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Despite the fact that most of us believe that Pacquiao won both fights by a wide margin, there are still those who believe that Bradley really won the first fight (don't ask me how, I thought he won 3 rounds at best in the first fight and was dominated again in the 2nd). If Pacquiao dominates, the book is closed on this issue. If Bradley wins, TR gets to say that he was better than we gave him credit for all along and has "2 wins" against Pacquiao and they try to leverage that to get him bigger fights in the future in a sport that could use another "star" right now
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I agree, I'm just saying that from TR's standpoint, it could be why they did it. They're about to lose their biggest earner in the last 10 years so they might be praying Bradley wins and goes on to have some other PPV fights? I can't call it. To anyone in their right mind, the 3rd fight makes no sense.
Though, for as much crap as Teddy has talked about Pacquiao in the last 3-5 years, it would be great to see Pac ice Bradley just because lol It would be reminiscent of Floyd Sr. talkin mad trash and Hatton getting iced in the 2nd round.
Though, for as much crap as Teddy has talked about Pacquiao in the last 3-5 years, it would be great to see Pac ice Bradley just because lol It would be reminiscent of Floyd Sr. talkin mad trash and Hatton getting iced in the 2nd round.
If it wasn't going to be Pac Vs. Crawford then I don't mind this fight. I like this fight a ton better then the proposed Pac Vs. Broner nonsense being thrown out there. I don't understand why they didn't go with Crawford, it's as obvious a passing of the torch situation as you can get with a guy that is crushing attendance in his hometown.
Also would be better if Pac & Bradley were the consensus 1/2 of the divisions and this could be a lineal fight.
Also would be better if Pac & Bradley were the consensus 1/2 of the divisions and this could be a lineal fight.
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Because its Pac's farewell fight. I don't think Pac is trying to prove or achieve anything here, just one last fight for himself and his fans. Because of that, many including myself feel it should be an entertaining affair and Broner would be a good option for that and he would give Pacquiao an opportunity to look great in the ring giving his fans an entertaining, memorable retirement fight. Bradley doesn't do that, they've fought twice and neither were particularly great fights, there styles don't really mesh together well and the overwhelming majority of people thought Pacquiao won fairly easy both times. The only thing this fight does is give Bradley a huge opportunity to take advantage of the situation by fighting an old Pacquiao who's set to retire, possibly an unmotivated Pacquiao at that. It just doesn't make a lot of sense given what this fight is.
The Crawford fight is much better out of the two in the passing of the torch sense, but it doesn't look like Pacquiao felt like being used to pass the torch lol.
The Crawford fight is much better out of the two in the passing of the torch sense, but it doesn't look like Pacquiao felt like being used to pass the torch lol.
Maybe you're right. I've never been one for the whole "make sense" aspect for a fighter's career. I'm just glad when a fight between 2 of the top welterweights take place and in this case 2 of the best.
I think he'll be motivated no matter who fights to rebound for that performance he turned in against Floyd.
I really wanted to see Pac Vs. Crawford and I'm surprised they didn't go for it either. Normally torch passing fights are made because the guy passing the torch doesn't see it that way. Besides Pac/Crawford or Pac/Khan I really don't care who he fights, just glad it's a top guy.
I think he'll be motivated no matter who fights to rebound for that performance he turned in against Floyd.
I really wanted to see Pac Vs. Crawford and I'm surprised they didn't go for it either. Normally torch passing fights are made because the guy passing the torch doesn't see it that way. Besides Pac/Crawford or Pac/Khan I really don't care who he fights, just glad it's a top guy.
JULIAN WILLIAMS: "READY TO GET THAT WORLD TITLE...I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO GO SOME TIME IN FEBRUARY"
By Percy Crawford | January 05, 2016
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PC: You closed out last year very strong. What are the goals for this year pertaining to your career?
JW: I'm just looking to win a world title. That's what's next for me in my career. I done did everything else. I done beat everybody they put in front of me. I'm in the top 10 in all the sanctioning bodies; I'm just ready to get that world title.
