Oh yeah, and it always seemed to me that there is never shit to do here during the winter, but once May and June comes around there is always something cracking every weekend, usually too much because people are hibernating during the rainy shitty weather months.... There's nothing to do during January but save money for the summer, blow some trees with your friends (if they dont live more than a few blocks away), lay around with a lady (or three), and maybe read books. I almost panicked the other day tho' because there was no football on TV -- oh shit, I better find something else to do on Sundays!
Why is there nothing do do in Portland
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Good post.
1) Yeah they do calculate those MSAs to be pretty stretched out, Seattle's includes Tacoma (45 minute drive if your extremely lucky with traffic) and Bremerton (45 minute ferry ride), stretching all the way north to Everett. In rush hour, it would take you over 3 hours to drive from one side of the MSA to the other.
But they do that for good reason, b/c those outlying areas are still a part of the central city. People will come from Salem or Vancouver WA to go to MLB or NFL games in Portland. Hell, people come form Vancouver and Yakima to go to Mariners games. So in the context of pro sports, that 2.2 million number is relavent. Portland is way bigger than those other cities that keep coming up.
2) That point your trying to make about apartheid bears out statistically! The black Index of Dissimilarity in Portland was 63.6 in 1990, and that dropped to 55.2 in 2000. The Index of Dissimilarity is defined as the percentage of a given population that would have to move to equally distribute them across all Census Tracts in the city.
The same two numbers for Seattle were 65.6 (in 1990) and 60.2 (in 2000). Both cities are experiencing gentrificiation in their historically black neighborhoods, but the biggest reason you see more black people in Seattle is that we've got Tacoma as well as suburbs with relatively noticeable black populations. Renton, Federal Way, Burien, Seatac, Kent and Lakewood are all good examples, Portland doesn't really have that.
Neither Portland nor Seattle has ever had sizable neighborhoods that were 90-100% black like the East, South and Midwest. We're seeing neighborhoods that were 67-75% black in the 60s, 70s and 80s dropping down to 30-50% black.
Get all of the Index of Dissimilarity info here: http://enceladus.isr.umich.edu/race/choosearea.asp
1) Yeah they do calculate those MSAs to be pretty stretched out, Seattle's includes Tacoma (45 minute drive if your extremely lucky with traffic) and Bremerton (45 minute ferry ride), stretching all the way north to Everett. In rush hour, it would take you over 3 hours to drive from one side of the MSA to the other.
But they do that for good reason, b/c those outlying areas are still a part of the central city. People will come from Salem or Vancouver WA to go to MLB or NFL games in Portland. Hell, people come form Vancouver and Yakima to go to Mariners games. So in the context of pro sports, that 2.2 million number is relavent. Portland is way bigger than those other cities that keep coming up.
2) That point your trying to make about apartheid bears out statistically! The black Index of Dissimilarity in Portland was 63.6 in 1990, and that dropped to 55.2 in 2000. The Index of Dissimilarity is defined as the percentage of a given population that would have to move to equally distribute them across all Census Tracts in the city.
The same two numbers for Seattle were 65.6 (in 1990) and 60.2 (in 2000). Both cities are experiencing gentrificiation in their historically black neighborhoods, but the biggest reason you see more black people in Seattle is that we've got Tacoma as well as suburbs with relatively noticeable black populations. Renton, Federal Way, Burien, Seatac, Kent and Lakewood are all good examples, Portland doesn't really have that.
Neither Portland nor Seattle has ever had sizable neighborhoods that were 90-100% black like the East, South and Midwest. We're seeing neighborhoods that were 67-75% black in the 60s, 70s and 80s dropping down to 30-50% black.
Get all of the Index of Dissimilarity info here: http://enceladus.isr.umich.edu/race/choosearea.asp
Awesomely fascinating question. I can see both sides of it, I don't think there's a correct answer. From talking to numerous people black and white, rich and poor, I feel pretty comfortable stating that black people would prefer the older, more segregated way. I don't think black people give a shit about segregation, I think they give a shit about equality. The old "Separate but Equal" law could still be standing today if it truly were separate but equal.
