Boxing News Thread

  • Wanna Join? New users you can now register lightning fast using your Facebook or Twitter accounts.
May 13, 2002
49,944
47,801
113
44
Seattle
www.socialistworld.net
we already know they were close to signing the first time, everything was agreed on then floyd suddenly brought up the drug demands and they couldn't agree on a cut off date. in hindsight obviously pac should have took it since he's agreed to everything now and wont get a 50/50
 
Jul 24, 2005
12,836
2,137
0
45
Tarver: If Kayode comes at me in a reckless manner he’ll get knocked out
June 2nd, 2012

By Dan Ambrose: IBO cruiserweight champion Antonio Tarver (29-6, 20 KO’s) defends his title tonight against #2 WBA, #8 WBO, #9 IBF cruiserweight contender Lateef Kayode (18-0, 14 KO’s) at the Home Depot Center in Carson, California.

Tarver, 43, isn’t too worried about what Kayode will be bringing to the fight because he sees him as too flawed and too inexperienced to do much in this fight.

Tarver said to theledger.com “This guy is predicting he’s coming to knock me out in the fifth round. If he comes in with that kind of recklessness, he can be out before that because he’s never been hit by someone who can punch as hard as me. I’m a sharpshooter man, target oriented.”

Instead of worrying about the heavily muscled Kayode, Tarver is already targeting his next hoped for fight against IBF/WBA/WBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko. Tarver wants to make quick work of Kayode without breaking a sweat and then shoot for a fight against the 6’6″ Wladimir, who at this point in his career may be the best heavyweight on the planet now that his brother WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko is finally starting to show his age.

At yesterday’s weigh-in, Tarver looked a little flabby around the midsection compared to the muscular Kayode. In looking at the two fighters it’s hard to imagine that Tarver could beat a fighter in as excellent shape as Kayode. However, this is a boxing match and not a bodybuilding contest.

Tarver is the much more accomplished fighter and the higher skilled boxer of the two. Kayode has one chance and that’s to try and wear Tarver down and take him out. Barring that, Kayode will get out-boxed tonight and will go home a loser.
 
Jul 24, 2005
12,836
2,137
0
45
Exclusive Interview With IBF Light-Heavyweight King Tavoris Cloud - “If Pascal Stands In Front Of Me He’s In Trouble”

By James Slater - As fans know and are very excited about, light-heavyweight warriors Tavoris Cloud and Jean Pascal will rumble in Montreal, Canada on August 11th. Unbeaten IBF king Cloud will travel to defend his crown, and former world 175-pound ruler Pascal will do his best to take it.

Cloud, as fearsome a puncher as you could name today, is expecting an exciting fight and no way does the 30-year-old Floridian see himself losing. Cloud, 24-0(19) is in training already, and the man who will be making the 5th defence of his belt can’t wait for August.

Very kindly taking the time to speak with me from his hotel room yesterday evening (U.K time), Tavoris had the following things to say: James Slater: Thanks so much for taking the time to speak with me, Champ! We’re all excited about your upcoming fight with Jean Pascal. It’s fair to say this is the biggest fight of your career so far, even to you?

Tavoris Cloud: Yes, I’d say this fight, which will be my fifth defence, in Montreal, against a marquee name, is the biggest so far. Yeah, I agree with that..

J.S: And you’re happy to go to Canada, you expect to be able to take the fight out of the hands of the judges. But even if it goes to the cards, you expect to be treated fairly?

T.C: Well, I’m not expecting to be treated in any special way. I’m expecting to be treated like a guy who is coming to another fighter’s home town. I mean, I should be treated fairly, but I’m going to take this fight out of everybody’s hands. I feel this is a good fight for me: the added pressure of fighting in his home town, the pressure of the magnitude of this fight. It all puts positive stress on me. I need stress to perform.

J.S: Are you expecting a tough, physical fight - a toe-to-toe type fight?