PC: You took the tough road and fought some durable guys on your way up. I'm sure you wouldn't have had it any other way.
JW: Yeah man, I gained a lot of experience over the years fighting the guys I fought. I fought some real tough fights with those 50/50 guys coming up, so I'm happy where I stand right now with the guys that I have fought and the guys I have beaten.
PC: You want to be the first boxer and athlete to subject yourself to being tested for PEDs year round. Is this from paranoia of what you think other fighters are doing or do you just want to set the standard and steer the ship in the right direction, or both?
JW: It's not from paranoia. I just want to set the standard and hopefully everybody will get on board. I just want to clean the sport up. That's what it is all about. I think the sport definitely has some people on PEDs and that's crazy to me. It's already bad enough that you have fighters getting their life changed in a bad way just from boxing and being in a regular fight. They had the kid that died in his pro debut from Detroit, you have the thing that happened with Prichard Colon, and all of the other stories that we don't hear about from guys with detached retinas and brain injuries. We don't hear about a lot of that stuff. And then you got guys that want to use PEDs and it's just making the sport worse because it's already dangerous, so they're making it more dangerous. So I just want to help clean the sport up. I can't do it by myself.
PC: Obviously something like this takes a lot of time and money. Is it still in the preliminary phase as far as getting this idea off of the ground and making it a reality?
JW: Yeah, we are in the preliminary phase, and like I said before, it's very expensive to do it. We are going to need a bunch of sponsors to help me foot the bill basically. I'm hoping somebody sees this and wants to help out and other fighters see this and want to come on board and make this a regular thing for all of the top 10 guys.
PC: For sure. What type of work rate are you looking to put in this year; the 3 to 4 fight range?
JW: I'm pretty sure my next fight is going to be an eliminator and then after that, I'm going to fight for the title, and then after I win the title I want to defend it at least once or twice before the year is out, so I say 3 or 4 fights. That's the goal.
PC: You guys are fans first. Anything in particular stand out to you from last year from the sport of boxing?
JW: Man, I just think it was a really good year for boxing. A lot of fights got made. It was a good year for PBC in their first year. I was on it 2 times; well, I'm going to say 1 ½ because they only showed about 3 rounds of my first fight on there. But it was a big year for PBC and boxing in general. HBO had some good fights. Showtime put on some good fights. I think Deontay Wilder winning the title and becoming the first American heavyweight to bring the title back to the states in a long time. Boxing was good in '15 and I think it's headed in the right direction.
PC: I think the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight happening was a big deal no mater whether you thought the fight didn't live up to expectation or you thought it was too late; it was a big deal.
JW: That was a hell of a fight. I mean, listen, I never thought that fight was going to be Hagler-Hearns in the first place. Floyd's not going to lay around and be in that type of fight. That's just not the type of guy he is. But I heard people say it was a letdown. It wasn't a letdown for me because I understand the sport. I understand the art of boxing. It was amazing to me. I was on the edge of my seat. The only thing that pissed me off was that I was at a fight party with a bunch of knuckleheads, who ain't know nothing about boxing, screaming and yelling and I just couldn't focus like I wanted to. I'll never do it again. I don't know why I did that, but that's just what happened. But nevertheless, the fight was amazing. And how about this, it took boxing to a new light. How often do you see boxing being talked about on SportsCenter and ESPN like that? It's very few fights get talked about like that and that fight took boxing to a new level. It shattered all kinds of records, so I definitely think it was good for boxing. Forget the fight, forget the actual fight, but the event happening itself was great for the sport. Look at it like this, if an NBA player gets a $100 million contract, it's a 10-year contract. These dudes made that kind of money in 36 minutes. I'm happy for those guys, man, and they are paving the way for us and opening new doors that I didn't think could be open.
PC: Anything you looking forward to or hoping to see happen this year?
