Pacquiao vs Bradley the rematch [April 12th]
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A lot of people had the opinion that Pac was robbed when he fought Bradley. What side of the fence where you on?
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Real deal? I'm guessing VADA takes more blood more frequently? And doesn't take bribes??
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VADA is better because they use carbon isotope ratio testing with every screening. This is what detects synthetic testosterone, or TRT. USADA Only uses CIR testing when testers suspect from other indicators a presence of synthetic testosterone. As a result, athletes and trainers who understand the limitations of this testing can �"microdose�" with synthetic testosterone in order to avoid triggering a CIR test.
This is why Lamont Peterson was busted through VADA.
In otherwords, USADA does not use CIR testing unless some kind of drug raises eyebrows then they use CIR. VADA is the only organization that does CIR testing on every athlete they test.
Further, USADA has a couple of strange black eyes in the boxing world. First, Winky Wright asked for USADA testing against Peter Quillin about a month before their fight. USADA agreed and took blood and urine samples from both fighters. Just days before the fight USADA suddenly announced they didn't feel they had adequate time to testthe fighters and destroyed the samples and tests. This is extremely odd for two reasons - 1. they knew exactly how much time they had when they agreed (and accepted money) and 2. they destroyed the samples and tests results even though their own policy states the samples cannot and will not be destroyed for a min of six years.
The second case was the fuckery that occurred with Erik Morales vs Danny Garcia. Two days before the fight word leaked to the media that Morales had tested positive for Clenbuterol. "Initially, the public was led to believe by the promotion that only Morales’s “A” sample had tested positive and there was a need for his “B” sample to be tested (which couldn’t be done until after the fight). Then it was learned that Morales had been tested on two occasions earlier in the month and, each time, both his “A” and “B” samples had tested positive. Despite that revelation, Garcia vs. Morales II was allowed to take place." So instead of telling the NY commission to not allow the fight to go on, they "informed them that there might be a violation". Then 5 months later they concluded he cheated when clearly they knew this as soon as his B sample tested positive.
This is why Lamont Peterson was busted through VADA.
In otherwords, USADA does not use CIR testing unless some kind of drug raises eyebrows then they use CIR. VADA is the only organization that does CIR testing on every athlete they test.
Further, USADA has a couple of strange black eyes in the boxing world. First, Winky Wright asked for USADA testing against Peter Quillin about a month before their fight. USADA agreed and took blood and urine samples from both fighters. Just days before the fight USADA suddenly announced they didn't feel they had adequate time to testthe fighters and destroyed the samples and tests. This is extremely odd for two reasons - 1. they knew exactly how much time they had when they agreed (and accepted money) and 2. they destroyed the samples and tests results even though their own policy states the samples cannot and will not be destroyed for a min of six years.
The second case was the fuckery that occurred with Erik Morales vs Danny Garcia. Two days before the fight word leaked to the media that Morales had tested positive for Clenbuterol. "Initially, the public was led to believe by the promotion that only Morales’s “A” sample had tested positive and there was a need for his “B” sample to be tested (which couldn’t be done until after the fight). Then it was learned that Morales had been tested on two occasions earlier in the month and, each time, both his “A” and “B” samples had tested positive. Despite that revelation, Garcia vs. Morales II was allowed to take place." So instead of telling the NY commission to not allow the fight to go on, they "informed them that there might be a violation". Then 5 months later they concluded he cheated when clearly they knew this as soon as his B sample tested positive.
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Also, USADA is about 5x more expensive (often $100,000) than VADA. So it's odd that certain promoters, mainly Golden Boy, absolutely refuse to work with VADA after two of their fighters were popped by them (Peterson and Berto). I personally think it has to do with the fact that USADA will only inform the promoters when a fighter is tested dirty, whereas VADA informs the promoters, the fighter and the commission. The latter has resulted in the cancellation of fights.
This was really brought to light when Paulie Malignaggi specifically requested VADA testing against Adrien Broner. “I wanted VADA testing,” Malignaggi recalls. “And I was told, ‘No, we won’t do VADA. If you insist on VADA, there won’t be a fight.’ Finally, I said, ‘F— it. I’m getting seven figures. I’ll go ahead and fight.’ Would I have been more confident that Broner was clean if there had been VADA testing? Absolutely.”
Paulie wanted VADA because of the Broner vs DeMarco testing by USADA, or specifically the lack of testing. Even though USADA testing was in the contract, requested by DeMarco, neither fighter was tested. "I had heard stuff about what had happened in the DeMarco fight, where they were going to test him and didn’t test and all this stuff,” Malignaggi said on Friday. “I had really pushed for VADA testing in the beginning of the negotiations. They said ‘No, it’s not going to happen.’ So when I had to settle for USADA and it didn’t happen, I was like, ‘What’s going on?’
This was really brought to light when Paulie Malignaggi specifically requested VADA testing against Adrien Broner. “I wanted VADA testing,” Malignaggi recalls. “And I was told, ‘No, we won’t do VADA. If you insist on VADA, there won’t be a fight.’ Finally, I said, ‘F— it. I’m getting seven figures. I’ll go ahead and fight.’ Would I have been more confident that Broner was clean if there had been VADA testing? Absolutely.”
Paulie wanted VADA because of the Broner vs DeMarco testing by USADA, or specifically the lack of testing. Even though USADA testing was in the contract, requested by DeMarco, neither fighter was tested. "I had heard stuff about what had happened in the DeMarco fight, where they were going to test him and didn’t test and all this stuff,” Malignaggi said on Friday. “I had really pushed for VADA testing in the beginning of the negotiations. They said ‘No, it’s not going to happen.’ So when I had to settle for USADA and it didn’t happen, I was like, ‘What’s going on?’
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TIMOTHY BRADLEY WANTS TO HURT OR DROP PACQUIAO FOR A DECISIVE VICTORY IN REMATCH
JOEL DIAZ SAYS BRADLEY'S FOOTWORK AND IMPROVED POWER WILL FRUSTRATE PACQUIAO IN REMATCH
JOEL DIAZ SAYS BRADLEY'S FOOTWORK AND IMPROVED POWER WILL FRUSTRATE PACQUIAO IN REMATCH
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