But look what happened tho, he got popped by Martinez real nasty and people started talking Martinez vs Floyd. Why didn't that happen? So you are also telling me Williams was feared by Floyd as well? Rosado himself said after the fight with GGG that the punches he received were very powerful, while Rosado had Quillin going backwards for most of the fight. Even Rosado's corner was like, "he's (GGG) gonna kill him!" You don't think GGG is gonna move up in weight in his future? He's gonna move up and down when he wants to, just like Floyd
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Again, we all saw the fight no need to pretend like we didn't. The fight was stopped due to a cut.
Against GGG his corner thought he was literally going to die.
P-Will was a fucking giant bigger than most Super Middleweights at 6'2.
The people who have ducked Golovkin are facts, it's documented. This isn't some lets hype him up bullshit.
Facts:
-Felix Sturm paid the WBA $750,000 to not fight GGG, who was his mandatory for two years.
-Daniel Geale was stripped of his title for not fighting GGG, his mandatory.
-N'dam was ordered to fight GGG on three separate occasions, he didn't show up any times and was stripped his intern title.
Sergio gets a pass, I think, cuz of his injuries. Chavez has had no reason to fight GGG yet. Quillin was offered a fight prior to the fued and rejected it. Now there is a network fued nothing we can do about that. Pirog was/is injured and pulled out of fight.
Against GGG his corner thought he was literally going to die.
P-Will was a fucking giant bigger than most Super Middleweights at 6'2.
The people who have ducked Golovkin are facts, it's documented. This isn't some lets hype him up bullshit.
Facts:
-Felix Sturm paid the WBA $750,000 to not fight GGG, who was his mandatory for two years.
-Daniel Geale was stripped of his title for not fighting GGG, his mandatory.
-N'dam was ordered to fight GGG on three separate occasions, he didn't show up any times and was stripped his intern title.
Sergio gets a pass, I think, cuz of his injuries. Chavez has had no reason to fight GGG yet. Quillin was offered a fight prior to the fued and rejected it. Now there is a network fued nothing we can do about that. Pirog was/is injured and pulled out of fight.
Probably because Martinez is a tru Middleweight and Mayweather is a tru Welterweight. I dont think Mayweather has ever fought a Middleweight. I mean Canelo should be a middleweight but thats another discussion. Also if they did fight obviously it would either be at a catchweight or at the least Martinez would have to come down to 152-154. Then I can just hear it the excuses about Martinez being drained lol. Floyd couldnt even get up to 152 let alone 154 lol. Mayweather has to walk on fire rocks barefooted to please the haters lol. Got Em!!
But if Mayweather decided to fight for the 154 titles then anyone that fights from 160 on down is eligible to fight Floyd right? I understand what you are saying but that's why a lot of boxing fans criticize Floyd for picking and choosing his opponents. When you go to the pool do you test the waters to see if the water contains any STD's? cuz it seems like Floyd does
Dude boxing fans dont criticize Floyd just the haterz. Floyd has fought everyone there is to fight if the fight was able to be made. One guy everyone said he wouldnt fight Canelo, he did indeed fight and beat the shit out of him and folks still hate. I dont know what u dont understand? I already said that if he fought Martinez that he would have to come down to atleast 154 but Im sure if that happened and Floyd beat his ass, then people will just say that Martinez was drained so Floyd cant win regardless. Haters just keep hating on the G.O.A.T. Im sure hes used to it by now. Got Em!!
Its not haters, it's boxing fans. 2-0-Sixx is not a hater of Floyds but he sounds like it when he exposes Floyds hypocrisy. A lot of boxing journalists don't even have Floyd as a top 10 all time! I believe the WBC is going to make Floyd drop either his 147 or 154 titles, which one do you think he's gonna drop? not the 147 that's for sure
Lol. You and 206 both don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You guys both talk in circles and I expose both of you guys double standards all the same time. Mayweather is a 5 division champion dick head. He only fights at 154lb for super big money fights. Oscar 2.4 million PPV, Canelo 2.2 million PPV, Cotto 1.5 million PPV. You see the pattern if Mayweather stands to make a shit load of money then he will fight above 147lb.
