Hugo Chavez Fashionista

[Mr. Nice Guy]

:ermm:

Venezuela's Budget for 2010: $264,000 for Hugo Chavez's Clothing
Highlights from the Venezuelan 2010 Budget: - Budget for the Office of the President: $2,200 million ($2.2 Billion). This corresponds to an increase of 600% with respect to the previous year which only asigned Mr. Chavez $350 million...

Hugo's personal allowance for 2010 include the following:

* $2.7 million for drink and food for social events

* $264,000 for clothing.

* $18,500 for shoes.

* $138,000 for reading material.

* $145,000 for grooming supplies.

* $405,000 for laundry and dry cleaning.

* $16 million for security expenses

* $9.6 million for travel expenses (note that a regular citizen will only get a maximum of $2,500 if he/she is lucky).

* $2 million for phone expenses.

* $476,000 for a new air conditioning system for the President's Office.

* $583,000 for electricity expenses.

* $480,000 for the water bill.

Meanwhile, the regular citizen is being asked (ordered actually) to spend no more than three minutes in the shower and to turn off lights to conserve energy.

As a footnote, let's mention that the Budget for the Office of the President is larger than the combined budget of the departments of Foodstuff, Energy and Culture. It is also notable that the only offices to obtain an increase in their budget for 2010 are the Office of the President and Department of Defense (weapons of course).

Welcome to XXI century Communism.

http://www.topix.com/world/venezuel...et-for-2010-264-000-for-hugo-chavezs-clothing

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/columnists/andres-oppenheimer/story/1328977.html

 

[ColdBlooded]

http://www.topix.com/world/venezuel...et-for-2010-264-000-for-hugo-chavezs-clothing

The source for that source is a blog. On said blog I wasn't able to find this information.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/columnists/andres-oppenheimer/story/1328977.html

The only source listed in that source is the herald's sister publication El Nuevo. I searched El Nuevo's site and was unable to find anything that matched Chavez or Venezeula on the sited date of October 28th.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Interesting to note those "findings" come from Carlos Eduardo Berrizbeitia former parliamentarian and fierce chavez opponent for many years.

 

[Miro]

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Meanwhile, the regular citizen is being asked (ordered actually) to spend no more than three minutes in the shower and to turn off lights to conserve energy.
....

Welcome to XXI century Communism.

http://www.topix.com/world/venezuel...et-for-2010-264-000-for-hugo-chavezs-clothing

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/columnists/andres-oppenheimer/story/1328977.html

Now that the tables have turned from the former ruling elite to the people. The former ruling class are trying there hardest to undermine the bolivarian revolution.

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[Dhadnot]

OWNED!

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

The source for that source is a blog. On said blog I wasn't able to find this information.

That is why I also posted a link to the Miami Herald. I could have picked a number of different publications to reference, but apparently the Miami Herald was the publication to break this story. This information is all over the net, but that particular blog did the best job of summarizing it.

The only source listed in that source is the herald's sister publication El Nuevo. I searched El Nuevo's site and was unable to find anything that matched Chavez or Venezeula on the sited date of October 28th.

I did not claim that the information was accurate when I posted the article. I simple posted something that has been making a splash on the net to entice similar discussion here without (and still having not) offering any personal opinion on the content of the article or its validity.

Interesting to note those "findings" come from Carlos Eduardo Berrizbeitia former parliamentarian and fierce chavez opponent for many years.

It is a logical fallacy to discount the possible truth in something based on the source.

Just because a liar says something, does not inherently make what he said a lie.

Now that the tables have turned from the former ruling elite to the people. The former ruling class are trying there hardest to undermine the bolivarian revolution.

for actual news on venezuela read:
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com
http://borev.net

free of corporate ads

What is happening in Venezuela is not much different from what happened when religion got its foothold or what happens all over the world including in the US. Its human's opportunistic tendency. If you can't make it in business try religion. If you can't make it in religion or business, try politics.

Take a look at 2-0-Sixx's Cambodia thread for a great example of abusing religion to gain and maintain power.

Don't you find it ironic that you are disregarding the article I posted because of the anti-Chavez sentiment of their sources, however you are not disregarding articles from your sources because of their pro-Chavez sources?

OWNED!

LOL

Great input.

Let me know when you and The Duke of Earl are ready to come out of the minor leagues and stop riding the coattails of Coldblooded and 2-0-Sixx and actually contribute something to the forum :knockout:

 

[ColdBlooded]

That is why I also posted a link to the Miami Herald. I could have picked a number of different publications to reference, but apparently the Miami Herald was the publication to break this story. This information is all over the net, but that particular blog did the best job of summarizing it.

I did not claim that the information was accurate when I posted the article. I simple posted something that has been making a splash on the net to entice similar discussion here without (and still having not) offering any personal opinion on the content of the article or its validity.

I didn’t say you personally had an opinion on it nor did I offer mine. I found the sources quite dubious and wondered how they obtained their information.

The blog linking to a blog was the kind of thing I expected to see.

