the comcast regime wants to impose data caps

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Data Caps May Be Comcast's Response To Proposed Net Neutrality Rules - Technology News - redOrbit

Those who use massive amounts of data will simply have to pay more. That is in essence what Comcast told its customers on Thursday. The nation’s largest Internet service provider (ISP) and cable giant also responded to the Federal Communications Communication’s (FCC) net neutrality proposal – and the two events could be closely tied together.


Comcast is currently seeking the FCC’s approval for its $45-billion buyout of Time Warner Cable, a move that would make the Philadelphia-based company the most dominant provider in the United States with more than 30 million cable TV, and high-speed Internet customers across the country – including top markets such as New York, Los Angeles and Chicago.


“Comcast remains committed to a free and open Internet and [is] working with the FCC on appropriate rules for all players across the industry,” Comcast Executive Vice President David L. Cohen wrote Thursday in a blog post.


The other take away on this is that Comcast’s Cohen, speaking at the Moffett Nathanson Media & Communications Summit on Wednesday in New York, suggested that within five years all Comcast customers could once again have monthly bandwidth caps imposed on home broadband usage.
Cohen, however, suggested that most users would not use up the allotment and have to pay more.


“I would also predict that the vast majority of our customers would never be caught in the buying the additional buckets of usage, that we will always want to say the basic level of usage at a sufficiently high level that the vast majority of our customers are not implicated by the usage-based billing plan,” Cohen said in a statement as reported by Digital Trends. “And that number may be 350 — that may be 350 gig a month today, it might be 500 gig a month in five years, but it will never — I don’t think we will want to be in a model where it is fully variablized and 80% of our customers are implicated by usage-based billing and are all buying different packets of usage.”


According to reports, Comcast is currently running several pilot projects in select markets in the United States to test its bandwidth caps. These include options that allow users to combine download speeds with bandwidth caps, and the higher the speed the higher the bandwidth cap.




In another test case, one that Comcast executives prefer, all users would have 300GB per month of data – and the company would charge $10 for every extra 50GB used after that. These test cases are not actually new, as PC World reports the cap pilot projects have been ongoing since 2012.



Comcast didn’t provide an option for ultra high-usage customers, and instead those who went over limits received warnings. Too many warnings and users face seeing their account suspended for a year. The Internet and cable provider also experimented with bandwidth throttling for heavy users in 2009, PC World reported.


This move could be most worrisome to those so-called “cord cutters” – users who opt to ditch cable TV for streaming services such as Netflix and Hulu.


Forbes contributor Amadou Diallo, a self-proclaimed cord cutter, did note that the vast majority of cable customers fall far below a 300GB threshold, and that an FCC study conducted in 2012 found that a typical consumption rate is around 40GB per month..


However, for those cutting the cord, they may be faced with paying more to watch video content via streaming services. Diallo noted, “The upcoming onslaught of 4K streaming options will only increase data usage.”


According to a new Sandvine study, cord cutters are in fact using more Internet data than other users. The study found that in North America those subscribers who exhibit cord cutting, are dominating network usage – consuming on average 212GB a month, more than seven times the 29GB of data a typical subscriber uses. That is equal to 100 hours of video each month.


The Sandvine study also found that streaming video content now accounts for the majority (54 percent) of total monthly network traffic
 
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Cable companies are hands down the shittiest companies I've ever dealt with. I've never felt like sueing the shit out of someone like I have with them. Fake fuckin promotions, rebates you are promised but never get, retarded customer service, refurbished cable boxes that NEVER work the way they should despite replacing them 5 times only to get ANOTHER fucking refurb every fucking time. Kill yourself comcast
 
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I have Cox Cable and they give me 350GB a month for the 50mbp/s speed I pay for. Slower speeds with Cox only get 250GB a month.

Do I ever use anywhere near 350GB a month? No not even close. Is it bullshit that I have a cap at all? Yup, some old bullshit.

I don't get why they act like it's a problem, when no problem exists. Every single one of their users, all of the millions can be straight up bandwidth hogs with downloading, gaming etc. all at once and we will never even come close to using even a tiny percentage of these companies bandwidth capabilities. Just a reason for them to squeeze more money out of people for no reason what so ever.

Can't wait until Google Fiber makes it's way to Phoenix.
 

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I have Cox Cable and they give me 350GB a month for the 50mbp/s speed I pay for. Slower speeds with Cox only get 250GB a month.