T.C: I’m looking forward to a good fight. You can never say what the other guy will do when I get in the ring with them. But anyone who goes toe-to-toe with Tavoris Cloud will have a hard night; a short night or a long night, but a hard night. Pascal’s style isn’t that hard to figure out. This fight is made for action.

J.S: Will a win on August 11th make you the best light-heavyweight out there?

T.C: Maybe to all the other people out there it will, but to me, I knew I was the best when I turned pro in 2004.

J.S: And when you win, will all the name fighters that you’ve wanted to fight before have to come to you? You’ll be the man!

T.C: When I win, hopefully it will go that way, but I’ve learnt [laughs] that things don’t always go the way they’re supposed to go in boxing. I’ve been signed to fight certain big names yet the fights never actually came. But after I win, if that happens and the big marquee names don’t come, I’ll just continue to fight, to defend my title. The big names really don’t matter. I’m all for the fans. I’ll always keep on putting on great fights for the fans. They’re what really matter and Tavoris Cloud is the most exciting fighter in the light-heavyweight division.

J.S: I couldn’t agree more! How much do you like Pascal and his style? What fights of his have you seen?

T.C: I’m not impressed by Pascal at all. I don’t really watch his fights. He’s a good young fighter; one of the newer faces that came about after the changing of the guard. At one point in time there was only Chad Dawson, then me, then [Beibut] Shumenov and [Nathan] Cleverly - all these young guys. He’s [Pascal] just one of the names; a good talent. Pascal’s style will make for an exciting fight against me.

J.S: Can you become the first man to stop Pascal?

T.C: Most definitely. I can do this. If I hit Pascal with the wrong shot at the wrong time, he’s outta there! It’s no secret that Pascal doesn’t hit like a normal light-heavyweight. If he stands in front of me he’s in trouble.

J.S: When will you start hard training?

T.C: I’ve been training hard. I’ve been training for the last five or six weeks. I’m in camp right now. Let me tell you, Tavoris Cloud will be ready to go. I’ll be in rare form. This win will make a statement in the light-heavyweight division.

J.S: Thanks for your time, Champ. And best of luck for August 11th.

T.C: Thank you. Bye.
 
Feb 3, 2006
3,426
855
113
43
we already know they were close to signing the first time, everything was agreed on then floyd suddenly brought up the drug demands and they couldn't agree on a cut off date. in hindsight obviously pac should have took it since he's agreed to everything now and wont get a 50/50
Floyd asked for random testing from the beginning of negotiation stop acting like OST was some zero hour demand that Mayweather made up. The only problem was the cut-off days. Mayweather wanted full random testing and Manny wanted 30-day no test window. Mayweather's final offer was 14-day no test window and Manny walked away from the fight.
 
Jul 24, 2005
12,836
2,137
0
45
40-year-old Shane Mosley retires from boxing
June 3rd, 2012

By Dan Ambrose: 40-year-old former three division world champion Shane Mosley (46-8-1, 39 KO’s) has reportedly retired as of today, according to RingTV. Mosley, who turns 41 in September, was recently dominated by WBC junior middleweight champion Saul Alvarez in a one-sided 12 round decision loss last month on May 5th.

Mosley told RingTV “When the kids start beating you up, maybe it’s time to start promoting.”

Mosley plans on working as a promoter from now on. He’s made enough money to never have to work again just from his loss to Manny Pacquiao last year, but he’s not one to sit and do nothing with his life.

Mosley’s friend Hassan Abdulrahim told RingTV “Shane Mosley has officially retired, and he’s going to go into the promotional side of the sport.”

The high point of Mosley’s career was his first victory over Oscar De La Hoya in in June 2000. Mosley would later beat De La Hoya again in 2003 in a controversial decision. However, Shane had problems against fighters Ronald “Winky” Wright and Vernon Forrest, losing to both fighters twice each.