JW: Of course I could say I want judging and refereeing to be better, more so judging, but it's been bad decisions in boxing since the beginning of time. That's just a part of boxing, you know what I mean. I mean, look at the situation on HBO with Jason Sosa and Nicholas Walters. And how about this, Nicholas Walters was the A-side to that fight. I just think that bad decisions are just something that's going to happen. A lot of people don't know, but...let me see how I can put this, how I may look at a fight and how you look at a fight could be two completely different things. I may think the guy that's coming forward is winning and you might think the guy that's going backwards and circling around and boxing more is winning. It depends on what you like. By the way, I do think that was a terrible robbery and I'm actually cool with Sosa's trainer. He's a real good trainer out of Jersey. But I just call it how I see it and I thought Nicolas Walters won the fight, as did everyone else. They definitely have to do a better job with judging, so that's one thing I'm hoping to see cleaned up a little bit.
PC: You saw me going back and forth on Twitter with someone over this, but do you think the criticism PBC has faced this year is somewhat unwarranted being that it's their first year in existence and they had to see what worked and what didn't work?
JW: Definitely! The thing with PBC is they are on a lot of different networks and every fight can't be Shawn Porter vs. Keith Thurman type of fights. That is almost impossible. How about this, HBO don't put on Fight of the Year or the most compelling match-ups every broadcast. Jason Sosa is a good fighter, don't get me wrong, but he's not known; he's not on nobody's pound-for-pound list. He's never been on TV before and he gets on HBO in his first TV fight. At least I have never seen him on TV before. He jumped right to HBO and gets to fight Nicholas Walters and he fought his ass off. He fought a really good fight. But if that fight was on PBC, it would have been like, "Ah, Nicholas Walters is fighting a fukking bum. Who the fukk is this guy?" I'm just using that as an example. You can't get just barnburners on paper every time out. And how about this, some of the fights that you didn't know was going to be barnburners turned out to be good fights. I don't give a fukk what nobody say bro, PBC did good this year. They had Thurman and Guerrero, they had Shawn and Broner, they had Dirrell and DeGale. That was a good ass fight, Dirrell and DeGale. On paper, that fight was really good and then the fight was really good. Peterson-Garcia, Quillin-Jacobs, they are just never going to be satisfied. I don't give a fukk what you do, if somebody want to hate you, they're going to hate you. Leo Santa Cruz and Mares, it's like, what the fukk? No matter how good you do, no matter how much you try to please the fans, they are going to find a way to hate you. You can't please everybody. These other promoters are suing Al for hundreds of millions of dollars and he's supposed to help put money in their pockets. Don't get me wrong, I think boxing would be better off if everybody dealt with each other, but at the end of the day, they are suing the shyt out of him, so why would he work with them?
PC: What's the gym work like for you right now? Are you in the gym or taking it easy for now?
JW: Nah, man, I actually been grinding because I was supposed to fight on January 16th. So I was in full blown camp mode, cutting weight and all that. They couldn't get an opponent solidified in time, but that's a different story for another day. It's just crazy right now. I'm definitely going to go some time in February is what I'm hearing. I just had to slow everything down a little bit and then I will pick everything back up. But I'm definitely in the gym. I was hiring and paying for sparring and everything when I thought I was going January 16th, but it's boxing man and it's all a part of the game.
PC: I've kind of had the privilege to watch you grow in this game and I look forward to seeing you continue to grow. Best of luck this year and keep me posted on your next move. Is there anything you want to say before I let you go?
JW: Nah man, I just want to appreciate you for always showing me love, man, giving me interviews and on social media. And I just want to let all of the fans know to follow me on Instagram and Twitter J @Jrock boxing!
JULIAN WILLIAMS: "READY TO GET THAT WORLD TITLE...I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO GO SOME TIME IN FEBRUARY" || FIGHTHYPE.COM
By Percy Crawford | January 05, 2016
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PC: You closed out last year very strong. What are the goals for this year pertaining to your career?
JW: I'm just looking to win a world title. That's what's next for me in my career. I done did everything else. I done beat everybody they put in front of me. I'm in the top 10 in all the sanctioning bodies; I'm just ready to get that world title.
