they have been odds with each other for a long time. it was all over that dooms owes grimm money. its been almost a couple years now. it was the reason grimm changed the pre-fix of his name to GM for digital tears last year,cause he didnt want to ever be associate with "MF" doom anymore. so this diss is a long time coming. thats why i was questioning you,wasnt sure if you thought this came out of nowhere or what