These days I'll be rolling up 23rd Ave in the Central District, the most historically significant black neighborhood in the entire Pacific Northwest, and after I roll by the Starbucks it'll be 10pm and they'll be middle-aged white women out walking their dogs! Garfield is now the 3rd LEAST economically disadvantaged High School in the entire SSD.
These days I'll be rolling up 23rd Ave in the Central District, the most historically significant black neighborhood in the entire Pacific Northwest, and after I roll by the Starbucks it'll be 10pm and they'll be middle-aged white women out walking their dogs! Garfield is now the 3rd LEAST economically disadvantaged High School in the entire SSD.
I am originally from seattle but have been living in the bay area for the past 9 months, for the past two weeks i have been out in portland consulting for a night club and a jewlery company. A couple of friends took me out so i could get a better idea for the city...and while i agree it's like a smaller version of seattle...there is still shit to do...I hit the city nightclub and that was crackin.....theres a great market out here for hip hop and the urban lifestyle, it's just a matter of finding it. As far as there not being enough things directed towards african americans, that might be cuz from what i've seen theres a large hispanic population
Yep, so where are all of the black people going? From what I understand, it's mainly Renton, Kent, Federal Way, Auburn, Tukwila, Burien, southend suburbs like that.
As for whether it's a good thing or not, I don't know, I'm a whiteboy from the north end so I'm not qualified to answer that question. I can see both sides of it. I can see why a larger house in a safer neighborhood sending your kid to Hazen HS is preferable to a smaller house in a scarier neighborhood sending your kid to Rainier Beach or Cleveland. But I can also see how it would be offensive if it's not a move by choice but rather from white hipsters taking over.
Southend I would be curious to know how you feel about it.
As for whether it's a good thing or not, I don't know, I'm a whiteboy from the north end so I'm not qualified to answer that question. I can see both sides of it. I can see why a larger house in a safer neighborhood sending your kid to Hazen HS is preferable to a smaller house in a scarier neighborhood sending your kid to Rainier Beach or Cleveland. But I can also see how it would be offensive if it's not a move by choice but rather from white hipsters taking over.
Southend I would be curious to know how you feel about it.
SORRY FOR THE LATE ASS REPLY. EVERYBODY IS MOVING OUT TO FED, KENT & RENTON HIGHLANDS. WHITES (AGAIN NO DISRESPECT) ARE BUYING THE PROPERTY OUT IN THE C.D. NOT SURE IF THEY'RE BUYING THE PROPERTY OR IF IT IS BY FORCE. I KIND OF HAVE MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT IT. I WENT TO RAINIER BEACH, AND I LIVED MINUTES AWAY FROM THERE. THE AREA IS NOT ALL THAT SCARY, IT'S JUST WHEN EVENTS HAPPEN, THINGS GET OUT OF CONTROL.
Absofuckin'lutely, and not to get all apocalyptic or anything, but right now AZ, NV, and Southern Cali is booming even harder, and there is just NO way that there is going to be enough water or energy down there to support all those people in the long term, so in 10 to 25 years a grip more people are going to be moving up here.
yeah i agree 100%
i moved here from hayward, ca(bay area) due to my parents job trasfer, few years back. we were shocked at the cheap houses they have here and no sales tax. but once i moved up here i had a huge culture shock tho. we live in da burbs, but daym i remeber my first day of school here, when the mutha fuckin counsler put me in esl jus becuase i was brown! born n raised in northen califoolya u beezy waz wut i told her. got harrassed alot by school staff jus cause i dress urban! i graduated tho 05! but now i get harrassed more by the police, cause they c a young man of color, wit a fitted hat driving an impala ss!
anywayz yea portland got nike here, but its still hard to find exclusive forces and jordans here. i cant stand the malls here either...i live closer to clackamas and daym that mall is weak as fuck....dey dun even sell AF1,s there. and the demo store is closing there. lloyd center is the only mall that is jus ok....but its weak if compare it to a bay area mall.
