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WBC to force Saul Alvarez to fight Lara-Martirosyan winner in early 2013 or he’ll be stripped of title
October 1st, 2012 | Post Comment

Lara vs. Martirosyan vanes martirosyan saul alvarez erislandy lara By Dan Ambrose: WBC junior middleweight champion Saul “Canelo” Alvarez will have to fight the winner of the November 10th WBC 154 pound eliminator bout between Erislandy Lara and Vanes Martirosyan by early 2013 or the World Boxing Council will strip the 22-year-old Alvarez of his title.

WBC president Jose Sulaiman said to eastsideboxing.com “Saul Alvarez must defend his title against the winner of the November 10th contest between Vanes Martirosyan and Erislandy Lara.”

This is definitely a good thing because it’s getting incredibly old see Alvarez fight light welterweights like Josesito Lopez and welterweights like Matthew Hatton and Alfonso Gomez. Golden Boy Promotions has been spoon feeding Alvarez for the past couple of years and it’s time he finally faces a quality contender.
I know Alvarez was supposed to fight Paul Williams who badly exposed by Lara, but that still was an impressive pick given how badly Lara dominated Williams. Golden Boy also wanted to match Alvarez up with James Kirkland, but I think that would have been another less than dangerous fight for Alvarez because Kirkland had an injured shoulder from his fight with Carlos Molina, and he would have been less than 100 percent.

Golden Boy will likely slip in an optional title defense for Alvarez in December before he’s forced to fight the winner of the Lara-Martirosyan fight in early 2013. It’s anyone’s guess who Alvarez will fight in December, because it’s not going to be Miguel Cotto, Austin Trout, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, or Sergio Martinez.

My guess is they’ll match Alvarez with former WBO junior middleweight champion Serhiy Dzinziruk, who looked completely awful in his last fight in getting a gift draw against Jonathan Gonzalez last month on September 1st. If not him, then look for Alvarez to be matched with another welterweight. I hope it’s another welterweight, but I’d be willing to be that a welterweight will end up fighting Alvarez if Dzinziruk doesn’t get the fight. Golden Boy would obviously love it if Floyd Mayweather Jr. took the fight with Alvarez because they’d do really well even if Alvarez was totally schooled by Mayweather.

The money and the attention that Alvarez would receive would be so good for his career that it wouldn’t be a big deal if he was completely out-classed by Mayweather. However, that’s not going to happen because Mayweather has been completely silent about the idea of fighting again in 2012. If there’s going to be an Alvarez-Mayweather fight it’ll have to happen in 2013, if at all. I wouldn’t be surprised either if Alvarez vacated his WBC title rather than facing the Lara-Martirosyan winner. That would be something I could see him doing.

 

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Pavlik not interested in Edwin Rodriguez fight
September 30th, 2012 | Post Comment

Rodriguez Escalera Rodriguez vs. Escalera kelly pavlik edwin rodriguez By Dan Ambrose: Former WBC/WBO middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik (40-2, 34 KO’s) says he has no interest whatsoever in taking on unbeaten #3 WBC, #4 IBF, #8 WBA super middleweight contender Edwin Rodriguez (22-0, 15 KO’s) despite him looking good in blowing out Jason Escaldera (13-1-1, 12 KO’s) in 8 rounds last Saturday night in an HBO televised fight.

Speaking with 8countnews.com, Pavlik said “There’s bigger fights out there than Edwin Rodriguez. I’m a former world champion. I make big fights. I don’t need to fight him.”

Pavlik seemed to take offense that the 27-year-old Rodriguez is using him as a stepping stone to get to a title shot rather than just calling out one of the champions. Pavlik obviously doesn’t see himself as an over-the-hill type fighter or someone to be used as a stepping stone for younger super middleweights to use in order to get a title shot.
However, Pavlik only has himself to blame for this. Pavlik has been out of circulation for two years in terms of fighting for world titles that it can’t help but to give the impression to younger fighters like Rodriguez that Pavlik is done. Pavlik isn’t even trying to fight for a world title now, and has been fighting endless tune-ups since losing his WBC and WBO middleweight titles to Sergio Martinez two years ago. No doubt Pavlik has had problems outside of the ring with alcohol. However, he should have already stepped back up to the plate and at least fought a contender at this point instead of wasting his career fighting 3rd tier fighters like Aaron Jaco, Scott Sigmon and 2nd tier guy Will Rosinsky.

