Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero May 4th [confirmed]

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HERESY

HERESY

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2-0-Sixx said:
KO ratio, over an entire career, means little. Floyd has ONE real KO since 2005, thats 8 years. Ricky Hatton. We all know the Ortiz KO was a sucker punch (that Ortiz deserved 100%) and isn't a testament to Floyd's power.
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Again, we're comparing those two fighters and it means a lot when you're comparing those two fighters.

We don't all know the Ortiz punch was a sucker punch. The ref said time in, he said to box, the rule is to protect yourself at all times. Perfectly legal and well deserved. Ortiz had my blessings to beat the shit out of Floyd UNTIL he pulled that stunt.

Bernard Hopkins at middleweight had great power but he hasn't KOd anyone in 9 years! So what matters is recent fights, not entire career, when talking about KO power.
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Like I said before, Go back and look at the last five fights. Floyd has two. Ghost has how many?

Like I said neither Floyd nor Guerrero are big punchers. Maybe Floyd stops Guerrero because he's schooling his ass or his corner throws in the towel but its unlikely we'll see some kind of one.punch KO from either man as they just aren't heavy hitters like that.
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No one is saying they are heavy hitters. What I'm saying is Floyd can ko him and IS going to ko him.
 
2-0-Sixx

2-0-Sixx

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I do know the rules of the game and Guerrero didn't fight dirty.

Jack Johnson and Hopkins never fought dirty?! They used every dirty trick in the game, stuff that would make Guerrero blush.

What exactly did Guerrero do? Lead with his head? No he was fighting Berto in a phone booth and his head down. Nothing dirty there? A thumb in the eye? That happened once and that happens in fights. Hell, Hopkins caught Cloud in his last fight with a thumb, no complaints from you.

Hitting after the bell? That can be dirty depending on the circumstances. Hopkins hit Trinidad about 5 different times after the bell and that's considered a modern boxing clinic. No complaints.

Bottom line is Berto can't handle physical fighters, just as he couldn't handle Ortiz who bum rushed him at the start of the first bell. Berto has no idea how to handle it and he's folded the two times it did.
 
2-0-Sixx

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HERESY said:
We don't all know the Ortiz punch was a sucker punch. The ref said time in, he said to box, the rule is to protect yourself at all times. Perfectly legal and well deserved. Ortiz had my blessings to beat the shit out of Floyd UNTIL he pulled that stunt.
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Sucker punch probably isn't the right term since Ortiz deserved it and it's "protect yourself at all times" but you can go back and clearly see Ortiz wasn't looking and had no idea a two piece was coming towards his chin. Hell, even after the first punch he still wasn't looking.

So yeah, Floyd has one real legit KO in 8 years.

No one is saying they are heavy hitters. What I'm saying is Floyd can ko him and IS going to ko him.
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Ok that's fine. I just wouldn't use KO ratio as a way to back that up. If a KO happens it's probably going to be a stoppage i.e corner throwing in the towel, guerrero quits/takes a knee, cuts/swelling, etc.
 
CZAR

CZAR

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Just watched the Floyd/Dela Hoya fight and I didnt realize how cute Oscar's wife is. I havnt seen her in a while especially since he doesnt box anymore. She is nice though. Got Em!!
 
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Hollywood

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much props 707 if anyone has any other links that dont require to install nothing let me know everytime i go to first row i have trouble they want me to install player which never works
 
HIM

HIM

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HIM

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Love was aight, but Rosado deserved that win IMO...He was hungrier and outlasted Love..Love was pretty much holding and trying to rest in the last few rounds..
 
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