PC: You took the tough road and fought some durable guys on your way up. I'm sure you wouldn't have had it any other way.
JW: Yeah man, I gained a lot of experience over the years fighting the guys I fought. I fought some real tough fights with those 50/50 guys coming up, so I'm happy where I stand right now with the guys that I have fought and the guys I have beaten.
PC: You want to be the first boxer and athlete to subject yourself to being tested for PEDs year round. Is this from paranoia of what you think other fighters are doing or do you just want to set the standard and steer the ship in the right direction, or both?
JW: It's not from paranoia. I just want to set the standard and hopefully everybody will get on board. I just want to clean the sport up. That's what it is all about. I think the sport definitely has some people on PEDs and that's crazy to me. It's already bad enough that you have fighters getting their life changed in a bad way just from boxing and being in a regular fight. They had the kid that died in his pro debut from Detroit, you have the thing that happened with Prichard Colon, and all of the other stories that we don't hear about from guys with detached retinas and brain injuries. We don't hear about a lot of that stuff. And then you got guys that want to use PEDs and it's just making the sport worse because it's already dangerous, so they're making it more dangerous. So I just want to help clean the sport up. I can't do it by myself.
PC: Obviously something like this takes a lot of time and money. Is it still in the preliminary phase as far as getting this idea off of the ground and making it a reality?
JW: Yeah, we are in the preliminary phase, and like I said before, it's very expensive to do it. We are going to need a bunch of sponsors to help me foot the bill basically. I'm hoping somebody sees this and wants to help out and other fighters see this and want to come on board and make this a regular thing for all of the top 10 guys.
PC: For sure. What type of work rate are you looking to put in this year; the 3 to 4 fight range?
JW: I'm pretty sure my next fight is going to be an eliminator and then after that, I'm going to fight for the title, and then after I win the title I want to defend it at least once or twice before the year is out, so I say 3 or 4 fights. That's the goal.
PC: You guys are fans first. Anything in particular stand out to you from last year from the sport of boxing?
JW: Man, I just think it was a really good year for boxing. A lot of fights got made. It was a good year for PBC in their first year. I was on it 2 times; well, I'm going to say 1 ½ because they only showed about 3 rounds of my first fight on there. But it was a big year for PBC and boxing in general. HBO had some good fights. Showtime put on some good fights. I think Deontay Wilder winning the title and becoming the first American heavyweight to bring the title back to the states in a long time. Boxing was good in '15 and I think it's headed in the right direction.
PC: I think the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight happening was a big deal no mater whether you thought the fight didn't live up to expectation or you thought it was too late; it was a big deal.
JW: That was a hell of a fight. I mean, listen, I never thought that fight was going to be Hagler-Hearns in the first place. Floyd's not going to lay around and be in that type of fight. That's just not the type of guy he is. But I heard people say it was a letdown. It wasn't a letdown for me because I understand the sport. I understand the art of boxing. It was amazing to me. I was on the edge of my seat. The only thing that pissed me off was that I was at a fight party with a bunch of knuckleheads, who ain't know nothing about boxing, screaming and yelling and I just couldn't focus like I wanted to. I'll never do it again. I don't know why I did that, but that's just what happened. But nevertheless, the fight was amazing. And how about this, it took boxing to a new light. How often do you see boxing being talked about on SportsCenter and ESPN like that? It's very few fights get talked about like that and that fight took boxing to a new level. It shattered all kinds of records, so I definitely think it was good for boxing. Forget the fight, forget the actual fight, but the event happening itself was great for the sport. Look at it like this, if an NBA player gets a $100 million contract, it's a 10-year contract. These dudes made that kind of money in 36 minutes. I'm happy for those guys, man, and they are paving the way for us and opening new doors that I didn't think could be open.
PC: Anything you looking forward to or hoping to see happen this year?
