a 40-year old nonentity. All these stars are advised by Al Haymon, and that’s the proverbial tip of the iceberg.”
Again point taken here as well. I agree with all Lampley’s points but how about Sergey Kovalev fighting guys like Cedric Agnew and Blake Caparello? Kovalev is a monster but those fights were cakewalks. How about green lighting Gennady Golovkin-Marco Antonio Rubio? Golovkin is one of the best fighters in the world but a mismatch like that should deserve as much criticism as some of the shots he took at Haymon.
HBO under the direction of Ross Greenburg and Kery Davis were infamous for plenty Haymon mismatches especially those involving Andre Berto, a fighter that would get 7 figures to fight the likes of Freddy Hernandez, Juan Urango and Jan Zaveck. But that’s in the past and this is now. HBO did have a solid year in 2014 but not nothing to write home about. They went dark for a period in the summer but did end 2014 with a good run. Showtime outdid them in 2013 but took a massive step back with all the mismatches Lampley mentioned.
So how about the outlook for Haymon and his 130 clients in 2015?
Here’s what Lampley had to say:
“It would be great for boxing if one brilliant entrepreneur managed an astonishing client list of 130-plus fighters with the consistent objective of making the most attractive and competitive fights available, within reasonable limits to protect their health and business prospects. But that isn’t Haymon’s game. He’s about avoidance of risky competition. His formula has worked for star client Floyd Mayweather for a variety of reasons, among them that Mayweather took the right perceived risks earlier on, versus Genaro Hernandez and Oscar De La Hoya, to get to where he is now. But the Mayweather approach is not the right approach for the overall enhancement of boxing.”
“Boxing fans want to see great fights, without which it is difficult to earn an identity as a great fighter. It’s widely reported that for the next two years, Haymon will provide talent for as many as 40 boxing telecasts on NBC Sports Net, and NBC. This would normally be cause to rejoice for everyone in the business. But no one is rejoicing now, unless the philosophy changes and viewers get to see the best fighting the best. And based on what happened to Haymon’s clients in 2014, that’s the last thing we can expect. So in gathering together the largest concentration of boxing talent in the history of the sport, and then mostly shielding that talent, from the kind of competition that would make him a hero to the boxing world, Al Haymon is the 2014 TFG Person of the Year.”
Lampley is right. We should be rejoicing boxing getting more dates on other networks especially if regular network television is the reach. But if history was too repeat itself a third time, Haymon would give a black eye to another network. He did it to HBO, Showtime, and here’s hoping he doesn’t do it to NBC. Here’s hoping to the third time being a charm.
I do commend Lampley for being a big voice in boxing and going after one of the biggest power brokers in boxing but Lampley should be fair and call out his own side for things that need correction, then his show can be the platform it should be.
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By Victor Salazar December 26, 2014 12:22 pm
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120506-jim-lampley-1024The Fight Game with Jim Lampley is an excellent platform to use if done correctly. However the criticism has been plenty from on lookers and such. Bringing on Michelle Beadle wasn’t a move many liked and when harsh criticisms are needed, it seems like to many, Lampley does it when it doesn’t involve anyone on the HBO network.
Case in point, Al Haymon.
Lampley ended the year firing, going at the power broker advisor and his dealings especially on a down 2014 year for many of his clients in terms of big fight. Here is the excerpt of what Lampley said.
“We keep returning on TFG to the depiction of boxing as a risk vs. reward equation,” Lampley said. “Our person of the year is a man who is widely acknowledged to have, on behalf of his star client Floyd Mayweather, mastered that equation like no other manager in history. But our designation of Al Haymon as the year’s most influential figure has little to do with his advice to last year’s Person of the Year, Mayweather. It’s about what he is doing with the other reported 130-plus fighters who now make up his clientele…..If you had a sense 2014 was a year somewhat devoid of compelling top-level competition you wouldn’t be off base.”
True indeed, but Mayweather was one HBO’s staple on pay-per-view and you can say some of his fights that were on pay-per-view, much like a green Victor Ortiz, an older Miguel Cotto, and a smaller Ricky Hatton just to name a few, weren’t really threatening and when HBO aired those fights, no criticism was waned.
Lampley continued, “Light heavyweight champion Adonis Stevenson had opportunities to fight three fellow stars, Sergei Kovalev, Bernard Hopkins, and Jean Pascal. He avoided all three. Middleweight titlist Peter Quillin gave up a belt and a career-high purse to avoid a fight with Mat Korobov. Talented junior featherweight titlist Leo Santa Cruz fought a sparring partner on the undercard of Mayweather-Maidana II. Adrien Broner and Lucas Matthysse, logical opponents for each other, fought lesser opponents on the same card. Danny Garcia fought a 140-pound opponent so under qualified even the governing bodies that market his belts wouldn’t dignify the enterprise by charging a sanctioning fee. Rising welterweight force Keith Thurman fought long-faded former lightweight Julio Diaz, then fought a 40-year old nonentity. All these stars are advised by Al Haymon, and that’s the proverbial tip of the iceberg.”