Mosley’s career tanked after he decided to sit out of the sport for a year after beating WBA Super World welterweight champion Antonio Margarito in January 2009. Instead of staying active, Mosley sat out a year until coming back in May of 2010, and losing to Floyd Mayweather Jr. by a lopsided decision. Mosley looked like he’d aged in that time off from the sport and he never seemed to come back from that.

He fought equally poorly in a controversial 12 round draw against Sergio Mora in September 2010. Following that, Mosley came back seven months later and was easily beaten by Manny Pacquiao in May of last year. Mosley then took another year off and came back against Saul Alvarez and was totally dominated in a 12 round decision loss.
 
Mar 24, 2006
4,804
476
0
45
40-year-old Shane Mosley retires from boxing
June 3rd, 2012

By Dan Ambrose: 40-year-old former three division world champion Shane Mosley (46-8-1, 39 KO’s) has reportedly retired as of today, according to RingTV. Mosley, who turns 41 in September, was recently dominated by WBC junior middleweight champion Saul Alvarez in a one-sided 12 round decision loss last month on May 5th.

Mosley told RingTV “When the kids start beating you up, maybe it’s time to start promoting.”

Mosley plans on working as a promoter from now on. He’s made enough money to never have to work again just from his loss to Manny Pacquiao last year, but he’s not one to sit and do nothing with his life.

Mosley’s friend Hassan Abdulrahim told RingTV “Shane Mosley has officially retired, and he’s going to go into the promotional side of the sport.”

The high point of Mosley’s career was his first victory over Oscar De La Hoya in in June 2000. Mosley would later beat De La Hoya again in 2003 in a controversial decision. However, Shane had problems against fighters Ronald “Winky” Wright and Vernon Forrest, losing to both fighters twice each.

Mosley’s career tanked after he decided to sit out of the sport for a year after beating WBA Super World welterweight champion Antonio Margarito in January 2009. Instead of staying active, Mosley sat out a year until coming back in May of 2010, and losing to Floyd Mayweather Jr. by a lopsided decision. Mosley looked like he’d aged in that time off from the sport and he never seemed to come back from that.

He fought equally poorly in a controversial 12 round draw against Sergio Mora in September 2010. Following that, Mosley came back seven months later and was easily beaten by Manny Pacquiao in May of last year. Mosley then took another year off and came back against Saul Alvarez and was totally dominated in a 12 round decision loss.


Thank god. I didn't want to witness my favorite fighter of this era getting embarrassed any longer.



Proud Mosley fan right here.
 
Jul 24, 2005
12,836
2,137
0
45
Roach: If Pacquiao looks bad against Bradley, I’ll tell him to retire
June 3rd, 2012

By Chris Williams: The Manny Pacquiao (54-3-2, 38 KO’s) gravy train could potentially come to a screeching halt this Saturday night if he loses to undefeated Timothy Bradley (28-0, 12 KO’s).

Pacquiao has already had four consecutive less than spectacular outings and his last one against Juan Manuel Marquez was good enough for him to deserve a big ‘L’ on his record but two of the judges thought Pacquiao well enough to win.

Roach told the Associated Press “If he [Pacquiao] looks bad, he retires. At least I’ll tell him to, And he may be the first one to listen to me.”

I don’t think for a second that Pacquiao will retire if he gets beaten by Bradley, even if he really does listen to Roach and like the idea. The problem is Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum will likely resist the idea of his biggest money maker hanging up his gloves permanently, I can see him persuading Pacquiao to fight on, albeit against his beatable Top Rank stable fighters.

If Arum puts Pacquiao on the easy road of facing one after another of his Top Rank fighters, Arum might be able to drag Pacquiao’s career out for another three years. Look what Arum did with Miguel Cotto. After he got whipped by Antonio Margarito and Pacquiao, Arum put Cotto on easy street for the next two years, matching him against one easy opponent after another until Cotto eventually left Top Rank and was immediately beaten by Floyd Mayweather Jr. in his first fight away from Top Ran.

