Livio gets a bad rap, if you've heard his newer stuff, it's definately tight. As far as whack people go, there's something I can appreciate from every rapper in the NW, so I can't knock anybody who's put out a CD. That's a lot of hardass work. However, if I had to pick somebody, it would be based on attitude and it would be Swachosiz. I've seen him stir up more shit with people that are actually doing something than anyother hater in the Northwest, so it'd probably be him... even though I heard he's turned over a new leaf, you can't be burning bridges like that.