Police kill 13 year old boy

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This is probably what happened. It's a known sur hood.

Cops see dude in a blue sweater walking with a gun.

Like most kids he probably has his headphones in listening to music. Cops jump out of the car with guns drawn, he doesn't hear them at first then turns around, boom he's dead.
 
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not singlin you out breh cuz you are my homie, but answer me this. do you let stevie do the things we did as kids? cuz i know as young as i could i remember in the summertime, i was gone basically from sun up to sun down. if i wasnt gonna be home by dark all i had to do was call. i know for a fact my kid aint gonna have the freedoms i had growin up. this falls in the same category. hell yeah i played cops and robbers throughout the whole neighborhood, granted i was lucky enough to grow up in one of the best parts of vallejo. im still the same area and my son isnt walkin around out front with any kind of gun. we shoot the bb gun and shit in the back yard and knows the rights and wrongs with guns.

tl;dr,

growing up today sucks compared to our genereation.
nah you got a point breh, i cant even argue that.
 
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A sheriff's deputy mistakenly thought he saw a teen carrying an assault rifle on a California street this week and shot him dead, authorities said.
It turned out the 13-year-old boy was carrying two fake guns, a replica AK-47 and a fake pistol, the Santa Rosa County Sheriff's office said. The Tuesday shooting is being investigated, the sheriff's office said.
School officials in the northern California city of Santa Rosa identified the teen as Andy Lopez Cruz.
"The Santa Rosa City School District family is deeply saddened by the loss of Andy Lopez Cruz," a school system statement said. "This is a tragic event for family, schools and the community. His administrators and teachers will remember him as kind, intelligent and capable."

Two Sonoma County deputies spotted the boy holding what appeared to be an assault rifle Tuesday afternoon, the Santa Rosa County Sheriff's office said. They pulled over "but maintained cover behind their open passenger door," the press release said.
They yelled at the teen to put the weapon down. He had his back to them and began turning around toward the officers, the statement said.
"One of the deputies described that as the subject was turning toward him the barrel of the assault rifle was rising up and turning in his direction. The deputy feared for his safety, the safety of his partner, and the safety of the community members in the area," the statement said.

A deputy shot the teen. The teen was handcuffed, and the officers called for an ambulance, the statement said. Deputies found the fake rifle on the ground near the boy. The bogus handgun was tucked in his waistband.
Ismael Mondragon said he was in front of the sheriff's cruiser at a stop sign when he saw Cruz with the replica. Mondragon told CNN he warned the teen, "Put that thing away. The police are here," but got no response.
Mondragon said he went through the stop sign and saw the sheriff's car pull over behind him. Within seconds, he said, he heard shots fired and saw the teen fall.
Cruz's classmates were saddened by the news, Lawrence Cook Middle School Assistant Principal Linsey Gannon told CNN affiliate KRON.
"He was a very popular student," Gannon told the affiliate. "He was a handsome young man with many friends and a lovely family. He will be missed."
Late Wednesday, a crowd gathered in the dirt field where the boy was shot, to hold a memorial that turned into a rally against police shootings, CNN affiliate KGO reported. In the crowd was Cruz's mother who said she was too grief-stricken to talk, KGO reported.

Family friend Gabriel Roque said she was outraged.
"He was a 13-year-old boy who was no harm to anybody. This was not a grown man walking down the street with a gun," she told the affiliate. "He was a 13-year-old little boy, you could just tell him to put it down."


Deputy kills 13-year-old carrying fake rifle - CNN.com



 
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im glad you survived them drive-bys player, but that dont help the "be scared of police" argument. i doubt any of those drive-bys were by the cops.