Roach isn’t too worried about Bradley beating the money man Pacquia, saying to AP “Manny should eat him up…I think Manny should look really good in this fight.”
 
Jul 24, 2005
12,836
2,137
0
45
Sugar” Shane And "Winky": Both Hall of Fame-Bound?

By James Slater - Fans have read by now that both “Sugar” Shane Mosley and Ronald “Winky” Wright have decided to call it quits in their excellent careers; both men announcing their decision to walk away at the age of 40. No-one will disagree with the logic both special fighters have applied, as both former champs had been on the slide for some time.

It was back in January of 2009 when Mosley put on his last great performance, brutally stopping Mexican warrior Antonio Margarito in the 9th-round of what was an upset.. While Wright’s last good showing came back in December of 2006, when the gifted southpaw widely out-pointed Ike Quartey. Both fighters carried on after their big wins, and it took Mosley’s one-sided (but exciting) loss to new star Saul Alvarez along with Wright’s weekend loss to Peter Quillin to persuade the pair to hang ‘em up.

Now that both men have fought their last, the debate will begin over just how great Mosley and Wright (who shared the ring together on two occasions, with Winky’s skills having the edge both times) were. After the necessary five years of retirement have passed, will both guys get the call to give an induction speech at Canastota as they become immortalised with all the other superb Hall of Famers? For what it’s worth, I’d vote a big yes for both guys.

Mosley is one of the best light-weights of recent years, his speed and power allowing him to win nine IBF title fights at 135. Mosley never lost as a lightweight and it’s possible, had he not gone after the big money at welterweight - where he managed a truly big win over Oscar De La Hoya - he would have stayed there and kept his perfect record for a long number of years.

Mosley also picked up big wins as a 154-pounder: his rematch win over De La Hoya most noticeably. Then dropping back down to 147 to destroy Margarito, Mosley’s losses to the late Vernon Forrest, to Wright, to Miguel Cotto (a close decision loss), to Floyd Mayweather, to Manny Pacquiao and to Alvarez should not be held too strongly against him. Mosley was considerably past his best by the time of his last three defeats. At 46-8-1(39) and for all he did at 135 and 147-pounds, Mosley deserves to go into The Hall.

As for Wright, he reigned for years and years at his natural 154-pounds. Winning four fights that contested the WBO crown and then an impressive five bouts that contested the IBF title, and then two fights that were for the unified WBC/WBA and IBF titles, Winky beat notable fighters such as: Mosley (twice) and then Felix Trinidad and Quartey up at middleweight. Winky also boxed a draw with unbeaten middleweight king Jermain Taylor, in June of 2006.

Forced to take his show on the road in the earlier days of his career, due to his tricky, formidable style making it tough for Wright to get the big fights, the southpaw finally got his big break in late 1999; losing (some say Winky was robbed) a majority decision to Fernando Vargas. As with Mosley, the last three defeats on Wright’s record (to Bernard Hopkins, when Winky was way above his natural weight class at 170, Paul Williams and Quillin) should not be held against him. In his prime, the only time that really matters when judging any fighter, Wright more than made his mark

As with Sugar, you can put Wright, 51-6-1(25) right in The Hall on the first ballot!
 
May 25, 2009
2,403
485
83
38
thank god mosley retired always been a piece of shit in my book, i mean his biggest wins were over de la hoya but then he later confessed he was juicing during those fights so fuck him only win that bum ever gets credit for is the margarito win.
 
Jul 24, 2005
12,836
2,137
0
45
Fans Can Write To Floyd Mayweather In Jail! Miss Jackson Tweets Floyd’s Address

By James Slater: Ever fancied writing a letter to boxing superstar Floyd Mayweather Junior but felt as though the Pound-for-Pound king would not find the time to read it? Well, now may be the best time to send Floyd a message and be assured that “Money” will actually take the time to read it.

