Rematch after 17 years....Roy Jones jr. vs Bernard Hopkins [April 17th]

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Rematch after 17 years....Roy Jones jr. vs Bernard Hopkins [April 3rd]

yeah yeah yeah. They are old as fuck.

Getting that out of the way, they are two legends, two of the greatest that ever laced them up. And there is still bad blood.

Bernard Hopkins is ranked by the Ring as being #4 pound 4 pound best in the world. At age 45 (happy bday today). Jones, well, he's definitely on the downside, but still highly ranked at Light Heavyweight.

Say what you want, but for me, I'm happy to see them finally fight again. It's a nice little payday for them to finish their careers with. The press conferences, stare downs, etc. will be classic.

Bernard Hopkins plans on beating roy jones, then moving up to heavyweight to fight the David Haye/John Ruiz winner (both are golden boy so it can happen). As for Jones, a loss could/should mean retirement.




Seventeen years after their original bout, Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins are scheduled to fight again. When they step into the ring on Apr. 17, they will be a combined age of 86 years old!

This fight was thought to be dead in the water after Roy Jones was stopped inside two minutes of the first round in his last fight against Australian Danny Green. Hopkins, who had been inactive for 14 months, cruised to an easy points victory in his tune-up match with little known Enrique Ornelas and all fingers pointed to a Hopkins/Green bout.

However, even after Roy had lost, B-Hop was still very keen to make the fight happen, putting the Jones loss down to bad refereeing, stating that the fight had been stopped prematurely.

I disagree with this and also lost a little bit of the huge respect that I have for Jones after his bout, not because he lost in the first round but because he has since tried to get the decision overturned from a loss to a win via disqualification, claiming that Green was using illegal gauze on his wraps.

I will be very surprised if this fight does big PPV numbers but have no doubt that both guys will still make a lot of money, Jones made an incredible $4 million in the Green fight but because of the outcome of that bout it is understood that Roy has agreed to a “modification” from the original Hopkins/Jones deal. Which was 50/50 with the possibility for both of the fighters to take 60 percent of the purse if they won via a knockout.

When they first fought in May 1993 it was for the vacant IBF Middleweight title and Jones badly hurt his right hand early on but still won a fairly easy unanimous decision tagging "The Executioner" mostly with his left, in 12 very forgettable rounds.

But that was a long, long time ago. Roy would go on to become the first middleweight since 1897 to win a heavyweight title. He defeated guys like James Toney, Mike McCallum, Virgil Hill, Vinny Pazienza, and Clinton Woods so easily that he earned the nickname Superman, the only defeat he had was a DQ loss to Montell Griffin after he punched Griffin when he was already down on his knee, he avenged this defeat in emphatic fashion via a first-round KO in a rematch.

In his prime Roy Jones did things in world title fights that most guys wouldn’t even attempt to try on video games, such as the famous rooster move he used against James Toney, and in one fight against Glen Kelly, whilst against the ropes he put his hands behind his back, dodged a couple of shots and then knocked Kelly out.

When he moved up to heavyweight to fight WBA champ John Ruiz, apart from the difference in size between the two fighters, it looked the same as all his other fights. Jones was too quick, too good, and frustrated Ruiz with clowning moves on his way to a unanimous points victory.

However his kryptonite would be losing all those pounds of muscle to get back to the light heavyweight division, his first fight back at light-heavy was against Antonio Tarver and it was by far his toughest fight to date, a weight drained Roy Jones won a heavily contested split decision and in the rematch, the self proclaimed Mr. Unstoppable was knocked out in the second round.

Roy Jones was no longer invincible and was knocked out again in his very next fight, this time by Jamaican Glen Johnson, fans where now calling out for Jones to retire, but he kept going and fought Tarver for a third time and seemed happy to last the 12 rounds, even though he lost.

Since that loss he is 5-2, showing flashes of his old brilliance against guys like Sheika, Trinidad, and Jeff Lacey but also looking embarrassingly outmatched by Joe Calzaghe, a guy he would have had very little trouble with in his prime.

