I read this on another site, I remember when this came about in 2000
Just placing it here for discussion, possibly something to revisit in 2015
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14 Years ago a Time Traveler Warned us of a Nuclear War with Russia in 2015
Yep, another John Titor thread, all these years later. For those of you who are unaware of John Titor, he showed up on internet discussion boards claiming he was a time traveler from the year 2036 who was sent back to the year 2000. His first post was in November 2000 and his last was on March 24, 2001.
Titor wrote about many subjects and was most open about the science behind time travel, which many find very compelling. But what I want to discuss in this thread is what he had to say about an impending collapse of America and the resulting world war. He spoke of a US civil war that wasn't so much a shooting war, but a "steady series of Waco type events" resulting in the destruction of the constitution and complete federal encroachment on the major cities. At the same time this happens, the entire "western" power structure weakens and is tested by other emerging powers, culminating in nuclear exchange and WW3.
Skeptic Overlord himself said about Titor: "Review the information, discuss, debate, and draw your own conclusions."
Best taken with a large grain of salt, but for what it's worth, here it is.
Life is not easy. We live in a world recovering from years of war, poison, destruction and hate. All of it, courtesy of the thinking and actions of people that live right now in the same world you do, worrying about which stocks to buy while you sit by and watch your Constitution being torn away from you, you willfully eat poisoned food, buy manufactured products no one needs and turn an uncaring eye away from millions of people suffering and dying all around you.
Personally, my generation sees itself as having a duty to try and repair the mess our fathers handed to us. When we were young, most of us had a small taste of the world you live in now and our only dream is to clean it up and give it back to those still able to have children.
Please take a look at the front cover of this month's Popular Mechanics because it's a great example of your legacy to 2036 after the war.
(Will you readily be able to identify the enemy?) They will be the ones arresting and holding people without due process.
When the civil "conflict" started and got worse, people generally decided to either stay in the cities and lose most of their civil rights under the guise of security or leave the cities for more isolated and rural areas. By that time, it was pretty clear that we were not going back to what we had and the division between the "cities" and the "country" was well defined.
I am not confident things are different enough for you to avoid the conflict. You may also consider the possibility that a world with no war is far less desirable in the long run.
Yes, I think the New World Order idea tried to establish itself.
(What do the years from 2008 to 2015 look like?) Western instability during the conflict leads to the attack in 2015. WWIII is very short with a longer period of mop up.
Yes, there are unusual events in 2012 but they do not cause the world to end. Perhaps you are familiar with the story of the Red Sea and the Egyptians?
(Does the events happening in the Middle east concerning the Arabs and Jews have anything to do with the coming war? ) Yes. The Jewish population in Israel is not prepared for a true offensive war. They are prepared for the ultimate defense. Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel's neighbors the confidence to attack. The last resort for a defensive Israel and its offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction. In the grand scheme of things, the war in the Middle East is a part of what's to come, not the cause.
Real disruptions in world events begin with the destabilization of the West as a result of degrading US foreign policy and consistency.
The West will become very unstable which gives China the confidence to "expand".
I just saw another story today about the Russians moving Nukes into the Balkans to thwart any future expansion by NATO.
Are any of you familiar with the Russian partisan movement in WWII?
The (Russian) attack on Europe is in response to a unified European army that masses and moves East from Germany.
Russia's enemy in the United States is not you, the average person. Russia's enemy is the United States government.
The "enemy" that was attacked by Russia in the U.S. was the forces of the government you live under right now.
I know exactly where I was and every detail of the exact moment the first nuclear warheads began falling on Jacksonville.
In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States, (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective). The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we won.
In the opening hours of N Day, the Russians did not launch any high altitude detonations. They knew we would most likely clean up after them so they wanted everyone outside the cities to be able to communicate. Most of the warheads that hit the cities came in threes and exploded close to the ground.
Please be aware that from my viewpoint, Russia attacked my enemy who was in the U.S. cities. If you push a farmer too far, they stop growing food and have nothing to do but hide in the woods and shoot back. Their goal was to maintain power and control over other people. We killed most of them by 2020.
(Was alot of the United States' 18-24 age group slaughtered in the war because of Draft?) Yes.
It's hard to say what the exact racial make up of the U.S. is. I would say it's probably the same minus 130 million people or so.
Yes, Europe is a mess. The European Union was destroyed.
(Can you at least tell us which cities will be nuked?) No I won't do that. However, I submit to you that when the moment comes it will be absolutely plain as day that you are unsafe in the cities. The millions people that stay will choose to stay. That's what comes as a surprise.
(What is the specific Date that the Nuclear war starts? If you can't remember the exact date, could you put the month at least? An estimate!) I remember the exact date. When it comes, it will not be a surprise.