JW: Of course I could say I want judging and refereeing to be better, more so judging, but it's been bad decisions in boxing since the beginning of time. That's just a part of boxing, you know what I mean. I mean, look at the situation on HBO with Jason Sosa and Nicholas Walters. And how about this, Nicholas Walters was the A-side to that fight. I just think that bad decisions are just something that's going to happen. A lot of people don't know, but...let me see how I can put this, how I may look at a fight and how you look at a fight could be two completely different things. I may think the guy that's coming forward is winning and you might think the guy that's going backwards and circling around and boxing more is winning. It depends on what you like. By the way, I do think that was a terrible robbery and I'm actually cool with Sosa's trainer. He's a real good trainer out of Jersey. But I just call it how I see it and I thought Nicolas Walters won the fight, as did everyone else. They definitely have to do a better job with judging, so that's one thing I'm hoping to see cleaned up a little bit.
PC: You saw me going back and forth on Twitter with someone over this, but do you think the criticism PBC has faced this year is somewhat unwarranted being that it's their first year in existence and they had to see what worked and what didn't work?
JW: Definitely! The thing with PBC is they are on a lot of different networks and every fight can't be Shawn Porter vs. Keith Thurman type of fights. That is almost impossible. How about this, HBO don't put on Fight of the Year or the most compelling match-ups every broadcast. Jason Sosa is a good fighter, don't get me wrong, but he's not known; he's not on nobody's pound-for-pound list. He's never been on TV before and he gets on HBO in his first TV fight. At least I have never seen him on TV before. He jumped right to HBO and gets to fight Nicholas Walters and he fought his ass off. He fought a really good fight. But if that fight was on PBC, it would have been like, "Ah, Nicholas Walters is fighting a fukking bum. Who the fukk is this guy?" I'm just using that as an example. You can't get just barnburners on paper every time out. And how about this, some of the fights that you didn't know was going to be barnburners turned out to be good fights. I don't give a fukk what nobody say bro, PBC did good this year. They had Thurman and Guerrero, they had Shawn and Broner, they had Dirrell and DeGale. That was a good ass fight, Dirrell and DeGale. On paper, that fight was really good and then the fight was really good. Peterson-Garcia, Quillin-Jacobs, they are just never going to be satisfied. I don't give a fukk what you do, if somebody want to hate you, they're going to hate you. Leo Santa Cruz and Mares, it's like, what the fukk? No matter how good you do, no matter how much you try to please the fans, they are going to find a way to hate you. You can't please everybody. These other promoters are suing Al for hundreds of millions of dollars and he's supposed to help put money in their pockets. Don't get me wrong, I think boxing would be better off if everybody dealt with each other, but at the end of the day, they are suing the shyt out of him, so why would he work with them?
PC: What's the gym work like for you right now? Are you in the gym or taking it easy for now?
JW: Nah, man, I actually been grinding because I was supposed to fight on January 16th. So I was in full blown camp mode, cutting weight and all that. They couldn't get an opponent solidified in time, but that's a different story for another day. It's just crazy right now. I'm definitely going to go some time in February is what I'm hearing. I just had to slow everything down a little bit and then I will pick everything back up. But I'm definitely in the gym. I was hiring and paying for sparring and everything when I thought I was going January 16th, but it's boxing man and it's all a part of the game.
PC: I've kind of had the privilege to watch you grow in this game and I look forward to seeing you continue to grow. Best of luck this year and keep me posted on your next move. Is there anything you want to say before I let you go?
JW: Nah man, I just want to appreciate you for always showing me love, man, giving me interviews and on social media. And I just want to let all of the fans know to follow me on Instagram and Twitter J @Jrock boxing!
JULIAN WILLIAMS: "READY TO GET THAT WORLD TITLE...I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO GO SOME TIME IN FEBRUARY" || FIGHTHYPE.COM
Danny Garcia: Imam Should Have Worried About Himself, Not Me
By Radio Rahim
Former WBA/WBC junior welterweight Danny "Swift" Garcia (31-0, 18KOs) is in the final weeks of training camps for the second fight of his welterweight campaign, on January 23rd against ex-multi division world champion Robert "The Ghost" Guerrero (33-3-1, 18KOs).
