yeah,i feel ya on the most talented aspect,i kinda just named mu favs i guess..forgot one too...cannibal ox....yeah,i still bump hope to this day like its brand new,i think its hard for ppl to get into sage cause he is so different than most shit out there,seems like cats either love him or hate him,that fucker need to put out some more albums,he has material for days,i mean,all these verses on the "sick of..." series and countless other shit online,he has enough shit to have like 4 albums by now,but never does anything with it,its just stays "unreleased"....and yeah,i wasnt really feeling "heavy" by swollen either,but i bump the shit out of bad dreams