Just placing it here for discussion, possibly something to revisit in 2015
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14 Years ago a Time Traveler Warned us of a Nuclear War with Russia in 2015
Yep, another John Titor thread, all these years later. For those of you who are unaware of John Titor, he showed up on internet discussion boards claiming he was a time traveler from the year 2036 who was sent back to the year 2000. His first post was in November 2000 and his last was on March 24, 2001.
Titor wrote about many subjects and was most open about the science behind time travel, which many find very compelling. But what I want to discuss in this thread is what he had to say about an impending collapse of America and the resulting world war. He spoke of a US civil war that wasn't so much a shooting war, but a "steady series of Waco type events" resulting in the destruction of the constitution and complete federal encroachment on the major cities. At the same time this happens, the entire "western" power structure weakens and is tested by other emerging powers, culminating in nuclear exchange and WW3.
Skeptic Overlord himself said about Titor: "Review the information, discuss, debate, and draw your own conclusions."
Best taken with a large grain of salt, but for what it's worth, here it is.
Life is not easy. We live in a world recovering from years of war, poison, destruction and hate. All of it, courtesy of the thinking and actions of people that live right now in the same world you do, worrying about which stocks to buy while you sit by and watch your Constitution being torn away from you, you willfully eat poisoned food, buy manufactured products no one needs and turn an uncaring eye away from millions of people suffering and dying all around you.
Personally, my generation sees itself as having a duty to try and repair the mess our fathers handed to us. When we were young, most of us had a small taste of the world you live in now and our only dream is to clean it up and give it back to those still able to have children.
Please take a look at the front cover of this month's Popular Mechanics because it's a great example of your legacy to 2036 after the war.
(Will you readily be able to identify the enemy?) They will be the ones arresting and holding people without due process.
When the civil "conflict" started and got worse, people generally decided to either stay in the cities and lose most of their civil rights under the guise of security or leave the cities for more isolated and rural areas. By that time, it was pretty clear that we were not going back to what we had and the division between the "cities" and the "country" was well defined.
I am not confident things are different enough for you to avoid the conflict. You may also consider the possibility that a world with no war is far less desirable in the long run.
Yes, I think the New World Order idea tried to establish itself.
(What do the years from 2008 to 2015 look like?) Western instability during the conflict leads to the attack in 2015. WWIII is very short with a longer period of mop up.
Yes, there are unusual events in 2012 but they do not cause the world to end. Perhaps you are familiar with the story of the Red Sea and the Egyptians?
(Does the events happening in the Middle east concerning the Arabs and Jews have anything to do with the coming war? ) Yes. The Jewish population in Israel is not prepared for a true offensive war. They are prepared for the ultimate defense. Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel's neighbors the confidence to attack. The last resort for a defensive Israel and its offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction. In the grand scheme of things, the war in the Middle East is a part of what's to come, not the cause.
Real disruptions in world events begin with the destabilization of the West as a result of degrading US foreign policy and consistency.
The West will become very unstable which gives China the confidence to "expand".
I just saw another story today about the Russians moving Nukes into the Balkans to thwart any future expansion by NATO.
Are any of you familiar with the Russian partisan movement in WWII?
The (Russian) attack on Europe is in response to a unified European army that masses and moves East from Germany.
Russia's enemy in the United States is not you, the average person. Russia's enemy is the United States government.
The "enemy" that was attacked by Russia in the U.S. was the forces of the government you live under right now.
I know exactly where I was and every detail of the exact moment the first nuclear warheads began falling on Jacksonville.
In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States, (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective). The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we won.
In the opening hours of N Day, the Russians did not launch any high altitude detonations. They knew we would most likely clean up after them so they wanted everyone outside the cities to be able to communicate. Most of the warheads that hit the cities came in threes and exploded close to the ground.
Please be aware that from my viewpoint, Russia attacked my enemy who was in the U.S. cities. If you push a farmer too far, they stop growing food and have nothing to do but hide in the woods and shoot back. Their goal was to maintain power and control over other people. We killed most of them by 2020.
(Was alot of the United States' 18-24 age group slaughtered in the war because of Draft?) Yes.
It's hard to say what the exact racial make up of the U.S. is. I would say it's probably the same minus 130 million people or so.
Yes, Europe is a mess. The European Union was destroyed.
(Can you at least tell us which cities will be nuked?) No I won't do that. However, I submit to you that when the moment comes it will be absolutely plain as day that you are unsafe in the cities. The millions people that stay will choose to stay. That's what comes as a surprise.
(What is the specific Date that the Nuclear war starts? If you can't remember the exact date, could you put the month at least? An estimate!) I remember the exact date. When it comes, it will not be a surprise.