Bernard Hopkins (50-5-1, 32 KOs) will surely be a huge favourite going into this fight and although at 45, he will be the older man, he has aged a lot better then Roy Jones (54-6, 40 KOs) and is still considered by many as one of the best pound-for-pound fighters.

However, I am going to pick Jones to win this fight, possibly on points just because the fighters Jones has lost to are pressure fighters who throw lots of punches.

Bernard Hopkins is still very good but does not throw too many shots, so I believe, even at this stage in his career Roy will cause an upset because he is the quicker man. Whatever the outcome, as a fan, I really hope Roy calls it a day after the fight but I doubt he will.​
 
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only reason its bad is cuz the fight should have happened like 5 years ago other then that i think they both have a little something left and will be interesting to see how the fight plays out
 
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^^Yeah the perfect time for the rematch was immediately after Hopkins KO'd Trinidad in 2002 since the plan was for Trinidad to beat hopkins then fight Roy Jones. Jones was being a dickhead at that time though and a bit unreasonable with his demands, although Hopkins is at blame too for not just checking his ego at the door and accepting the terms, even if he would of got the short end of the stick.

And of course, the next time they were close to signing Jones goes and gets himself KO'd.

Better late than never though, cant wait for the press conference.
 
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I still cant believe how much time Hopkins took off after the Trinidad fight, he had what 1 fight in 2 years or so and the guy he fought if i remember correctly was running from him literally in the ring which was hilarious but still bad decision making on Hopkins part. Roy Jones was just to big headed at that time, even though i hated Tarver, Jones did need a reality check and after Glen Johnson served him he really fell off.
 
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I still cant believe how much time Hopkins took off after the Trinidad fight, he had what 1 fight in 2 years or so and the guy he fought if i remember correctly was running from him literally in the ring which was hilarious but still bad decision making on Hopkins part. Roy Jones was just to big headed at that time, even though i hated Tarver, Jones did need a reality check and after Glen Johnson served him he really fell off.
Hopkins fought twice in 2003 after he beat trinidad and that pussy you're talking about was Hakkar, he was a mandatory fight for one of his belts so bhop had no choice but to fight him or he would have been stripped of a title.

Then he beat William Joppy later in the same year who was ranked #1 or #2 at the time. So hopkines was active, but Hopkins struggled to get a big fight that year, he wanted jones and of course that didn't go through and a number of other fights didn't happen but soon after though he was rewarded with that big paday finally against De La Hoya in the following year.

Remember, pre-Oscar, Bhop acted as his own manager/promoter. A lot of people in the business hated hopkins and he had a lot of enemies because bhop wouldn't bend over for the powers that be and he tried to expose the corruption in the sport and sued a number of higher up people. They pretty much isolated him to small time fights, until he beat Don King's Trinidad of course.

One of the reasons I always loved bhop, he was nobody's bitch

 
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Haye-Ruiz to be apart of Hopkins-Jones II Telecast


You should not be surprised if WBA heavyweight champion David Haye's mandatory defense against John Ruiz takes place on the April 3, Hopkins-Jones II PPV telecast. Haye-Ruiz will headline in England, but a formal announcement of its tape delayed addition to the Hopkins-Jones rematch should be following shortly.
 
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i just started watching boxing when ever roy jones was suspended and was suppose to fight sweat pea, then whitaker retired i think. anyways hopkins is going to be chasing jones all over the place and will probably catch him hard with something. i'm hoping for a decision though.
 

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206, I know you're a B-hop fan and all but come on man (you can't be excited to see this fight).... who is going to pay to see Roy Jones fight after he was stopped by a bum in the first round?

And what will beating a "shot" Roy Jones Jr. do for Hopkins' career when Hopkins couldn't beat him in his prime? Is Roy Jones broke or what.

You shouldn't be allowed to talk bad about Mayweather anymore (in regards to taking easy fights). This fight is terrible for boxing just terrible!! Roy shouldn't even be allowed to fight period let alone pay per view.... and Hopkins should be ashamed of himself for even thinking about fighting Roy.
 