I don’t know what Pavlik is thinking but I don’t see a big fight falling into his lap at super middleweight. He could step up and fight WBA/WBC super middleweight champion Andre Ward, and I’m sure Ward would take that fight. But I don’t think Pavlik will do that. Pavlik will have to wait to get a shot against IBF champ Carl Froch, because he’s been for the next year fighting Yusaf Mack, Lucian Bute, Mikkel Kessler and then his mandatory challenger. #3 WBO, Pavlik could get a shot against WBO super middleweight champion Arthur Abraham at some point but I seriously doubt that will happen in 2013. Pavlik might have to wait until 2014 to get that shot, because I can’t see Abraham’s handlers letting Abraham fight Pavlik until Pavlik is Abrahams mandatory challenger.

I don’t blame Pavlik for not wanting to fight Edwin Rodriguez, because he’s all wrong for Pavlik. He moves a lot, throws a lot of punches and is tall. He’s not a stationary fighter like the guys that Pavlik does well against. Besides that, there’s probably not going to be a lot of money in a Rodriguez-Pavlik fight unless HBO is willing to pay big money to air this fight, and I doubt that. Rodriguez isn’t a big enough name to have a well paying fight between him and Pavlik. Rodriguez is basically too dangerous for Pavlik. Kelly needs to try angle himself to fight the WBA World regular super middleweight champion Karoly Balzsay, who is little more than a paper champion in the eyes of many boxing fans

 

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Amir Khan vs. Carlos Molina to be televised by Showtime, likely on December 15th
September 30th, 2012 | Post Comment

Khan Molina Carlos Molina amir khan By William Mackay: Believe it or not, Showtime has reportedly bought the Amir Khan (26-3, 18 KO’s) vs. Carlos Molina (17-0, 7 KO’s) mismatch and will be televising it on Showtime, likely on December 15th, according to Steve Kim. Stephen Espinosa, Showtime’s executive vice president of sports and event programming, has reportedly bought the Khan-Molina fight for some reason.

This is pretty shocking because this fight will undoubtedly be the main event and it’s not even close to being a top of the bill worthy fight. Khan has lost his last two fights, is no longer a world champion, and is fighting in experienced tiny 5’6″ lightweight in 26-year-old Carlos Molina. Like I’ve said before, this isn’t the junior middleweight contender Carlos Molina who has the same name, it’s the untested lightweight fringe contender Carlos Molina.

There’s huge difference here. The lightweight Molina has no power and is going to be out-gunned in every category you can think of in this fight. The 5’10″ Khan is four inches taller with a four inch reach advantage, he’s a lot faster, he’s lot more powerful, he’s a lot more experienced and he’s much better fighter. Molina is just fringe lightweight contender who has yet to face his first contender in the lightweight division.

I’m really shocked that Showtime would put televise the Khan-Molina fight. I can understand them televising it if it were an undercard fight, but not a main event. This is sad fight for a main event.

One positive for this card is that that 2008 U.S Olympic heavyweight Bronze medalist Deontay Wilder could end up on the undercard of this fight against a likely weak opponent. RingTV is reporting that Wilder will be fighting on December 15th on Showtime, so it looks like he’ll find a home on the Khan-Molina fight card.

This means of course that boxing fans will quite possibly be seeing two quick early round knockouts with the Khan-Molina mismatch and the Wilder vs. TBA likely mismatch. I hope Showtime analysts can fill the dead air with some discussion and hopefully some additional fights. It’s never a good thing when the top two fights on a card are mismatches and they end early. Boxing fans are forced to watch obscure fighters they’ve never even heard of fighting in bouts that few people care about.

It’s unclear if HBO, who has been televising Khan’s fights for the past year, has passed on the Khan-Molina fight. You would have to imagine that Golden Boy Promotions first offered the fight to HBO before taking it to Showtime to see if they were interested in putting it on the air. I’m just stunned that Showtime would want to televise a mismatch like Khan vs. Molina as a main event. That’s not good television as far as I’m concerned. This is like an easy comeback fight for Khan, a confidence booster after he was blown out completely by WBC light welterweight champion Danny Garcia last July. Since it’s a mismatch it should be an undercard fight and not a main event. Molina has been selected from the lightweight to fight Khan. That tells you everything you need to know about this fight.

