Oh boy again I could careless what u think about my comprehensive skills dog. U are wasting your time. Can we talk about the boxing as you are just speaking jibberish in my book. Who cares dog. If it makes u feel better than my comprehensive skills are low than fine by me. It means no nevermind to me so your wasting your time real talk. Maybe my skills are so low because I got put to sleep like Manny did LMAO!! Got Em!!
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300k out of a 1 million? How would you come up with that numbers? You realize he fought Chris Algieri right? Obviously if he fights someone more known the numbers are going to be higher. again real fuzzy math. Pacquiao Bradley 2 did between 775k and 800k. So again it's weird that you would use Chris Algieri as some kind of benchmark.
Im not arguing that Floyd shouldn't get more money, he should obviously. 70/30 though isn't legit at all.
Im not arguing that Floyd shouldn't get more money, he should obviously. 70/30 though isn't legit at all.
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I'm not a huge Bradley fan but I'm surprised at the hate he gets. Look at the guys Bradley's been in the ring with for the last 7 years. It's tough fight after tough fight after tough fight. Gets beat up by Pacquiao? Let's sign on to fight Diego Chaves, for no belt or anything.
He should really be thought of better than what it seems.
He should really be thought of better than what it seems.
Provodnikov targeting Maidana, Matthysse and Danny Garcia for next fight on March 28th
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marcos rene maidana lucas matthysse danny garcia photoBy Dan Ambrose: #2 WBO light welterweight contender Ruslan Provodnikov (24-3, 17 KOs) will be back in the ring in the next three months on March 28th in a fight that will take place at a still to be determined venue in the United States.
Provodnikov, 30, is hoping that he can get one of the following fighters to agree to face him: Marcos Maidana, Danny Garcia or Lucas Matthysse. The problem is that those fighters are managed by Al Haymon, and it’s highly doubtful that Haymon will bother setting them up for a dangerous fight against a slugger like Provodnikov when there’s not much of any upside.
Provodnikov lost his WBO 140 pound title earlier this year in getting beaten by Chris Algieri by a close 12 round split decision last June. While the fight was close, there’s no mistaking the fact that Algieri out-boxed Provodnikov in the second half of the fight to earn the decision.
Further, Provodnikov didn’t look that great in beating 40-year-old Jose Luis Castillo last week in stopping him in the 5th round in Moscow, Russia. To be sure, Provodnikov eventually got the stoppage, but he still showed the same problems that he did in his loss to Algieri. Even Castillo directly in front of him for most of the fight, Provodnikov was missing a lot with his shots, and looking very limited.
You’d have to favor Maidana, Garcia and Matthysse over Provodnikov if a fight against him where to happen. Those guys can punch just as hard as Provodnikov if not harder, and they’re much better at putting their punches together than him. Maidana now has an excellent jab that he uses, and he’s capable of out-boxing limited sluggers.
Matthysse does everything that Provodnikov does but a lot better. He’s like a better version of Provodnikov. Danny Garcia is simply at another level than Provodnikov in my view, and I think it would be a one-sided fight if he were to agree to fight him.
Garcia would likely have zero interest in fighting Provodnikov now though, because he’s looking for big fights against the big names. Provodnikov isn’t a big name, and it’s not going to give Garcia the kind of payday he’s looking for.
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marcos rene maidana lucas matthysse danny garcia photoBy Dan Ambrose: #2 WBO light welterweight contender Ruslan Provodnikov (24-3, 17 KOs) will be back in the ring in the next three months on March 28th in a fight that will take place at a still to be determined venue in the United States.
Provodnikov, 30, is hoping that he can get one of the following fighters to agree to face him: Marcos Maidana, Danny Garcia or Lucas Matthysse. The problem is that those fighters are managed by Al Haymon, and it’s highly doubtful that Haymon will bother setting them up for a dangerous fight against a slugger like Provodnikov when there’s not much of any upside.
Provodnikov lost his WBO 140 pound title earlier this year in getting beaten by Chris Algieri by a close 12 round split decision last June. While the fight was close, there’s no mistaking the fact that Algieri out-boxed Provodnikov in the second half of the fight to earn the decision.
Further, Provodnikov didn’t look that great in beating 40-year-old Jose Luis Castillo last week in stopping him in the 5th round in Moscow, Russia. To be sure, Provodnikov eventually got the stoppage, but he still showed the same problems that he did in his loss to Algieri. Even Castillo directly in front of him for most of the fight, Provodnikov was missing a lot with his shots, and looking very limited.
