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May 5, 2002
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...had a very close friend or relative flip a 180 and you lost them because of their newfound religious beliefs?

I can't go into a great deal of detail, so here are the basics:

A friend of mine had a spiritual crisis in her household this past week, and now she is full-on into God and church and the Catholic religion. Now, she's questioning if I might be evil and has 180-degree changed several other things that made her who she was.

In all seriousness, I'm bugged out.

I understand that people have those life-defining moments or paradigm shifts that occur, and I'm not going to judge her for hers, but it's like she's a totally different person. I have counted on her for years to be a certain way, and out of nowhere, that person has vanished. I think I'm losing a friend because of religion.

Any advice as to how to handle this, because I'm honestly a little freaked out about it. I don't knock anyone's religion or choices, but something about the God thing and how quickly people change and write others off over it--it just seems eerie.
 
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I'm not mad at her. I honestly feel bad for her. I don't mind religious people, but I don't think people should be compelled to be "good" because they want to go to heaven. It's like the carrot and the stick bribery thing. "Be a good girl and Santa will come!"--not "Be a good girl because it's the right thing to do regardless!"

She said she doesn't think I'm evil but she isn't sure. Everyone around her she thinks is evil. There is a guilt, paranoia, fear complex that shackles itself to organized religion and it's something I'll never understand now that I've learned my way out of it.
 
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Yes, we spoke last night. That's when she unleashed all of this. I told her she needs to do what she needs to do to figure things out and that I'm not going to interfere, but I also said I'm not going to change who I am to fit into her new life. I don't even really know what to say to her other than that. It's so outlandish, and being that I haven't gone through what she is going through, I can't relate at all. I'm trying my best to not be hurt or offended because I love her, but it's hard not to be a bit confused and angry.
 
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Fortunately no.

God is his only friend now, leave her be.

She is question if you are evil? What the fuck. Slap her back into reality.

lol
indeed, if the friend is gonna be like that, fuck her, no joke. god teaches not to be judgmental like that, and not to turn your bakc on your neighbor, blah blah blah, there are hella quotes from the bible that suggests she should not turn on you in this manor
 
Aug 15, 2003
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She is in search for what is Holy and that is Profound. She will go what i went threw and find the hyprocrits that will tell her that it is wrong for someone who has already been proved wrong to find what is right just don't let yourself become a part of that.

With the world being like it is on the brink of destruction, well she's just getting ready for it threw faith. I commend her for burning her bridges and standing her ground. I feel like i'm in the same position as her and my suggestion towards you is just don't try to capture her in that what she is doing is something wrong even with the strong temptation of losing a freind. She is testing your friendship in search of the Truth and she knows if your friendship is true it will hold up till the end, so just show patience and endure with the hardships she's going threw. The only thing wrong she might be doing i see, she might be judging you. If that is the case give her nothing to Judge and find the boundries between you two.

I don't want to preach but thanks for giving me to the opprutinity to express myself threw your question.
 
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You are who you are, if your friend flipped 180 on you, that sucks and i dont know what I would do. Time will tell, is the only way I see it. I mean, if you were there for her, then she flipped on you, and you are still there, but she thinks your evil... Then thats on her, for being oblivious. Good luck
 
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Religion...


it can easily be misunderstood,


i recomend you to visit

www.rickross.com

its a website that talks about dangerous groups, and how to deal with them

another good link is

http://www.cultsoncampus.com/restohiggrou.html
(^^^good info, but im skeptic about this one)

a lot of groups can be dangerous,

for the mentally weak, or the unexperienced

if you want some more stuff, you can pm me



Believing in Christ is not meant to get her away from her family and friends

then religion becomes misunderstood

some abuse the act of "sacrafice" as a way to abuse a person's faith

financially, sexually etc..


....Plus, she will evidently fall... tear apart in about 3 to 4 years

she will emotionally erupt

the need to sin becomes so great that a person usually becomes a rapist, drug addict, killer or all of the above

ive seen it happen so many, many times

specially in my family(cousins)

its so sad


i dont reccomend you call the number on the website tho,

or if you call, keep skeptic,

it might be a cult itself!!!!
 
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Actually I am going through a very similar situation right now.

My cousin is a Christian and he is Gay. He has the nerve to ask me why I don't believe in God? Im like, how in the hell could you????

5000
 
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no, that is not what I meant and I apologize I left out certain things.

My cousin believes in the biblical God and takes the bible very literally. So when I say he believes in God, I am saying he believes in the God who....according to the bible....doesn't do homosexuality.

I think anyone can believe in God. But don't be a homosexual of any sort and try to preach to me about the biblical God because that God flat out denounces homosexuality in the bible.

my bad for leaving that out....
 
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There is a guilt, paranoia, fear complex that shackles itself to organized religion and it's something I'll never understand now that I've learned my way out of it.
I dont know. Growing up in the church and in a church family, I think Christians and Muslims get generalized far too much. Many I know are extremely chill, understanding, and down to earth people.

I am basically an agnostic, but I havent lost respect for many of the adherents to major religions.

Im gonna take a shot in the dark and say the girl is Hispanic, and her newfound Catholicism is of the 'ay dios mio' variety, which is sort of like a voodooish good and evil spirits thing. I dont know if it is really representative of all organized religion.

In addition, anyone who takes up a religion and abandons everyone around them is either a kook, or joining a cult. She may also be bipolar.
 
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Hmm, that's a tough situation. Fortunately most all my friends/family are atheists/agnostics and I haven't had to deal with this situation, although some of my friends had similar issues, in particular one comrade comes from a Jehovah Witness family and his mom basically disowned him for a couple years after he told her he didn't believe in that shit anymore. She eventually came around though, it just takes some time. I suspect that if she is a true friend of ours she'll do the same eventially.

Just remember - people are stupid.
 
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lmao @ the "ay dios mio" variety. Its true, its true.

I have never had a friend pull this switch on me, although it did happen to girl I had a fling with in college. She wasn't that much to me at the time, so the whole situation was just a big "oh well".