I wonder why Golden Boy keeps matching their fighters with opposition from divisions below them? WBA World welterweight champion Paulie Malignaggi is fighting a light welterweight next month on October 20th in Brooklyn, New York. WBC junior middleweight champion Saul Alvarez just finished destroying a light welterweight in Josesito Lopez earlier this month, and now Khan, a light welterweight, is fighting a lightweight in Carlos Molina in December. I know it’s an easy way to guarantee a victory but what happens when these guys fight quality opposition from their own weight classes? Alvarez has to fight junior middleweight Erislandy Lara eventually unless Alvarez vacates his title. Maligaggi has to fight welterweight Thomas Dulorme sooner or later. And Khan is going to have to fight the top light welterweights again. Putting him in with a lightweight isn’t going to stop the inevitable from happening once Khan is put back in with a light welterweight that can punch.
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Orlando Salido suffers broken finger
Updated: September 28, 2012, 1:56 PM ET

By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com

Featherweight titlist Orlando Salido broke his right index finger when his hand was accidentally slammed in a car door, forcing him on Friday to postpone his upcoming defense against Miguel Angel "Mikey" Garcia.

Salido and Garcia were due to meet Nov. 10 at the Wynn Las Vegas in the main event of an HBO "Boxing After Dark" card.

Sean Gibbons, Salido's manager, told ESPN.com that he was leaving the gym on Wednesday night when he suffered the injury.

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"The worst part of this is that it was not even a boxing-related injury," Gibbons said. "It's just bad luck. One of his guys shut the door on his hand by accident. Just a freak accident.

"We've never had an injury and had to pull out of a fight before. Salido is one of the healthiest guys you'll meet. He's always in condition. He doesn't ever get too far out of shape but these things happen."

Gibbons said that Salido would be ready to fight again in early January.

"This guy was making a very high six-figure payday for this fight," Gibbons said. "Even though he was making a good purse, he's got too much pride and heart just to go through with it and not be 100 percent. He isn't just fighting for the payday. He wants it to heal properly so he can train properly so he can win the fight. Some guys would jump at the payday even if they were injured, just because of the money. But Salido has a lot of pride. He doesn't want to just fight. He wants to win."

Gibbons said Salido would continue to train by running and working on his left hand, and just won't use his right hand until the finger is healed.

"He'll be ready to go any time in January," Gibbons said.

Carl Moretti of Top Rank, which co-promotes Salido with Zanfer Promotions, said he was talking with HBO about possible replacement opponents to face Garcia. If they can't find one, Moretti said they would make an entirely new fight because Top Rank and HBO still plan to go through with the card.

"HBO's intention is to go forward with the card," he said. "I'm talking to them. Everybody is in mind to fight Mikey. It depends on who is available and who we can get."

The co-feature remains intact, a junior middleweight title elimination bout between 2004 U.S. Olympian Vanes Martirosyan (32-0, 20 KOs) against Erislandy Lara (17-1-1, 11 KOs) for the right to become the mandatory challenger for titleholder Saul "Canelo" Alvarez.

Salido (39-11-2, 27 KOs), 31, of Mexico, was due to make the third defense of his 126-pound title. Garcia (29-0, 25 KOs), 24, of Oxnard, Calif., has been waiting patiently for his first title opportunity.

Damnit I wanted to see this fight..

 

[ArGenTin3]

Proved u wrong again now shut up and sit your double talking ass down somewhere.

FYI, you don't know what you're talking about because you keep on making up stuff and double talking. My whole point is to tell you that Mayweather, Manny, and Marquez are the same damn size.

If they are the same size as you claim, how is it that Mayweather can gain so much weight on fight night while Marquez and Manny can't?

I think its funny ashell that you keep overlooking the fight between Floyd and Marquez when Floyd came into the ring that night overweight as fuck! He knew he had a severe weight advantage that night and chose NOT to weigh himself because of it.

 

[JLMACN]

u obviously have no idea what I'm talking about if u think I'm implying floyd should fight martinez or ward. once again thanks for wasting my time. my entire point was that pac has no business at 154, is tapped out at 147 and if floyd vs pac ever happens it should be at 147.

btw notice marquez is wearing shoes floyd isn't and marquez moved up from 135 for that fight.

bigface......marquez is wearing shoes bro and still looks shorter than Mayweather here in your pic.

LOL

 

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bigface......marquez is wearing shoes bro and still looks shorter than Mayweather here in your pic.

