Mexican soldiers enter Arizona, hold agent briefly

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May 16, 2008
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Four Mexican soldiers crossed into Arizona and held a U.S. Border Patrol agent at gunpoint before realizing where they were and returning to Mexico, federal authorities said Wednesday.

The incident occurred early Sunday on the Tohono O'odham Indian Reservation, about 85 miles southwest of Tucson, in an area fenced only with barbed wire, said Dove Crawford, a spokeswoman for the Border Patrol.

The soldiers, outfitted in desert camouflage, pointed their rifles at the agent and shouted at him not to move, Crawford said. They lowered their weapons after about four minutes when the agent convinced them of who he was and where they were, then retreated into Mexico, she said.

State Department spokesman Gonzalo Gallegos in Washington said the encounter "stemmed from a momentary misunderstanding as to the exact location of the U.S.-Mexican border."

Portions of the Tohono O'odham reservation's 75-mile border with Mexico have been reinforced with vehicle barriers or other fencing to keep out illegal immigrants and drug smugglers. But other areas on the reservation and other stretches of border either have only barbed wire or no markers at all, making it hard to distinguish the boundary.

"There are places where there are no markers, at least not easily found," said Lloyd Easterling, a Border Patrol spokesman in Washington. "There's no line painted in the sand or anything like that."

The Mexican government has sent soldiers north along sections of the border in efforts to tamp down drug-related violence, while drug smugglers, guides leading illegal immigrants and bandits are often armed.

In a statement, Mexican Embassy spokesman Ricardo Alday in Washington said both countries are investigating Sunday's incident. "It seems that there are dissimilar versions of what happened, and both countries are trying to clarify it together," Alday said.

"Law enforcement operations have led, from time to time, to innocent incursions by both U.S. and Mexican law enforcement personnel and military units into the territory of both nations, and in particular along the non-demarcated areas of our border," he said.

Border Patrol officials said there have been about 40 similar incursions by Mexican soldiers along the 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexico border since Oct. 1, the beginning of the federal fiscal year. There were 18 such incidents through the same period a year earlier and more than 300 since September 1996, according to the agency.

"We're going to be looking for some corrective action from this," Easterling said. "We're working with the Mexican government to make sure that this doesn't happen again. This can't be happening."
He said that based on the agent's observations there's no question the men were Mexican troops.

T.J. Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Council, the union for Border Patrol agents, said the incursions have created a disturbing pattern.
Bonner said there have been at least a half-dozen incidents in recent years where Mexican soldiers have entered U.S. territory and shot at Border Patrol agents. "It's a minor miracle that none of our agents have been killed or seriously injured," he said.

"It's inexcusable to not know where the border is" when military units have global positioning capabilities, Bonner said.

The instances where the Border Patrol strays into Mexico are few and far between, Bonner said. "We have no incursions with Canada," he added. "Absolutely none."



WHAT YOU FOOLS THINK ABOUT THIS???
 
Jun 23, 2003
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the army is in on the drug cartel shit. They got better guns than the border patrol does. I read somewhere that they been training with the Iraqi's.

WTF? I doubt that. Why would they train with such a poorly trained country as far as armed forces.

The mexican soldiers dont need no fuckin training from anyone man.

This incident occured in a disputed area of border territory. It's a poorly marked area on the reservation. Theres hardly even a fence man. They dont need no fuckin training to help smuggle drugs or be violent. Let alone from iraq.
 
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Four Mexican soldiers crossed into Arizona and held a U.S. Border Patrol agent at gunpoint before realizing where they were and returning to Mexico, federal authorities said Wednesday.

The incident occurred early Sunday on the Tohono O'odham Indian Reservation, about 85 miles southwest of Tucson, in an area fenced only with barbed wire, said Dove Crawford, a spokeswoman for the Border Patrol.

The soldiers, outfitted in desert camouflage, pointed their rifles at the agent and shouted at him not to move, Crawford said. They lowered their weapons after about four minutes when the agent convinced them of who he was and where they were, then retreated into Mexico, she said.

State Department spokesman Gonzalo Gallegos in Washington said the encounter "stemmed from a momentary misunderstanding as to the exact location of the U.S.-Mexican border."

Portions of the Tohono O'odham reservation's 75-mile border with Mexico have been reinforced with vehicle barriers or other fencing to keep out illegal immigrants and drug smugglers. But other areas on the reservation and other stretches of border either have only barbed wire or no markers at all, making it hard to distinguish the boundary.

"There are places where there are no markers, at least not easily found," said Lloyd Easterling, a Border Patrol spokesman in Washington. "There's no line painted in the sand or anything like that."

The Mexican government has sent soldiers north along sections of the border in efforts to tamp down drug-related violence, while drug smugglers, guides leading illegal immigrants and bandits are often armed.

In a statement, Mexican Embassy spokesman Ricardo Alday in Washington said both countries are investigating Sunday's incident. "It seems that there are dissimilar versions of what happened, and both countries are trying to clarify it together," Alday said.

"Law enforcement operations have led, from time to time, to innocent incursions by both U.S. and Mexican law enforcement personnel and military units into the territory of both nations, and in particular along the non-demarcated areas of our border," he said.

Border Patrol officials said there have been about 40 similar incursions by Mexican soldiers along the 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexico border since Oct. 1, the beginning of the federal fiscal year. There were 18 such incidents through the same period a year earlier and more than 300 since September 1996, according to the agency.

"We're going to be looking for some corrective action from this," Easterling said. "We're working with the Mexican government to make sure that this doesn't happen again. This can't be happening."
He said that based on the agent's observations there's no question the men were Mexican troops.

T.J. Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Council, the union for Border Patrol agents, said the incursions have created a disturbing pattern.
Bonner said there have been at least a half-dozen incidents in recent years where Mexican soldiers have entered U.S. territory and shot at Border Patrol agents. "It's a minor miracle that none of our agents have been killed or seriously injured," he said.

"It's inexcusable to not know where the border is" when military units have global positioning capabilities, Bonner said.

The instances where the Border Patrol strays into Mexico are few and far between, Bonner said. "We have no incursions with Canada," he added. "Absolutely none."



WHAT YOU FOOLS THINK ABOUT THIS???
lol.
 
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The United States DON'T want ''it'', if ''it'' is the corruption, brutality, murders, drugs, etc. spilling over into the country. "It'' is already ''here'', but not to the same extent.

If ''it'' means war...LOL @ that.
 
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yeah that area of the border isnt marked well and very open due to the tohono odham res....i been out there....theres huge washes n shit that are used by smugglers and coyotes to drive their truccs through at night....they turn off the lights and floor it into the us and hope no one hears them coming.......shits crazy.....

the tohono and border patrol been trippin on each other lately cuz the indians dont want them in their territory and accuse the border patrol of harrassing indian citizens who the border patrol claims they are mistaking for illegal immigrants.....

The soldiers from the army could be working for cartels or just be on some rambo "fucc america" type shit or was just fuccin up......who knows.....mexico way too corupt to call it.....

We also got these idiot minutemen on our side claiming they will patrol the border too and they probably piss off a lotta smugglers and coyotes.....