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heres what i was reading earlier

Seahawks’ offense is coming together

RENTON – Week-by-week, piece-by-piece, the Seahawks offense gets a little closer to becoming whole.

Sunday, it was center Max Unger who returned to help stabilize the line. Thursday, when the Seahawks play at Arizona, tight end Zach Miller is expected back after missing the past two games.

And soon, coach Pete Carroll said Monday, receiver Percy Harvin — the team’s prized offseason acquisition — will make his Seahawks debut.

Harvin, who had hip surgery Aug. 1, is eligible to come off the Physically Unable to Perform List. Carroll says Harvin won’t play Thursday and announced no set return date, but said the team is eager to get a look at him this week and see exactly where he is in his recovery.

“Everything is going great,’’ Carroll said. “And there have been really no setbacks and he is ahead of schedule in a number of areas and so we are excited to see what happens. ... I can’t tell you if that’s a month or three weeks, I don’t know. We’ll have to wait and see. But it’s really cool that we have a chance to bring him back now.’’

And eventually, tackles Breno Giacomini and Russell Okung are expected back. Giacomini is likely out a few more weeks with a knee injury and Okung is out until at least Nov. 17 with turf toe.

Only then — and assuming no setbacks along the way — will the offense the Seahawks envisioned truly be on display.

Even then, though, it might be unrealistic to expect the Seahawks to replicate the performance of last season when they scored 150 points in a three-game span — the third-most in NFL history.

It was those three games — including a 58-0 win over this week’s opponent, Arizona — that helped set high expectations for this season.

Even as perpetually optimistic as Carroll is, though, he said Monday he’s not sure Seattle fans will ever see that again.

“I don’t know if we will be able to reach the levels that we saw late last year where we were scoring points at a huge rate,’’ he said. “That was an enormous run that we had. But that’s good to expect that and I’d like to see that, too.’’

Carroll, though, says he’s more than satisfied with the recent performance, other than the five fumbles (two lost) in Sunday’s 20-13 win over the Titans.

Carroll said pass-blocking and the overall play of the offensive line was improved and that quarterback Russell Wilson turned in one of his best games.

“It just looked better, it looked cleaner,’’ Carroll said. “And I think it looked like we are making progress.’’

And as Carroll pointed out, statistically the Seattle offense hasn’t been all that bad.

Tennessee was the fifth defense Seattle has played this season that as of Monday ranks among the top 11 in the NFL in yards allowed (Houston is No. 1, Carolina No. 3, San Francisco No. 9 and Indianapolis No. 10. Seattle’s other opponent, Jacksonville, ranks 21st.)

And even though missing at least one projected starter in every game, the Seahawks rank 10th in total offense (372.7) per game) and second in rushing (157.7).

No doubt, Wilson has greatly aided the rushing numbers, gaining 294 yards on 5.9 per attempt, 240 yards coming in the past three games.

The passing attack has been more of a struggle, which the stats bear out — Seattle is 24th in the NFL at 215 yards per game. Still, Wilson has a passer rating of 92.6, which ranks 11th, and his average gain per attempt is 7.94, which ranks sixth.

“It’s nice to learn while you are winning,’’ Carroll said. “And I think that’s where we are and what we are hoping to continue.’’

• Carroll reiterated that he shouldn’t have called for a field goal on the last play of the first half with the team having to go with a backup kicker and holder due to the temporary absence of kicker Steven Hauschka (who was being tested for a concussion, which came back negative).
Holder Chris Maragos, a backup safety, fumbled, which was returned for Tennessee’s only touchdown. That play technically counted for two of Seattle’s five fumbles. Carroll joked that those fumbles were easy to prevent in the future saying “that ain’t happening again. ... that one I have already fixed.’’ Wilson is expected to be the backup holder in the future.

• The only player to suffer a significant injury Sunday was defensive end Chris Clemons (hyperextended elbow) and Carroll says he is unlikely to play this week.

• Carroll didn’t rule out that middle linebacker Bobby Wagner might make it back this week after sitting out Sunday with a high ankle sprain. “Bobby’s making progress that the trainers don’t even understand for the kind of sprain he had,’’ Carroll said. “So I don’t know what he’s going to do but he is up running around already on an ankle that should have taken longer than that, so we’ll see what happens.’’

Bob Condotta: 206-515-5699 or bcondotta[USER=2691]@Seattle[/USER]times.com.
 
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of all the injuries right now, Wagner should be the least of our worries. KJ did very well stepping in the middle this last Sunday.


Our O line gives me nightmares. We are terrible right now and getting Giacostrap back doesn't make me feel any better.