LOL

I added pictures with them both guys wearing shoes and again they're the same damn size. Now keep on lving in la la.

 

[bigface]

If they are the same size as you claim, how is it that Mayweather can gain so much weight on fight night while Marquez and Manny can't?

I think its funny ashell that you keep overlooking the fight between Floyd and Marquez when Floyd came into the ring that night overweight as fuck! He knew he had a severe weight advantage that night and chose NOT to weigh himself because of it.

Marquez weighted in at 142 and Mayweather was146lb. Please telling me how an 4lb weight advantage for Mayweather made him give Marquez a boxing lesson. Mayweather didn't use his size to wear down and beat Marquez he outboxed him and put on a boxing clinic.

Mayweather weight on fight night is 150lb by the way. So gaining 3lbs over night is a weight huge weight advantage??

FYI, Mayweather was 150lb on fight night against Ortiz, and Ortiz was 162lb, but we saw your boy Ortiz get put to sleep for headbutting and he out weighted Mayweather by 12lbs

 

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DeMarco vs Broner Nov 17th on HBO.

What excuses will be made after Broner beats up DeMarco?? DeMarco is the champ and ranked #1 at 135lb by the way..

 

[CZAR]

DeMarco vs Broner Nov 17th on HBO.

What excuses will be made after Broner beats up DeMarco?? DeMarco is the champ and ranked #1 at 135lb by the way..

Man ole man I cant wait for this. Broner is about to beat the breaks off this dude. Got Em!!

 

[ArGenTin3]

Marquez weighted in at 142 and Mayweather was146lb. Please telling me how an 4lb weight advantage for Mayweather made him give Marquez a boxing lesson. Mayweather didn't use his size to wear down and beat Marquez he outboxed him and put on a boxing clinic.

Mayweather weight on fight night is 150lb by the way. So gaining 3lbs over night is a weight huge weight advantage??

FYI, Mayweather was 150lb on fight night against Ortiz, and Ortiz was 162lb, but we saw your boy Ortiz get put to sleep for headbutting and he out weighted Mayweather by 12lbs

Dude, Marquez jumped up 4 weight classes in a span of 1 year to fight Floyd. Mayweather was never weighed on fight night against Marquez either. You are talking about the weigh in weights, not the actual fight night weights moron. Floyd was clearly and I mean clearly like 20 pounds heavier then Marquez that night. Watch the fight again like I just did and come back and try to tell me they were the same size. Mayweather is naturally bigger then both Marquez and Manny knucklehead.




You are still delusional as fuck about that Floyd "KO" over Ortiz too. If he was put to "sleep", he would have been down on the map snoring. It took 2 clear sucker punches for Floyd to drop him and he still managed to get up on his feet after the fact. Thats put to "sleep" alright. How anyone can still claim that to be a legit "KO" and be proud about it is idiotic imo.

 

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Dude, Marquez jumped up 4 weight classes in a span of 1 year to fight Floyd. Mayweather was never weighed on fight night against Marquez either. You are talking about the weigh in weights, not the actual fight night weights moron. Floyd was clearly and I mean clearly like 20 pounds heavier then Marquez that night. Watch the fight again like I just did and come back and try to tell me they were the same size. Mayweather is naturally bigger then both Marquez and Manny knucklehead.




You are still delusional as fuck about that Floyd "KO" over Ortiz too. If he was put to "sleep", he would have been down on the map snoring. It took 2 clear sucker punches for Floyd to drop him and he still managed to get up on his feet after the fact. Thats put to "sleep" alright. How anyone can still claim that to be a legit "KO" and be proud about it is idiotic imo.

LOL at Mayweather being 20lbs heavier then Marquez. Mayweather's fight night weight is 150lb are you telling me Mayweather weight was 166lb against Marquez, but yet he was only 150lb fight night against Ortiz. SMH, Manny fans live on other planet where Mayweather is 6'1 and 180lbs but he cuts down to 147lb. lol

Down goes Ortiz. lol

 

[2-0-Sixx]

dude bigface. Should Pac vs Floyd be at 147 vs 154? That's what it boils down too, that was the whole point. You're arguing just to argue. Obviously it should be at 147 pounds.

Floyd is a little bigger than Pac, not a lot, but a little, both in height, reach and his body structure. However they both fight at 147 so there would be absolutely no excuses and the weight means nothing when fighting at the same weight.

