I mean u can dig deeper and break it down however u want to, but the Manny from the time frame I saw wasnt the same Manny after Cotto. He was seeking to destroy. He also wasnt waiting until half the round was over before he started fighting like has more recently. I dont know like I said it could be coincidence or maybe all the shit he is dealing with outside of boxing but thats how it is. Got Em!!
Pacquiao vs Marquez IV [Today]
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He wasn't as explosive against mosley or Bradley, but he certainly was on Saturday. Thats the only difference ive seen, was his lack of overrall intensity in two fights but again maybe some of that was the opponents (mosley on his backfoot, Bradley just an awkward style ), that and just getting older.
don't you think it has to do with the opponents? Think about it. From David Diaz, Oscar, Ricky Hatton & Cotto, to Clottey (never been KO'd), Margarito (iron face), Bradley (never KO'd), Mosley (never KO'd, but still dropped) and Marquez (never KO'd).
And all those guys took damage. Marquez suffered a broken nose and concussion (see below). Pac basically ended Margarito's career, Margarito started the fight Mexican but left the fight Chinese. Bradley broke his feet from running so much. Mosley said he couldn't remember three rounds and never was hit so hard in his life.
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And all those guys took damage. Marquez suffered a broken nose and concussion (see below). Pac basically ended Margarito's career, Margarito started the fight Mexican but left the fight Chinese. Bradley broke his feet from running so much. Mosley said he couldn't remember three rounds and never was hit so hard in his life.
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Ricky Hatton already got KO’ed by Mayweather and was on coke.
Oscar at 147lb a weight he didn’t fight in 7 years weight drained.
Cotto at a catch weight of 145lb, only after the Margarito beating and the hard fight with Clottey. Why didn’t Manny fight the winner of Cotto vs. Margarito you should be asking?
[Pac basically ended Margarito's career, Margarito started the fight Mexican but left the fight Chinese]. LOL really?? Mosley and Brother Nazim ended Margarito’s career Nazim by finding his hand wraps and Mosley by beating the living shit out of Margarito and actually knocking him out unlike Manny. Plus let’s not act like Margarito wasn’t banned from boxing for a year when Manny Cherry-picked him at a catch weight of 150lb for Martinez’s 154lb vacant belt. Again why didn’t Manny fight the winner of Margarito vs. Mosley? Lol
Mosley never recovered from landing those two bombs on Mayweather and then getting his ass brutally beat for 10 rounds by Mayweather. After that fight Mosley couldn’t pull the trigger anymore. Mosley fought like a bitch too but Manny was exposed he can’t hit a moving target and his stamina was getting bad. Which again why didn’t Manny fight the winner of Mayweather vs. Mosley? Lol Let the commission do their job.
[Bradley broke his feet from running so much]. Lol Really?? What fight were you watching? 140lber Bradley was right in front of Manny all night and by the 9th round until the end of the fight Bradley had Manny backing up from the body work he put in. Manny again cherry-picked a 140lber and lost the fight. I love how Manny fans love to give him credit for a fight he lost and he ducked the rematch to fight a 39yr old Marquez and got KO’ed.
I know you guys love Manny but stop it with all the overhyping it’s over for now. 122-130lb Manny had a great career; 135-154 is all catch weights, media hype, great match making, and ducking random testing. Since being asked to be randomly tested 2009 dude hasn’t looked good at all in the ring. Ducking out on the superfight because of random testing will be a black cloud over Manny’s career. Manny is a HOF fighter but he’s over hyped..
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You, Argentin3, Rump, and Kah707kali are known Manny dickerider co-sign Manny walking away from the Mega fight because of random drug testing. You and the rest of the Manny nuthugger are just mad that Manny got folded like a metal chair now you want to whine about name calling?? lol Wasn't it you and the same dickerider I just named calling me racist and co-sign eachother pro-Manny post? lol
Do be mad at me that Manny got KO'ed, you Manny been acting real bitchy since Saturday hanging on my every word.
Do be mad at me that Manny got KO'ed, you Manny been acting real bitchy since Saturday hanging on my every word.
If Bradley had more power on his punches he would've KO'd Manny too because Manny is always getting hit. It was only a matter of time before someone sat on their punches to deliver more power.
Now Manny has lost two in a row. Got to blame his fan club somewhat because everyone told him he beat Bradley and didn't need a rematch, when in hindsight, he should've taken it and left the Marquez series where it was at. He had a 2-0-1 lead and now that knockout loss kinds of evens it out for Marquez.
Now Manny has lost two in a row. Got to blame his fan club somewhat because everyone told him he beat Bradley and didn't need a rematch, when in hindsight, he should've taken it and left the Marquez series where it was at. He had a 2-0-1 lead and now that knockout loss kinds of evens it out for Marquez.
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How do u blame his fanbase when pac amd Marquez were on live tv aired in Mexico hours after the Bradley fight and pac told Marquez he wants to figjt him next because its more entertaining to the fans? Bradley was the easy fight he took the harder fight and it turned out to be a great fight.