and its relevant when so many people think the cops are the ones to be scared of. there are punk ass pigs in the police department. not all the cops are pigs, but there are mos def some punk pigs in the police department. however, when i have to walk to the store, or drive late pm/early am, im honestly not worried bout no cop. where i stay, i'd bet most people arent scared of a crazed gunmen pulling a shooting spree either. theres gunmen walking/driving around all day to be worried about. waaaaay more than there are actual police officers. the whole "be scared of police/fuck the police" mind state in rampant over here, but it looks stupid as fuck when 99.999999999% of the big amount of violent crime done is not by a cop. you aint teachin the kids shit with that mind state, your just keepin the cycle going and putting their safety priorites in a fucked up order. my mom and my little cousin both been (violently) mugged. my dad, uncle and little cousin all been robbed at gun point. i know a lot of people who arent here anymore, and none of those incidents were by a police officer.
Its not a mentality that someone should be scared of the police. I have weapons I have that right thanks to 2nd Amendment in the Constitution. I fear no man in the streets or in my home- because I have a right to self defense. Unfortunately, even though I should based on the rule of law, those same rights do not carry over during an interaction with law enforcement. Someone on the street or in my home starts some funk, I know I have the right to defend myself. Law enforcement pulls a gun on me and it is unpredictable what the outcome will be because they have a badge that covers they ass and if I shoot a cop I am a dead man. They have the media and propaganda on their side to sway public opinion against me at the push of a button. I don't have to worry about the next man setting me up because I don't put myself in those situations, but I always have to worry about a law enforcement officer because they are an unknown and have the so called law on their side. Officer aka overseer is still alive and well in this day and age and any every day person regardless of their color or creed can be stripped of their life as it is and placed in a cell or a casket. My 14 y.o. daughter witnessed the Cali pigs last year mix me up with a bank robber who shot a cop. These mufuqas wanted blood and six of those mufuqas including the seargent wanted blood. What saved my ass that my weapon was not on me at the time as I carry 99% of the time and was screaming that my daughter was in the vehicle. I had to give up my right to not give them my DNA just to ensure they did not take me away and send my daughter to child services, for fear it would be a mufuqa to find her and get her back even tho I did nothing wrong. I have the police report, shit aint fake, this is how they do mufuqas, unfortunately they do alot of people much worse and I have known a few. My daughter hates police now, she didn't believe me before that the police are dirty and will set us up, of course I never told her about the other time the PHX PD almost killed my ass or another time when they beat me up cuz some crazy bitch said I vandalized her property when I didn't. Fuq the police, that brainwash serve and protect shit don't work on me, I know too much and seen it. This is not the movies, this is real life, and we don't believe their fairy tales. Again, back to the subject, a child was murdered by the police for a toy gun.
 
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exact reason why nobody should walk around with a toy gun.child or adult,even if it has that big orange shit in the front.don't give them the excuse to murder you.
Yes and no. A toy gun is not illegal unless you are using it to commit a crime. This was a child not a grown man. The police murdered a child over a toy gun. We need to stop giving the police an exception to murder our children over toy guns.
 
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that gun in the picture above dont look like no toy. ill tell you another thing, if i was to ever drive up and see my son out front with that gun and another fake pistol in his waistband, the cops might have to deal with me, cuz im kickin his ass. not saying the kid deserved to be shot at all, but why put yourself in that position? i blame the parents just as much as the cops...
 
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Its not a mentality that someone should be scared of the police.
i feel you, in your case. but it definitely is a mentality that people should be scared of police. it pops up all the time when the police kill someone. and it pops up all the time in some communities, just cus its a mentality.

i have a 14 year old daughter. i tell her about how much cops can be asses, but i let her know that dont go for all cops and some are actually good. i dont want her growing up having to look over her shoulder for police when im trying to teach her to look over her shoulder for people who really do not give a fuck about or respect human life.

as far as you fearing no man in the streets, that dont mean shit when the biggest predator in this country is your own kind, not no cop.
 

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some of you are acting like the kid was shot holding a snickers bar and the cop mistook it for a gun....yet he was walking around with an AK and a pistol ...you just dont do that, sure its your right as a citizen but your're really asking for problems...

if the kid had some sense it would have never been outside to begin with...bad parenting
if the kid would have dropped the gun immediately after being confronted by the cops and not turning around with it still in his hand...a red flag in his mind should have went up ..but again, he was young and probably wasnt taught

i refer back to my previous question

if you saw this kid walking down the block with what looked like an AK and a pistol in his waist..do you approach him? do you hope he isnt on some ol mental shit where he's about to unload ?what do you do?
 
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Well whether or not the gun was fake, the cop thought it was. But it all boils down to what the cop was willing to do to save his own life in this situation.

But the problem i have with it is that knowing how the sherrifs around here are and im guessing they werent responding to a serious call or anything, they were probably driving around and stumbled across him. I honestly feel like if the cop was that scared he could have took cover behind his car n called for backup. Ur job description isnt to wait until u get shot to shoot back oviously but cmon now, there were no bullets fired before or after u arrived, grow some fucking nuts like a cop who actually protects and serves his community and do something so "dangerous" as to run to your car and wait for backup and make sure ur not shooting a mentally ill person or deaf person or hey a child. He was just too quick to save his own ass when it
 
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Reports are now one cops has 24 year of exp and the second cop was a new hire in training but has 11 years of exp.