Mayweather is one of the GOATS like it or not. Roy Jones Jr, Sugar Ray, Ray Robinson, Chavez Sr, Oscar, and etc.. were wash the fuck up and shot to shit by 36 years old but yet Mayweather is still P4P number 1 and fight at an elite level still. Just stop the bullshit already Mayweather is the real deal.
Mayweather is one of the GOATS like it or not. Roy Jones Jr, Sugar Ray, Ray Robinson, Chavez Sr, Oscar, and etc.. were wash the fuck up and shot to shit by 36 years old but yet Mayweather is still P4P number 1 and fight at an elite level still. Just stop the bullshit already Mayweather is the real deal.
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A lot? I've never seen Floyd in the top ten ever. Not a knock on floyd but the resume of the guys in the top 10 are crazy. Floyds career isn't over of course.
Anyways, when people say All Time Greats they typically mean top 100. Floyd, Hopkins and Pacquiao are all top 100, they are All Time Greats. No question. Most lists Ive seen have these three between 30-60.
Resume means a lot. How else can you be judged than by who you fought. Pernell Whitaker is probably the most skilled defensive fighter I've ever seen. But his resume isn't the greatest (which is why he would never be considered GOAT despite how awesome he was). Prime Roy Jones was probably the closest thing I've seen to an "unbeatable" fighter. But outside of beating a young Hopkins and prime James Toney, it gets a bit thin (although plenty of solid wins mixed the a lot of "meh" wins).
Floyd is still adding to his legacy, so who knows how high he can go. But as of right now his best wins are Castillo and Diego Corrales so it simply isn't possible to rank top 20 with his current resume. But Floyd has time to crack the top 20. It will be difficult just because at the moment it seems like a lack of quality opponents but it may be possible!
Anyways, when people say All Time Greats they typically mean top 100. Floyd, Hopkins and Pacquiao are all top 100, they are All Time Greats. No question. Most lists Ive seen have these three between 30-60.
Resume means a lot. How else can you be judged than by who you fought. Pernell Whitaker is probably the most skilled defensive fighter I've ever seen. But his resume isn't the greatest (which is why he would never be considered GOAT despite how awesome he was). Prime Roy Jones was probably the closest thing I've seen to an "unbeatable" fighter. But outside of beating a young Hopkins and prime James Toney, it gets a bit thin (although plenty of solid wins mixed the a lot of "meh" wins).
Floyd is still adding to his legacy, so who knows how high he can go. But as of right now his best wins are Castillo and Diego Corrales so it simply isn't possible to rank top 20 with his current resume. But Floyd has time to crack the top 20. It will be difficult just because at the moment it seems like a lack of quality opponents but it may be possible!
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Paul Williams was feared by everyone. It's funny that you and 206 love to talk about Mayweathers resume full of wins over HOFers, champions, and P4P elite, but you dickride GGG to no end with his weak ass resume full of bums. That's just weird and funny to me.
But to answer your question not really I don't think Mr. Avoided will be moving up anytime soon as long as he has dumbasses like you and 206 to praise him for fighting bums, he will stay at 160lb until GBP makes him move up.
But to answer your question not really I don't think Mr. Avoided will be moving up anytime soon as long as he has dumbasses like you and 206 to praise him for fighting bums, he will stay at 160lb until GBP makes him move up.
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you said Williams was feared by everyone at 147, meaning from Manny to Floyd they all avoided him too right? There is a fight that can generate more money than Canelo vs Floyd and we all know what that fight is so moving up in weight for a "big money fight" is like saying Floyd is ducking the best at 147 and agreeing that GGG will move up or down in weight when the money is right for him. Generating the most attention doesn't mean you are the best fighter nor you are fighting the best. Now, there is Manny, Bradley, and a stronger Marquez that can really give Floyd problems as far as punishment to his body and head and even be bigger fights than the one with Canelo! but he decided to go with weak ass Showtime and isolate himself from the competition for the money. Nothing wrong with him getting his money, but now we won't see him fight the best
Manny wasent at 147 yet when paul was kicking ass in that division..in that time 147 was on fire full with heavy hitters.thats when void retired after beating midget no reach hatton.right now 147 is weak why u think void fighting six times for showtime..dont trip homie the whole boxing world knows what floyd about
If GGG wants to fight Floyd he can move down to 154. Floyd is not a true welterweight imo. That would be retarded for him to move up to 160. GGG wouldnt win that fight. Floyd would pick him apart easily and I like GGG. Sergio should be the one to fight GGG though.