RW is the 7th most sacked QB in the league. I imagine he might be top 3 if he wasn't so mobile.

I said it last year, and then I got caught up in the moves we made, but I am saying it again this year.....the focus of our 2014 draft should be o line o line o line.
 
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we're terrible ... but last i checked we were 5-1 lol, so i think you just have unrealistic expectations

you cant score 50 points every single game
No one is saying we are terrible, but we are certainly playing with fire. The expectations going into this season was Superbowl, and right now,our offense isnt Superbowl material IMHO. Look at a team like Denver...they look poised to win it all.

If we want to impose our will against teams, the offense HAS to improve, becuase it pushes pressure on the opponents defense as well. Its exactly what the Oregon Ducks do..
 
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Well yeah but all drafted in the 7th round....
I see no issue with that. There are OL in the league that start, and weren't even drafted. OL are very hard to project. Look at both Carpenter and Moffitt...both were high draft picks and neither seem to be doing great. On the other hand, Okung was a first rounder and when he is healthy, he is the best LT in the game.

And to further that notion, projecting kids out of HS into college as OL is an even more wacky "science". The amount of 4 and 5* guys compared to 3* an even WALK-ONS that get drafted in the NFL draft is pretty astonishing. Wisconsin has made a killing off of 2* and walk on guys in terms of OL. Its pretty incredible.
 

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its too easy to attack the o line, because thats pretty much the only thing that isnt perfect. but okung and giacomini are both injured for awhile, so its going to take some time. zach miller was injured too, and he blocks like 75% of the time. by the time everyone is back, rice will be cut and harvin will be playing, and we might start seeing video game offensive numbers then, but dont count on seeing that today or for a month for that matter. this is the nfl, no ones perfect and injuries happen. theres nothing they can possibly do until those starters get back, teams attack that line like its a wounded animal because it is
 
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The offense will continue to get better. In the meantime since the o-line is so crappy I'd like to see more QUICK passes to negate the pass rush. Last week Wilson did that a couple times for good gains. Otherwise it's drop backs and Wilson running for his life everytime. Short quick passes I'd like to see moreof. Tate, Baldwin, Kearse quick slant routes, good for 5-10 yards a play maybe more with a guy like Tate if he breaks a tackle.
 

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thats what i figure theyll do. teams see the backup lineman as a weakness and attack it with relentless pressure. so i hope they use it to their advantage. let marshawn get a couple catches. let miller catch some in the middle of the field
 
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its too easy to attack the o line, because thats pretty much the only thing that isnt perfect. but okung and giacomini are both injured for awhile, so its going to take some time. zach miller was injured too, and he blocks like 75% of the time. by the time everyone is back, rice will be cut and harvin will be playing, and we might start seeing video game offensive numbers then, but dont count on seeing that today or for a month for that matter. this is the nfl, no ones perfect and injuries happen. theres nothing they can possibly do until those starters get back, teams attack that line like its a wounded animal because it is
Special teams hasn't necessarily been perfect either.

Its easy to "attack" the OL becuase on a supposed Super Bowl bound team, its a GLARING weakness. Football is won and lost int he trenches, and that is an absolute fact. You can have the greatest QB in the world, but if he has no time to throw...it does no one any good. Look at a guy like Mark Sanchez. He is a terrible QB. However, his OL and RB make him look ok, and the Jets were very successful with that combo. They started dumping guys on the OL, and what happened? Sanchez got exposed...and badly.

Giacomini is not a long term answer IMHO. He is serviceable for now, as is McQuiston at LT. But i agree with Mr. Nice Guy: I would like to see more OL come in next year. Sweezy has struggled MIGHTILY this year, and im a bit surprised he hasn't lost his spot to someone else. Every week he blows blocks multiple times. He is a great story, but he has a ways to go before he is ready to be consistent in the NFL. I like Bowie and I want to see more of Bailey, two rookies that show alot of promise.

Clemons is out this game, and our pass rush is fairly "meh" with him in there. Avril and Bennett seem to be the most consistent, but we need to find more ways to get our LB's involved in blitzing. Irvin "moved" to SLB this year, but again...he ends up missing for large chunks of the game. He needs to show why he was worth a first round draft pick.
 
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the expectations are so high ppl cant even enjoy the fact that we're 5-1

we were 4-12 not too long ago, then 5-11, 7-9, 7-9 lol. we're freaking 5-1 this year! no matter what ppl will complain. we could win the superbowl scoring 100 points and ppl would be mad they didnt get 150.

i think to make everyone happy they should start playing high school teams every week lol. since facing professional teams of the highest level isnt producing the expected results