Heres the thing, i think the A'z (formerly fourdeep) are doper than the pack. They know how to make a commerical, mainstream sound, but locally dope too. They have good beats, good beat ideas, (when they flipped that r. kelly feelin on yo booty) but they cant rap. They can sing, they have the beat to rap to, but they cant rap to it. Some members are better than others, but its kinda like that playaz circle song with weezy on the hook thats on the radio lately-i can only listen to the song too long before i cant take the slow, off-beat, stupid ass rapping anymore and wanna move on. Theyre a poppy, B2K version, high school version of the team. And arent they signed to the same label B2K was signed to? I know someone posted a promo pic of the two groups together on this board before.