J.C. PENNYS STANDFORDS OR THE ONES THE CHINOS SELL WIT THE TRIPLE LETTER "A" ON THE TAG...THOSE ARE THICK AND LAST A LONG TIME LIKE STANDFORDS!.....THEY USUALLY HAVE EM FOR LIKE 3 FOR 10 BUCKS!...AND THEY GOT A VARIETY OF COLORS TO MIX UP WIT DIFFERENT FITs!...