With the 35-year-old currently incarcerated in a Las Vegas prison, the boxing master is sure to have plenty of spare, idle time on his hands. His fiancé, sensing this, took it upon herself to Tweet out Floyd’s prison ID, and Shantel Jackson, AKA Miss Jackson, has urged fans to write to Mayweather. Jackson requested “Positive letters please.”

The address, as has been reported by Black Sports online, is as follows:

ID# 01363917, Clark County Detention Centre, 330 S Casino Centre Blvd, Las Vegas NV 89101.

Whether or not Floyd will be permitted to reply to your message, I don’t know, but if you’re a Mayweather fan, why not write to him? I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if, in a month or so, it is reported that Mayweather has received a record number of letters and messages. I won’t be surprised, either, if some fight fans choose to ignore the “positive letters please” request and send in a ton of hate mail.

No fighter has inspired as much controversy, excitement, debate, love, hate, anger, passion, and just sheer interest as Floyd has. Not in recent years, anyway.

I wonder if Manny Pacquiao will take the time to write to Mayweather Junior!
 

Tony

Sicc OG
May 15, 2002
13,165
970
113
46
Yeah, Pacquiao ducked Floyd, period. The contract was written up and ready to be signed. 50/50 split, Floyd even split the cut off date by coming down from the day of to 14-days.

Now that time has gone by, Floyd has proven to be the bigger draw, so he's asking for the bigger share, nothing wrong there in my opinion. Some of us had been saying Pacquiao should've taken the deal when it was on the table (since he agreed to the drug testing, after using the drug testing "excuse" to duck the fight).

Why did he turn it down then two years later agree? It's obvious Pacquiao wanted the same contract offer but didn't get it.... so it's Pacquiao's fault that the fight didn't happen.
 
Feb 3, 2006
3,426
855
113
43
Tony-it's a no brainer Manny don't want that ass whipping Mayweather is going to give him. I've been saying it for 3 years now, if you're a clean boxer you shouldn't have problem with random drug testing. And if your highest boxing payday is $25 million including PPV reveune, then you should have no problem taking $40 million to fight. Only a Mayweather hater or Manny dickrider will say other wise on those two points. I mean the media don't even believe Top Rank's bullshit excuses anymore. I find it funny that all the Manny nuthugger that called us dickriders have disappeared after the Mayweather vs. Cotto fight and the PED users getting busted by random testing. It's funny because whenever I prove these guys wrong (which is most of the time) they always disappear or change the subject quick..
 
May 13, 2002
49,944
47,801
113
44
Seattle
www.socialistworld.net
Yeah, Pacquiao ducked Floyd, period. The contract was written up and ready to be signed. 50/50 split, Floyd even split the cut off date by coming down from the day of to 14-days.

Now that time has gone by, Floyd has proven to be the bigger draw, so he's asking for the bigger share, nothing wrong there in my opinion. Some of us had been saying Pacquiao should've taken the deal when it was on the table (since he agreed to the drug testing, after using the drug testing "excuse" to duck the fight).

Why did he turn it down then two years later agree? It's obvious Pacquiao wanted the same contract offer but didn't get it.... so it's Pacquiao's fault that the fight didn't happen.
hindsight is a hell of a thing bro. at the time it seemed like floyd was being a dickhead with the test demands since it was never done before in boxing. fast forward to now and floyd has used it in all of his fights since and a number of other guys have done the same, so the game is changing. thank floyd for starting it.

floyd getting more of the money now is fine and dandy the problem will be how much does he deserve, he'll definitely need to back off the 100% of the ppv crap, and what weight. if floyd wants to stay at 154 that's his right to do so if he wants but. pac has the right to stay at 147. still a lot of stuff to iron out.
 
Mar 30, 2011
482
30
0
44
what do you mean it hasn't been done before? didn't you watch vargas / de la hoya? i know you read back on tommy morrison story he didn't even know how he got teh aids saying it mighta been roids or hoes?

blood tests are always done not just recently but that's not what i'm talking about. maybe there's a process you mean to say in what they are doing now.