Again point taken here as well. I agree with all Lampley’s points but how about Sergey Kovalev fighting guys like Cedric Agnew and Blake Caparello? Kovalev is a monster but those fights were cakewalks. How about green lighting Gennady Golovkin-Marco Antonio Rubio? Golovkin is one of the best fighters in the world but a mismatch like that should deserve as much criticism as some of the shots he took at Haymon.
HBO under the direction of Ross Greenburg and Kery Davis were infamous for plenty Haymon mismatches especially those involving Andre Berto, a fighter that would get 7 figures to fight the likes of Freddy Hernandez, Juan Urango and Jan Zaveck. But that’s in the past and this is now. HBO did have a solid year in 2014 but not nothing to write home about. They went dark for a period in the summer but did end 2014 with a good run. Showtime outdid them in 2013 but took a massive step back with all the mismatches Lampley mentioned.
So how about the outlook for Haymon and his 130 clients in 2015?
Here’s what Lampley had to say:
“It would be great for boxing if one brilliant entrepreneur managed an astonishing client list of 130-plus fighters with the consistent objective of making the most attractive and competitive fights available, within reasonable limits to protect their health and business prospects. But that isn’t Haymon’s game. He’s about avoidance of risky competition. His formula has worked for star client Floyd Mayweather for a variety of reasons, among them that Mayweather took the right perceived risks earlier on, versus Genaro Hernandez and Oscar De La Hoya, to get to where he is now. But the Mayweather approach is not the right approach for the overall enhancement of boxing.”
“Boxing fans want to see great fights, without which it is difficult to earn an identity as a great fighter. It’s widely reported that for the next two years, Haymon will provide talent for as many as 40 boxing telecasts on NBC Sports Net, and NBC. This would normally be cause to rejoice for everyone in the business. But no one is rejoicing now, unless the philosophy changes and viewers get to see the best fighting the best. And based on what happened to Haymon’s clients in 2014, that’s the last thing we can expect. So in gathering together the largest concentration of boxing talent in the history of the sport, and then mostly shielding that talent, from the kind of competition that would make him a hero to the boxing world, Al Haymon is the 2014 TFG Person of the Year.”
Lampley is right. We should be rejoicing boxing getting more dates on other networks especially if regular network television is the reach. But if history was too repeat itself a third time, Haymon would give a black eye to another network. He did it to HBO, Showtime, and here’s hoping he doesn’t do it to NBC. Here’s hoping to the third time being a charm.
I do commend Lampley for being a big voice in boxing and going after one of the biggest power brokers in boxing but Lampley should be fair and call out his own side for things that need correction, then his show can be the platform it should be.
Lol it's like Peter Quillin purposely tries to alienate himself from boxing fans smh
Quillin: Golovkin Doesn't Bring Much Money To The Table
Regarding a potential fight with Golovkin, Quillin says*the opponents of the dangerous Kazakhstan*puncher are not getting paid a lot of money [at least in comparison to what Quillin makes].
“Gennady Golovkin is a scary boogeyman. His name is there, but the money and business behind him is not equaling up to each other. Gennady Golovkin is looking for that payday too. The name doesn’t really bring much to the table besides a high risk fight with a low reward. Just saying to a bunch of fans -*‘I beat Gennady Golovkin' -*that’s all it really does [in fighting and beating him]. I’m not thinking like that. I’m not thinking of beating this guy because of the fans," Quillin told IFL TV.
"The fans only do so much for you. I believe that if you're a true fan of somebody, you support them for the reasons that you do. Like Muhammad Ali, can you remember all of the fights that he fought? You only remember the good fights that he fought. And that goes for Sugar Ray Leonard and everyone else. You only remember those career defining fights."
Quillin: Golovkin Doesn't Bring Much Money To The Table
Regarding a potential fight with Golovkin, Quillin says*the opponents of the dangerous Kazakhstan*puncher are not getting paid a lot of money [at least in comparison to what Quillin makes].
“Gennady Golovkin is a scary boogeyman. His name is there, but the money and business behind him is not equaling up to each other. Gennady Golovkin is looking for that payday too. The name doesn’t really bring much to the table besides a high risk fight with a low reward. Just saying to a bunch of fans -*‘I beat Gennady Golovkin' -*that’s all it really does [in fighting and beating him]. I’m not thinking like that. I’m not thinking of beating this guy because of the fans," Quillin told IFL TV.
"The fans only do so much for you. I believe that if you're a true fan of somebody, you support them for the reasons that you do. Like Muhammad Ali, can you remember all of the fights that he fought? You only remember the good fights that he fought. And that goes for Sugar Ray Leonard and everyone else. You only remember those career defining fights."
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