MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
@HERESY
Is Samael Lucifer or just another devil/angel? I mean Satan is more the equivalent of a title. Devil only describes 'what he is,' and Lucifer is more of a mislabeling.
"SATAN" is not lucifer. SATAN (THE fallen angel and not "title"/adversary) is often listed as Belial, Belzeebub, Belzebul,
Salamiel,Samiel, Samsapeel, Salamierl, Sier, Samshiel and Satanil.
Now depending on what you're reading these names may actually be listed seperate and NOT as the same being. Does he exist? yes, he was a seraphim (HIGHEST ranking angels) and is not "bound" yet.
@Camby when the WATCHERS sinned they left their place, chose women for wives, had children and gave mankind "knowledge". When you see the "gods" of egypt and the "gods" of roman/greek myth they always trace back to the watchers. Lately I've been doing more reading about egypt and the origins of the "gods" they believed in. The more I read the more I find they were THE Watchers. All of them? No because most of them are ETHIOPIAN dieties, or dieties made/instituted by the ruling dynasties.
Ta-Netershould be something of interest if you want more info.
Depending on what you read (I always say this because different sects/cannon may have different versions) Nephillim are either the off spring of the watchers and humans, or they ARE watchers. You should find Enoch 1 and Enoch 2 as they will shed more light on who they are.
6:1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters.
2 And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men
Heres more.
7: 1 And all the others together with them (this indicates their armies did follow them) took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms
2 and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they
3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed
4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against
5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and
6 fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood (cannibalism). Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.
And you can find this in chapter 15:
8 And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon
9 the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling. Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men and from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin;
10 they shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits shall they be called. [As for the spirits of heaven, in heaven shall be their dwelling, but as for the spirits of the earth which were born upon the earth, on the earth shall be their dwelling.]
11 And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble: they take no food, but nevertheless
12 hunger and thirst, and cause offences. And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them.
As I suggested before snatch the books of enoch.
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