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Woah there tony! There is a long history between hopkins and jones and this fight is for entertainment for their fans, nothing more nothing less. Neither careers are affected win or lose.

However, obviously they are setting up the potential BERNARD HOPKINS VS DAVID HAYE fight for a heavyweight title later in the year.

Hopkins 3 fight plan was 1). Tune up, 2). Roy Jones, 3). Heavyweight shot then retirement. Hopkins announced those plans before Jones lost to Green.

Now that Golden Boy signed John Ruiz and David Haye, Bernard Hopkins will get his shot provided he beats Jones first.

So there is historic importance here tony. If you're not interested than don't watch but you shouldn't talk at all being that you watch and still support Evander Holyfield who is like 78 years old.






***And for the record Bernard Hopkins wasn't in his prime when he fought Jones, he was very much green and still wet behind his ears. Shit, even Jones probably wasn't quite in his prime in 1993...
 

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Bruh, don't even compare Holyfield to Hopkins.... we know who the better fighter was/is.... if they were to ever fight, Holyfield would have scraped Hopkins.... but that's for another discussion.

I'm just saying what kind of challenge is fighting Roy Jones after he was knocked out by a bum in the 1st round? And why pay per view? And you talk about Mayweather...
 
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Bruh, don't even compare Holyfield to Hopkins.... we know who the better fighter was/is.... if they were to ever fight, Holyfield would have scraped Hopkins.... but that's for another discussion.
Because he's bigger you dummy.

And hopkins is going down as one of the greatest fighters of all time, just like holyfield, so the comparison is perfectly fine, especially considering Hopkins at 45 years old is still a good fighter and he's ranked in the top 5 pound for pound, whereas Holyfield was considered shot yeeeaaarsss ago.

I'm just saying what kind of challenge is fighting Roy Jones after he was knocked out by a bum in the 1st round?
I never said it was a big challenge. This is clearly a personal grudge match and a way to make some money for the old men.

Hopkins is 45 years old, he is no longer in his prime. He's fought everyone in his day. He could have retired years ago and still would have been an all time great. If hopkins, at age 45, wants to fight Jones, who cares? Besides, the man is planning on moving up to heavyweight to fight david haye after, as if that isn't pure insanity in itself.

And why pay per view?
I don't agree that it should be on PPV, but that's what happens when you get two egos like jones and hopkins together. Besides, I'm not sure if HBO has officially picked this fight up, if they don't, they have no choice but to have this on PPV as no other network big enough could carry it.

And you talk about Mayweather...
Uhhh, Mayweather is IN HIS PRIME now. Hopkins is 45 years old. HUGE DIFFERENCE. If mayweather fights everyone possible, then later in his career at age 45 or whatever fights some guy past his prime as well, I wont hate. Hopkins proved himself time and time again. Mayweather, not so much (hopkins resume is far more impressive than Floyd's).

Besides, it looks like Mayweather is going to fight shane mosley on may 1st, and I give floyd major props for that. I wouldn't have if he fought fuckin nate campbell or some retard like that which is what they were saying before. Shane is a real champion and a real challenge. Floyd gets props for that.
 

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I'm talking about if Holyfield and Hopkins fought weighing the same you dummy! I'm talking the cruiserweight Holyfield....

But anyway this fight is just terrible for boxing (no matter how you slice and dice it up) and putting it on pay per view makes it even worse.
 
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LOL @ people complaining .. this fight is not terrible for boxing. Neither guy is punch drunk and if the undercard contains David Haye Vs. John Ruiz and Amir Khan Vs. Marcos Maidana then I'm all for this card.

Established prospects and former champs taking rebound fights and shit against guys with losing records is terrible for boxing.
 
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Man I hope the other two fights you mentioned are on there. I'm interested to see if Khan's chin is more sturdy at '40.

Only if Ruiz-Haye, and Khan-Maidana are on the card is it PPV worthy enough for me to buy it.