The Miami Herald I expected would have some kind of source for their story, but them using The Nuevo Herald as a source is the same thing as them using The Miami Herald as a source. (guess I need to further lower my opinion of their paper) Then I went to the Nuevo Herald website and tried to find where they got their information from, but there was no article that referenced Chavez or Venezuela on the date that the Miami Herald article used as a source(in the brief time I looked I couldn’t even find an article on ANY date that matched the type of information referenced in the Miami Herald article).

I think this is a good example of why the Miami Herald has little to no relevance as a media source for anything related to Venezuela or Cuba (and increasingly Latin America as a whole). They are so corrupted by their (and their reader’s) hatred for the two countries that they can’t act as even a reasonably biased news source. Fox “news” would be a more reliable source for information on the democratic party or Barak Obama than the Miami Herald on Venezuela or Cuba.

I haven’t seen this anywhere from any kind of a more respected news source (can’t say I’ve looked though), but I would be interested to see what their source would be if they had one. It is the kind of thing that would be nice to fact check, but I think the number of extremely biased sources “reporting” on the story makes it a joke/waste of time to do.

My opinion on this is it may be true and it may not be true – but that’s why I looked for sources, not necessarily to discredit you in anyway, but to find out for myself if it were true.

I would offer the thought that the Presidential budget of Venezuela may need to be increased due in part to security. Chavez is more of a target now then either of the Castro bro’s so the level of security he needs is pretty extreme and undoubtedly expensive. A number of those things listen could be/should be tied to security.

 

[The Duke of Earl]

Let me know when you and The Duke of Earl are ready to come out of the minor leagues and stop riding the coattails of Coldblooded and 2-0-Sixx and actually contribute something to the forum :knockout:

FUCK YOU

 

[Dhadnot]

That is why I also posted a link to the Miami Herald. I could have picked a number of different publications to reference, but apparently the Miami Herald was the publication to break this story. This information is all over the net, but that particular blog did the best job of summarizing it.




I did not claim that the information was accurate when I posted the article. I simple posted something that has been making a splash on the net to entice similar discussion here without (and still having not) offering any personal opinion on the content of the article or its validity.



It is a logical fallacy to discount the possible truth in something based on the source.

Just because a liar says something, does not inherently make what he said a lie.



What is happening in Venezuela is not much different from what happened when religion got its foothold or what happens all over the world including in the US. Its human's opportunistic tendency. If you can't make it in business try religion. If you can't make it in religion or business, try politics.

Take a look at 2-0-Sixx's Cambodia thread for a great example of abusing religion to gain and maintain power.

Don't you find it ironic that you are disregarding the article I posted because of the anti-Chavez sentiment of their sources, however you are not disregarding articles from your sources because of their pro-Chavez sources?



LOL

Great input.

Let me know when you and The Duke of Earl are ready to come out of the minor leagues and stop riding the coattails of Coldblooded and 2-0-Sixx and actually contribute something to the forum :knockout:

Lol, I knew you were going to say that, but I actually don't ride any coattails, I contribute to what I feel like -we've debated briefly and no one bested the other... I type stupid shit when I feel like, etc. so save all the coattail talk you always use. There's a certain type of GOM thread I usually get to the nitty gritty on and this thread doesn't fit the bill. So stop using the same knuckleball and curveball and come anew old timer. And playing Devil's Advocate is only cute sometimes:knockout:.

 

[Dhadnot]

And the funny thing about it was the "OWNED!" wasn't meant for you, it was meant for the facetious article...oh well.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

It is a logical fallacy to discount the possible truth in something based on the source.

Just because a liar says something, does not inherently make what he said a lie.

I merely stated it's interesting to note who the source is and placed the word findings in quotations, as to imply there could be a sinister motive behind the publication, as the man has had a nasty history with Chavez in the past and is part of his opposition.

Personally, I'll need more evidence than that to take this kind of "news" seriously. It seems to be the kind of trash news you'd see on Fox News or something, but like CB has pointed out the Miami Herold is actually quite worse.

 

[Miro]

What is happening in Venezuela is not much different from what happened when religion got its foothold or what happens all over the world including in the US. Its human's opportunistic tendency. If you can't make it in business try religion. If you can't make it in religion or business, try politics.

Take a look at 2-0-Sixx's Cambodia thread for a great example of abusing religion to gain and maintain power.

Don't you find it ironic that you are disregarding the article I posted because of the anti-Chavez sentiment of their sources, however you are not disregarding articles from your sources because of their pro-Chavez sources?

no the majority of the poeple were tired of the old ways, when chavez came back as president during the coup attempt, it was the grassroots organizations that brought him back.

yes your articles present anti chavez sentiment and are backed by coporate forces that do not want him in power, the sources i presented were based on donations or people doing it for the sake of delivering the truth, not just for the sake of profit.

 

[MEXCOM]

Let me know when you and The Duke of Earl are ready to come out of the minor leagues and stop riding the coattails of Coldblooded and 2-0-Sixx and actually contribute something to the forum :knockout:

BWAHAHAHA!

This quote is made of pure win.