Do I ever use anywhere near 350GB a month? No not even close. Is it bullshit that I have a cap at all? Yup, some old bullshit.

I don't get why they act like it's a problem, when no problem exists. Every single one of their users, all of the millions can be straight up bandwidth hogs with downloading, gaming etc. all at once and we will never even come close to using even a tiny percentage of these companies bandwidth capabilities. Just a reason for them to squeeze more money out of people for no reason what so ever.

Can't wait until Google Fiber makes it's way to Phoenix.
I have Cox cable too and I hate them with a passion and the feeling is mutual I'm sure lol
in March, my internet was down for a WEEK. called tech support 10 times, had 7 tech's come out. nobody could solve the problem. finally a 2 tech supe's come out and the issue only because of MY RECOMMENDATION that cable port outside blew out! I was so pissed I wrote a letter to the CEO and I got 2 months free of internet.
 
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I have Cox cable too and I hate them with a passion and the feeling is mutual I'm sure lol
in March, my internet was down for a WEEK. called tech support 10 times, had 7 tech's come out. nobody could solve the problem. finally a 2 tech supe's come out and the issue only because of MY RECOMMENDATION that cable port outside blew out! I was so pissed I wrote a letter to the CEO and I got 2 months free of internet.
Yeah I can't stand Cox. Had Cox at my last place, nothing but constant outages and billing mistakes so I switched to Century Link DSL and it was great, never had one single outage and the price was a lot better.

Moved to my current place and found out after I moved in that they have a contract with Cox and we're only allowed to get Cox internet service. Pissed me off.

It works better than it did at my last place except for every couple of days they'll have random hour long outages and my bill is still always messed up.

What I don't understand though is how they have a contract with my apartment complex, but we as residents of the apartment complex don't receive any kind of discounts. Cox must just give my complex some money to hold a monopoly and my complex says fuck the residents.
 
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i had cox and ran a ftp 10 years ago. monthly usage averaged 650 gb/month sometimes it was 700. they never told me to stop using too much bandwith. the modem got replaced 3 times in 6 years but that was the only time i needed any of the cable companys help


this latest scehme by comcast is yet another extortion attempt. how many billions of dollars a year does the regime rake in. i mean they could easily afford to subsidize the never ending annual price hikes. regimes like comcast and at&t advertise the special promo price of $29 a month or some shit. then the taxes and fees add on another $15 or so. on top of that bullshit u gotta go thru a credit check just to qualify for the overpriced extortion known as internet service


tethering the smartphone speeds are like 300k/sec for download. the data dont count to the $35 monthly prepaid plan i got. total cost to set up the internet was $20 to pay for the alcatel phone. i know nthe at&t regime is the cell phone provider and thats ok. at least i aint gettin extorted by the cable monopoly regime
 
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i had cox and ran a ftp 10 years ago. monthly usage averaged 650 gb/month sometimes it was 700. they never told me to stop using too much bandwith.
Cox, like all these other companies just started capping data a couple of years ago.

If you go over they send you a letter saying to knock it off. If you go over again they threaten to shut your account off.
 

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That's what happens when you have for-profit monopolies operating under the conditions of free market capitalism. And it's going to get worse.

Even if most people do not use 350GB a month, many in fact do, and need them, plus a lot more.

This seriously hurts:

1) People who do not own a TV, and are getting their news through online video and are watching sports etc. through streaming P2P services.

2) People who do a lot of file sharing

3) Professionals who work from home and do a lot of download/upload/backing up of large work-related files on a cloud.

And many others, who do not conform to the standard model of the "content consumer" that they are trying to establish - people who watch and listen to whatever the corporate overlords have determined they should watch and happily pay for it.

It's not just that this will put more money in their pockets, it will also change people's behavior further in that direction
 

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The more I think about this, the more I get mad.

I happen to work with large datasets a lot. A popular example is this:

RNAseq | 1000 Genomes

The raw data is about 3TB. So if you really wanted to do something with it, but are not affiliated with a large university that has really good internet and a dedicated cluster, and you happen to live in an area where Comcast is a monopoly, you will have to pay them ((3000-350)/50)*10 = $530 just to download the data... That's just absurd
 

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But 44Mbps is really not that fast - it's good for most practical purposes, but it is still a long way from a gigabit connection, which is what should be becoming the standard in the near future. But instead of investing in that as the rest of the world, ISPs in the US will be implementing caps...