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Haye Advised To Retire After Surgery, Fury Fight Off
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By Terence Dooley
David Haye and Eddie Hearn have confirmed that the "Hayemaker" will not face Tyson Fury at the Phones 4U Arena in Manchester on February 8 after undergoing a five hour shoulder surgery in Germany on Thursday to repair a ruptured right subscapularis and bicep tendon attachments.* Haye had his shoulder reconstructed, according to his official website, and has been advised to consider drawing a line under his professional boxing career.
“I genuinely believed the shoulder injury wasn't that bad,” said Haye. “But the doctor sent me for a detailed MRI scan and within 24 hours I was told the full extent of the damage. Twenty-four hours after that I was in the operating theatre.
“It's a crushing blow for me. I had big plans for next year and the ultimate goal was to win back the world heavyweight title, something my amazing fans deserve. What I didn't anticipate was that this year would be the unluckiest of my career and that a number of injuries would disrupt my plans so much. Perhaps it just wasn't meant to be. The boxing Gods keep hinting that maybe enough is enough and that it's time to finally hang up my gloves.”
“The surgery and subsequent results are a bitter pill to swallow because I truly felt I had a lot more to offer and was looking forward to paying back my loyal fans with some great fights in 2014,” said Haye. “But I've been boxing for 23 years now, amateur and pro, and this has clearly taken its toll on my body. “I can only offer my sincerest apologies to all those fans who have followed me over the years and, like me, wanted to finish on a real high. This wasn't how I wanted to end 2013.
“If I'm now destined to have won the European Championship, the Unified World Cruiserweight Championship and the WBA Heavyweight Championship of the world - with a record of 28 fights, 26 wins, 24 victories coming via knockout and only two defeats - then so be it. I'm proud of these achievements and consider my boxing career a huge success.”
*** All fans with tickets to Haye vs. Fury on February 8 should go to their point of sale for a refund. Hayemaker Boxing apologise for the inconvenience caused ***
It now*leaves Tyson Fury, 21-0 (15), without an immediate opponent and in need of a fight as soon as possible so that he can kick on with his own career.
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By Terence Dooley
David Haye and Eddie Hearn have confirmed that the "Hayemaker" will not face Tyson Fury at the Phones 4U Arena in Manchester on February 8 after undergoing a five hour shoulder surgery in Germany on Thursday to repair a ruptured right subscapularis and bicep tendon attachments.* Haye had his shoulder reconstructed, according to his official website, and has been advised to consider drawing a line under his professional boxing career.
“I genuinely believed the shoulder injury wasn't that bad,” said Haye. “But the doctor sent me for a detailed MRI scan and within 24 hours I was told the full extent of the damage. Twenty-four hours after that I was in the operating theatre.
“It's a crushing blow for me. I had big plans for next year and the ultimate goal was to win back the world heavyweight title, something my amazing fans deserve. What I didn't anticipate was that this year would be the unluckiest of my career and that a number of injuries would disrupt my plans so much. Perhaps it just wasn't meant to be. The boxing Gods keep hinting that maybe enough is enough and that it's time to finally hang up my gloves.”
“The surgery and subsequent results are a bitter pill to swallow because I truly felt I had a lot more to offer and was looking forward to paying back my loyal fans with some great fights in 2014,” said Haye. “But I've been boxing for 23 years now, amateur and pro, and this has clearly taken its toll on my body. “I can only offer my sincerest apologies to all those fans who have followed me over the years and, like me, wanted to finish on a real high. This wasn't how I wanted to end 2013.
“If I'm now destined to have won the European Championship, the Unified World Cruiserweight Championship and the WBA Heavyweight Championship of the world - with a record of 28 fights, 26 wins, 24 victories coming via knockout and only two defeats - then so be it. I'm proud of these achievements and consider my boxing career a huge success.”
*** All fans with tickets to Haye vs. Fury on February 8 should go to their point of sale for a refund. Hayemaker Boxing apologise for the inconvenience caused ***
It now*leaves Tyson Fury, 21-0 (15), without an immediate opponent and in need of a fight as soon as possible so that he can kick on with his own career.