 

[CZAR]

You are still delusional as fuck about that Floyd "KO" over Ortiz too. If he was put to "sleep", he would have been down on the map snoring. It took 2 clear sucker punches for Floyd to drop him and he still managed to get up on his feet after the fact. Thats put to "sleep" alright. How anyone can still claim that to be a legit "KO" and be proud about it is idiotic imo.

Dude some of yall still on that bullshit? Floyd ko'd that dude plain and simple. Its not Floyd's fault dude is inexperienced and didnt defend himself. He got hit once and still didnt defend himself then the ko punch came and it was lights out for the count! Deal wit it and move on. Got Em!!

 

[ArGenTin3]

Everyone knows Mayweather is naturally bigger then both Manny and Marquez. Anyone who claims they are all the same size is just being plain ignorant. If you watched the fight, you could EASILY tell Floyd was way heavier the Marquez in that fight. Why you think he didn't want to get weighed again before the fight then? He knew his ass was severely overweight compared to his competition and didn't want to be put on blast for it. I mean he was already bigger then him in the first place and then to add on more weight the day of the fight to boot? It clearly showed with the way he fought that night, he had no fear at all of Marquez's size or power. His ass was atleast 15 pounds heavier then Marquez. Only the Mayweather nuthuggers would see it anyother way.

 

[WYNO707X4]

Marquez even said it after the fight floyd had 20 pounds on me.ill take marquez word anyday over voids. How come void didnt weigh him self for hbo? What he trying to hide. They blast chaves jr for gaingning weight on the day of the fight......atleast he makes the 160

 

[WYNO707X4]

I was thinking today.... a berto vs floyd @ 147 would be good. Berto is fast strong i think he could beat floyd. Styles make fights i think this will be it

 

[T-Rip]

Berto doesn't have enough of a work rate to give Floyd any problems. Floyd would make him look like C fighter worse then he did Gatti and Gatti was my dude

 

[heyzel]

News: Roger Mayweather’s net worth $20 million?; Vazquez vs. Quintero on October 27th
October 1st, 2012 | Post Comment

Vazquez Quintero Roger Mayweather Marvin Quintero miguel vazquez boxing By Chris Williams: Supposedly Roger Mayweather (59-13, 35 KO’s), the unclear and trainer of Floyd Mayweather Jr., has a net worth of $20 million, according to Celbritynetworth.com. During his boxing career, Roger captured the WBA super featherweight title and the WBC light welterweight belt.

However, I find it hard to believe that he made huge money during his boxing career even though he faced the likes of Julio Cesar Chavez, Livingstone Bramble, Kostya Tszyu, and Vinny Pazienza. I just don’t think Roger was able to accumulate that kind of wealth during his 18-year pro career.

If the $20 million figure is correct then Roger must be getting paid awfully well for his training job with his nephew Floyd Mayweather Jr. during all these years. I thought Freddie Roach made big bank training Manny Pacquiao, but if Roger has a net worth of $20 million then he might be the wealthiest boxing trainer on earth right now.

Roger certainly deserves it because he’s done an outstanding job of training Floyd Jr. He’s made him into the best fighter on the planet bar none and he deserves every penny of that $20 million, if that figure is to believes. Roger must be making some seriously good investments in the stock market or some wise real estate investments for him to have that kind of cash. It definitely helps if you don’t spend it or throw it away on gambling or fast living.

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Miguel Vazquez defends his IBF lightweight title against Marvin Quintero on October 27th

IBF lightweight champion Miguel Vazquez (31-3, 13 KO’s) will be making his 4th defense of his International Boxing Federation title on October 27th on HBO against #1 IBF contender Marvin Quintero (25-3, 21 KO’s) at the Turning Stone Resort & Casino, in Verona, New York.

Also on the card will be undefeated #1 WBC welterweight contender Thomas Dulorme (16-0, 12 KO’s) will be facing Luis Carlos Abregu (33-1, 27 KO’s) in a scheduled 12 round bout.

Unbeaten WBO NABO light welterweight champion Karim Mayfield (16-0-1, 10 KO’s) will be facing the always tough Mauricio Herrera (18-2, 7 KO’s).

 

[heyzel]

Berto doesn't have enough of a work rate to give Floyd any problems. Floyd would make him look like C fighter worse then he did Gatti and Gatti was my dude

agreed homie berto is too slow for floyd and berto last fights he's been more of a brawler so unless of a miracle I can't see berto even touching floyd if this fight goes down