You’d have to favor Maidana, Garcia and Matthysse over Provodnikov if a fight against him where to happen. Those guys can punch just as hard as Provodnikov if not harder, and they’re much better at putting their punches together than him. Maidana now has an excellent jab that he uses, and he’s capable of out-boxing limited sluggers.
Matthysse does everything that Provodnikov does but a lot better. He’s like a better version of Provodnikov. Danny Garcia is simply at another level than Provodnikov in my view, and I think it would be a one-sided fight if he were to agree to fight him.
Garcia would likely have zero interest in fighting Provodnikov now though, because he’s looking for big fights against the big names. Provodnikov isn’t a big name, and it’s not going to give Garcia the kind of payday he’s looking for.
I think among hardcore fans he is liked. The only knock on him is punching power. He didn't do himself any favors though when he consistently insisted that he beat Pacquiao then got this chip on his shoulder about it and changed from his nice guy image that he used to have to this wannabe baddass image he tries to carry around now.
But he's been great for boxing. He fights everyone and exceeded expectations basically every time out.
But he's been great for boxing. He fights everyone and exceeded expectations basically every time out.
Algieri should be used as a benchmark since that was his last fight. No matter how you slice it, 300K is terrible, if Pacquiao was that big of a draw, the fight would have sold at least 500K. So if Pacquiao only did 300K, that means that's all he's worth (30%). Showtime did a favor by throwing an extra 5% in that offer. If Floyd's last fight against Miadana pulled in 900K, then Floyd is tripled Pacquiao PPV's numbers.
If Pacquiao and Floyd did fight, it's obvious who the fans are tuning in to see....
If Pacquiao and Floyd did fight, it's obvious who the fans are tuning in to see....
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lmfao..... just calling it like I see it. Your boy is just losing leverage. They played it safe so that Pacquiao wouldn't get put to sleep again ( to avoid killing his chances of fighting Floyd) but at the same time the quality of opponents and his PPV numbers dipped. I don't think he deserves 60/40 now. He never even deserved 50/50.
65/35 seems about right....
Only 300K tuned in to see Manny? lmfao.... Floyd was right, those numbers are a joke!
65/35 seems about right....
Only 300K tuned in to see Manny? lmfao.... Floyd was right, those numbers are a joke!
those numbers are pretty bad no matter what anyone says about it. What happened to all his dedicated fans? It just proves that most of them are casuals that just hate Floyd like a lot of people made the argument that Maidana was everyones new favorite fighter cuz he gave Floyd a tough fight the 1st fight.
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I guess Floyd nut's are in his mouth too!
I guess Floyd nut's are in his mouth too!
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This is a blog, man (and he ain't making $500k a year!).
Look, you have the richest fight in history that can only be made between these two guys. 70/30 would kill this fight. That obviously wouldn't fly.
Obviously there is going to be a big gap in PPV buys when you fight a no name, which is proven by 800k when fought Bradley to 300k when he fought Algieri. If you think negotiations just go by the last PPV without taking in aanything else into account, well that pretty much sums up you don't know what you're talking about.
Look, you have the richest fight in history that can only be made between these two guys. 70/30 would kill this fight. That obviously wouldn't fly.
Obviously there is going to be a big gap in PPV buys when you fight a no name, which is proven by 800k when fought Bradley to 300k when he fought Algieri. If you think negotiations just go by the last PPV without taking in aanything else into account, well that pretty much sums up you don't know what you're talking about.
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I've been thinking their middleweight careers are very similar too. Remember, Hopkins had just one belt, the IBF, which he defended a record 20 times. GGG is already around 12 or so defenses. Hopkins spent years fighting all the top ten opponents, unable to secure a big fight while other title holders ducked him. Same thing is happening with GGG. It wasn't until the "old age" of 36 that Hopkins finally got his big shot, against hugely popular Tito Trinidad. I think Canelo will be Golovkin's Trinidad by the end of next year or early 2016, and like Hopkins with the win he'll unify all of the middleweight belts. History repeating itself is pretty cool to see.
I've been thinking their middleweight careers are very similar too. Remember, Hopkins had just one belt, the IBF, which he defended a record 20 times. GGG is already around 12 or so defenses. Hopkins spent years fighting all the top ten opponents, unable to secure a big fight while other title holders ducked him. Same thing is happening with GGG. It wasn't until the "old age" of 36 that Hopkins finally got his big shot, against hugely popular Tito Trinidad. I think Canelo will be Golovkin's Trinidad by the end of next year or early 2016, and like Hopkins with the win he'll unify all of the middleweight belts. History repeating itself is pretty cool to see.