im 20 so i cant judge any real clubs yet. but i have been to the zone and fx....and daym there are hella weak. i ask the dj @ zone to play sum hyphy shit and he laughed and me sayin dat he cant beacuse that music is too violent! but he played snoop dogg drop it like its hot 3 times...where he talks about crippin...and ppl were crip walkin in dere n shit...including da almighty abracombie boys! lol. but ill be 21 in 2 months...wuts the hottest club in portland? do they play any bay shit there?
but yea portland has the highest white population(75%), compare to other major citys with 500,000 or more ppl. with the metro area its probably like 85%white. and sports team...shit i dun even wanna get on dat. lol
1 more thing cuzzo, portland does have good weed....but i have smoked way better shit in da bay...we got canaibus clubs there, so my boy would hook me up wit sum og grandaddy purple.
i moved here from hayward, ca(bay area) due to my parents job trasfer, few years back. we were shocked at the cheap houses they have here and no sales tax. but once i moved up here i had a huge culture shock tho. we live in da burbs, but daym i remeber my first day of school here, when the mutha fuckin counsler put me in esl jus becuase i was brown! born n raised in northen califoolya u beezy waz wut i told her. got harrassed alot by school staff jus cause i dress urban! i graduated tho 05! but now i get harrassed more by the police, cause they c a young man of color, wit a fitted hat driving an impala ss!
anywayz yea portland got nike here, but its still hard to find exclusive forces and jordans here. i cant stand the malls here either...i live closer to clackamas and daym that mall is weak as fuck....dey dun even sell AF1,s there. and the demo store is closing there. lloyd center is the only mall that is jus ok....but its weak if compare it to a bay area mall.
im 20 so i cant judge any real clubs yet. but i have been to the zone and fx....and daym there are hella weak. i ask the dj @ zone to play sum hyphy shit and he laughed and me sayin dat he cant beacuse that music is too violent! but he played snoop dogg drop it like its hot 3 times...where he talks about crippin...and ppl were crip walkin in dere n shit...including da almighty abracombie boys! lol. but ill be 21 in 2 months...wuts the hottest club in portland? do they play any bay shit there?
but yea portland has the highest white population(75%), compare to other major citys with 500,000 or more ppl. with the metro area its probably like 85%white. and sports team...shit i dun even wanna get on dat. lol
1 more thing cuzzo, portland does have good weed....but i have smoked way better shit in da bay...we got canaibus clubs there, so my boy would hook me up wit sum og grandaddy purple.
True that...i have noticed here that alot of the white folks here look down on the minorties and think that they are more superior...there is racism and discrimination eveywhere, but i have felt it way more in portland...
Races in Portland:
White Non-Hispanic (75.5%)
Hispanic (6.8%)
Black (6.6%)
Two or more races (4.1%)
Other race (3.5%)
American Indian (2.3%)
Vietnamese (2.0%)
Chinese (1.4%)
Other Asian (1.3%)
Filipino (0.5%)
Japanese (0.5%)
http://www.city-data.com/city/Portland-Oregon.html
Races in Portland:
White Non-Hispanic (75.5%)
Hispanic (6.8%)
Black (6.6%)
Two or more races (4.1%)
Other race (3.5%)
American Indian (2.3%)
Vietnamese (2.0%)
Chinese (1.4%)
Other Asian (1.3%)
Filipino (0.5%)
Japanese (0.5%)
http://www.city-data.com/city/Portland-Oregon.html
That was very true in the late 80's and early 90's -- ugghhh, too much history to get into right now, but lets just say that anti-fascist skins, punks, and other roughnecks made it very physically unsafe for fascist skinheads to organize in Portland -- it was pretty much low-level urban combat. Now its pretty safe compared to 15 years ago. Almost all the rascist skinheads have to be underground and mostly in the suburbs. There are still hella anti-fascist skins around though but they are cool with black folks and listen to reggae, lol.... There are even several people of color I know in skinhead cliques....
I can post an article about it if people are interested...
I can post an article about it if people are interested...