The 2000 election results, a non-partisan attempt to get the facts straight

[Droopy Eye]

What was the real vote count in Florida, not the one they went with, the actual count. This thread is only about the votes that got in, ignore voter rolls, the state being called for Gore before the polls closed, etc. Also ignore the legal strategy's involved in getting a recount, the supreme court doesn't matter, nor does only recounting this area or that. Who really one the 2000 election?



The true answer is...it depends on what you criteria you think needs to be fulfilled for a vote to count.

Before you read on, you should take this quiz http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/onpolitics/elections2000/recount/yourvote.html
The result will give you who should have won the election using your standards.

Here are a couple scenarios

--STATEWIDE UNDERVOTE: If the state Supreme Court-ordered recount on Dec. 9 had not been stopped by the U.S. Supreme Court. The review considered this scenario under two different criteria -- one that followed the court's literal instruction to examine only undervotes and another that followed the intentions of each county's election officials, some of whom told reporters they also would examine overvotes.

Result: Bush ahead, with a range of 430 to 493.

In the review of all the state's disputed ballots, Gore edged ahead under all six scenarios for counting all undervotes and overvotes statewide:

--PREVAILING STANDARD: County election officials told Florida journalists how they would define votes if required to do a recount and in this scenario the majority standard was imposed statewide. A notable element of this standard was that, in punch-card counties, ballots with at least one corner of a chad detached counted as votes.

Result: Gore ahead by 60 votes.

--TWO-CORNER STANDARD: At least two corners of a chad must be detached to count as a vote, a position that had been argued, at times, by Bush supporters. Same as prevailing standard for optical scan ballots.

Result: Gore ahead by 105 votes.

--MOST INCLUSIVE: Ballots with dimpled chads count as votes, an argument often made by Gore supporters. Same as prevailing standard for optical scan ballots.

Result: Gore ahead by 107 votes.

--LEAST INCLUSIVE: Only cleanly punched chads count as valid votes. For optical scan, only fully filled ovals and those ballots on which a voter filled in the oval and wrote in the candidate's name, too.

Result: Gore ahead by 115 votes.

--COUNTY-by-COUNTY: Drawn from the county election officials. It accepts results from Broward and Volusia counties because those counties completed hand counts that were included in state-certified election totals. For those counties that said they would not count overvotes, relies on prevailing standard.

Result: Gore ahead by 171 votes.

--PALM BEACH STANDARD: Based on a standard Palm Beach election officials briefly used, this counts dimpled chads as valid votes if a pattern of dimpled chads exists elsewhere on the same ballot. Same as prevailing standard for optical scan ballots.

Result: Gore ahead by 42 votes.

-Associated Press In general, the National Opinion and Research Center had three people review each undervote and one review each overvote. When three-person teams were used, the AP analysis counted ballots only when at least two workers agreed on the markings.

A closer examination by the AP of where the candidates gained and lost votes indicated that Bush consistently stayed ahead when undervotes alone were counted in statewide scenarios. When the overvotes were included, Gore prevailed

My personal thoughts on the subject is that no one won, it is basically to close to call. The fair thing to do would be to call a redo and make Florida revote till a decisive winner could be determined.

 

[Villain]

my test results...

Al Gore
wins by 72 votes.

If Florida's contested ballots had been recounted using the standards you just entered, Bush would have won 2,916,409 votes and Gore would have won 2,916,481 votes.

 

[THA RIPPA]

George W. Bush
wins by 1039 votes.
If Florida's contested ballots had been recounted using the standards you just entered, Bush would have won 2,914,298 votes and Gore would have won 2,913,259 votes.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Al Gore wins by 107 votes.
If Florida's contested ballots had been recounted using the standards you just entered, Bush would have won 2,924,588 votes and Gore would have won 2,924,695 votes.

 

[JoMoDo]

Al Gore
wins by 134 votes.
If Florida's contested ballots had been recounted using the standards you just entered, Bush would have won 2,915,163 votes and Gore would have won 2,915,297 votes.

 

[Ethereal]

Al Gore
wins by 72 votes.
If Florida's contested ballots had been recounted using the standards you just entered, Bush would have won 2,916,409 votes and Gore would have won 2,916,481 votes.

 

[RaginHomosexual]

George W. Bush
wins by 219 votes.
If Florida's contested ballots had been recounted using the standards you just entered, Bush would have won 2,922,462 votes and Gore would have won 2,922,243 votes.

 

[bayGIANTS]

it doesnt work for me