Lol @ trollface.
Lol @ trollface.
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Actually man not a bad read. Also great points on Manny not fighting the winner of those fights. Never really tripped on that but very interesting and suspect. Got Em!!
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No one will ever look at Manny's career and say "well, he didn't agree to random testing from Mayweather, soooooo.....". That's not even a thought when you look down the road. It's not even worth caring about today. What makes you think people will say something in 25 years?
A lot of fighters don't agree on a lot of things.
Fighters get busted for using PEDs and I don't think anyone is going to look back and cast a shadow on their career for a positive test. Manny didn't even test positive and you act like he was some fluke.
Also, what's wrong with great match making? That's what boxing has become.
Khan is fighting Molina. What kind of shit is that? What business does Arce have to be in the ring with Donaire? It's just how it is now. Blame the promoters. It has nothing to do with the fighters.
A lot of fighters don't agree on a lot of things.
Fighters get busted for using PEDs and I don't think anyone is going to look back and cast a shadow on their career for a positive test. Manny didn't even test positive and you act like he was some fluke.
Also, what's wrong with great match making? That's what boxing has become.
Khan is fighting Molina. What kind of shit is that? What business does Arce have to be in the ring with Donaire? It's just how it is now. Blame the promoters. It has nothing to do with the fighters.
lol.. Ask Barry Bonds and Shane Mosley what PED did to there rep, and both guys never tested positive for anything. When people look back and ask why wasn't Mayweather vs. Manny made and they read that Manny refused to be randomly tested that's why the fight didn't happen. What will that say about Manny ducking random testing.
And it's not about Manny refusing the random testing. It's about so-called real boxing fans like you and 206 that co-signed Manny walking away from the fight, not alone did you guys co-sign his ducking of testing but you guys also called the guy that requested the random testing a coward. Now three 3 years later the same Manny co-signers are PED experts and want to discredit the USDA testing.. Me saying that Mayweather was right to ask for more testing (that both guys would be taking) is the main reason I'm labeled a Troll. It's just too funny listening to you guys change up story but yet never admitting that you were dead wrong to begin with.
When I get some time I'm going to post some of the Manny nuthuggers opinions on PED testing 3 yrs ago. It's going to be funny to see you guy do a 360..
And it's not about Manny refusing the random testing. It's about so-called real boxing fans like you and 206 that co-signed Manny walking away from the fight, not alone did you guys co-sign his ducking of testing but you guys also called the guy that requested the random testing a coward. Now three 3 years later the same Manny co-signers are PED experts and want to discredit the USDA testing.. Me saying that Mayweather was right to ask for more testing (that both guys would be taking) is the main reason I'm labeled a Troll. It's just too funny listening to you guys change up story but yet never admitting that you were dead wrong to begin with.
When I get some time I'm going to post some of the Manny nuthuggers opinions on PED testing 3 yrs ago. It's going to be funny to see you guy do a 360..
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Dude who is Donaire supposed to fight? Rigondeaux, Mares? I agree he should fight both and most likely will be fighting Rigondeaux soon but Arce is his best test yet and people seem to just write Arce off like its a sparring session. Again some of yall thought Nishioki or whatever his name is was supposed to give Donaire a good fight and he ran like a bitch! I kinda hope Arce beats Donaire just because of the lack of respect. Dude been putting in work for years and will give us fans a good show to one of them gets ko'd. Also it will be Donaire's biggest payday. Its a cool fight for him at this point. If he wins next up should be Rigondeaux if he wins his fight. He looked suspect in his last fight also.
As for Khan, we have to give him a pass on this one because his career took a bad turn. He was 2 fights away from possibly facing Floyd. He loses to Peterson and then gets ko'd by Garcia. Now he is almost starting from scratch again and needs a win bad to gain confidence so I am actually ok with this fight. If he wins however he then needs to go back up and fight someone very good. Got Em!!
Haha I feel u. Got Em!!
As for Khan, we have to give him a pass on this one because his career took a bad turn. He was 2 fights away from possibly facing Floyd. He loses to Peterson and then gets ko'd by Garcia. Now he is almost starting from scratch again and needs a win bad to gain confidence so I am actually ok with this fight. If he wins however he then needs to go back up and fight someone very good. Got Em!!
Haha I feel u. Got Em!!
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Bigtroll only has selective memory. Like i said countless times in hindsight pac should have took the test the first time. That was three years ago and he acts as if it were yesterday. Nevermind the fact that since then pacquiao said he'd do the testing. Nevermind Mayweather wanting 100% of the PPV money. This is bigface we're dealing with here, he only chooses what information to talk about it if it fits into his agenda. Dickrider? Manny Groupies? Mr. PED expert? Yet guys like Peterson & Berto fail drug tests and he brushes it to the side. Yeah, we're the biased ones.
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