Also one cop shit this boy 7 times and the 8th bullet missed. The other didnt fire his weapon.
 
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lol @ "confronting" the cops. again, this was a like a 5 second exchange in which they said something to him, and he turned towards them and they fired. that was it. he didnt run up on them or stand them down.
 

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lol @ "confronting" the cops. again, this was a like a 5 second exchange in which they said something to him, and he turned towards them and they fired. that was it. he didnt run up on them or stand them down.
he turned and faced them with the "AK" still in hand..who knows how he swung it or where it was pointing...you can never tell what someone is thinking...the kid should have dropped it immediately ...
 
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he turned and faced them with the "AK" still in hand..who knows how he swung it or where it was pointing...you can never tell what someone is thinking...the kid should have dropped it immediately ...
Yes he should have dropped it, but there are certain situations where when shit happens hella fast and unexpected where ur brain straight freezes up.

Last year, i drive up to some friends' houses up in cloverdale. I park in the driveway and walk up n say whats up to my boy on the porch. As im talking to him, i hear some yelling coming from the next house over and i say "damn what the hell are your neighbors screaming about? I turn around and see a silver car pull up, and 2 people in all black hop out guns drawn yelling freeze hands up! I put my hands up pretty quick but i see my boy is just standing there. As soon as i say "put ur hands up fool", we see about 30 cop cars pull up. Ive had guns pointed before but that many guns was fucking scary they probably had at least 10 pistols but hella m-16's, mp5's, ar15, riot shotguns n shit. They brought cloverdale pd, windsor pd, santa rosa pd, sonoma county sherrifs, there were people from the us marshalls and the fbi, and the swat team brought afucking tank lol. The tank was actually pretty sick we were askin srpd about it n they said yea its actually a converted tank, they bought it and put tires on it and the gun barrel is still on it but instead of shooting bullets they put this like 25ft long pole with a giant arrow thing on the end for ripping out walls. Everybody was actually pretty decent besides the sherriffs they did n said so many rediculously fucked up things that day

Anyways my point is it took my boy a little while to put his hands up and when i asked him why he said "i thought i mite hav been gettin robbed or killed, but most of all cuz it was so fuckin random and happened so fast". It did happen hella fast it really was like something out a movie... And btw there are hella people who try to brag about shit like this and i never understood that, this is nothing i would ever try to brag about, i did NOT like that shit at all and hope it never happens again lol. Fuckers said "crawl towards my voice" and made me scuff my jordans.

Cool story bro
 
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This is probably what happened. It's a known sur hood.

Cops see dude in a blue sweater walking with a gun.

Like most kids he probably has his headphones in listening to music. Cops jump out of the car with guns drawn, he doesn't hear them at first then turns around, boom he's dead.
Probably patrolling that area more now due to the surenos from AHTS and VSL been funking with each other
 
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You know what makes this even more sketch?

He wasn't on a main road pointing it at people. He was walking through a feild and that where he died. He posed no threat to anyone while walking through a empty field by himself.

I spent every summer on Moreland at my aunts house, my family been posted there for before I was born and even today they still live there

It's an industrial area w/ a hood between all that. It's train tracks, open fields and abandon buildings.

I can put money on it that this kid was probably being a kid and took out his friends BB gun to shoot shit in his hood while walking to his friends house. Cops rolled up and like I said before he had his iPod on, got spooked and the cops dumped I him when he turned around.
 
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This will all be covered up bc when scsd fucks up,the srpd comes in and cleans up.

Dash cams will not be reviewed and to top it off most people don't know but scsd cops have pov cams. Those wont be reviewed either.

A cop up here killed an old woman who had a colored water gun (not black) then got promoted and then killed 2 more people and is still roaming around. I've had run ins with said cop a few times and the first time he tryed to say I was a shooting suspect as I was smoking a cigg in my drive way, waiting for my gf.
 
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This cop is a know dirty cop, steals drugs, uses/sells said drugs and isknown a an upstanding citizen bc the scsd is so fucked up no one cares.

He also uses his free time beating handcuffed teenagers while using racial slurs and then dumping them in the cuts.
 
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