Garcia officially made the jump to welterweight last year, when he vacated his title and challenged former world champion Paulie Malignaggi. The fight was stopped in the ninth round when the referee felt that Malignaggi had taken too much punishment.
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Prior to his jump to 147, and even following the move, Garcia was getting verbally assaulted by rising junior welterweight prospect Amir Imam (18-1, 15KOs).
Imam, who was ranked as the top contender under the WBC, was inching his way to a shot at a mandatory shot at Garcia's old title. The vacant belt was won by Viktor Postol, who was given permission to make a voluntary defense and then had to face Imam.
The young up and comer booked a "stay-busy" fight against Adrian Granados on November 28th, but things did not go as planned. After getting off to a fast start, Imam faded down the stretch and was knocked out in the eight round.
Garcia says Imam should have stopped worrying about business that had nothing to do with him and instead placed his focus elsewhere.
"That's the kid who called me a cherry picker. It's not as easy as it looks. You could say I've never fought nobody, but you're supposed to be somebody and you lose - I'm like 'you shouldn't be worried about me, you should be worried about yourself.' Because realistically in boxing he's the prospect and he's supposed to win that fight. He's supposed to fight for a world title. So don't worry about Danny Garcia, worry about yourself. I'm not at 140 no more anyway, I'm at 147," Garcia said.
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By Radio Rahim
Former WBA/WBC junior welterweight Danny "Swift" Garcia (31-0, 18KOs) is in the final weeks of training camps for the second fight of his welterweight campaign, on January 23rd against ex-multi division world champion Robert "The Ghost" Guerrero (33-3-1, 18KOs).
Garcia officially made the jump to welterweight last year, when he vacated his title and challenged former world champion Paulie Malignaggi. The fight was stopped in the ninth round when the referee felt that Malignaggi had taken too much punishment.
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Prior to his jump to 147, and even following the move, Garcia was getting verbally assaulted by rising junior welterweight prospect Amir Imam (18-1, 15KOs).
Imam, who was ranked as the top contender under the WBC, was inching his way to a shot at a mandatory shot at Garcia's old title. The vacant belt was won by Viktor Postol, who was given permission to make a voluntary defense and then had to face Imam.
The young up and comer booked a "stay-busy" fight against Adrian Granados on November 28th, but things did not go as planned. After getting off to a fast start, Imam faded down the stretch and was knocked out in the eight round.
Garcia says Imam should have stopped worrying about business that had nothing to do with him and instead placed his focus elsewhere.
"That's the kid who called me a cherry picker. It's not as easy as it looks. You could say I've never fought nobody, but you're supposed to be somebody and you lose - I'm like 'you shouldn't be worried about me, you should be worried about yourself.' Because realistically in boxing he's the prospect and he's supposed to win that fight. He's supposed to fight for a world title. So don't worry about Danny Garcia, worry about yourself. I'm not at 140 no more anyway, I'm at 147," Garcia said.
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SecondsOut Services to Boxing – Al Haymon
By Jason Pribila: The spirit of the holiday season has spread to the Secondsout.com Team as we continue to reveal our 2015 award winners. I was selected to write about the winner of our “Services to Boxing” category: Al Haymon (Premier Boxing Champions).
While the verdict remains out as to PBC’s overall effect on the sport, anyone responsible for bringing the sport of boxing back to network television on a consistent basis deserves our year end kudos. On March 7, 2015 boxing was televised on NBC, and for the first time in over thirty years a generation of fight fans had access to boxing’s elite on “free” TV. Keith Thurman held his ground against the rallying Robert Guerrero in the main event of the Inaugural show, and finally boxing fans had what they had been clamoring for.
Premier Boxing Champions was the end result of boxing manager Al Haymon’s plan to take over the sport of boxing. Haymon gained prominence in the sport by becoming the manager of the sport’s cash cow Floyd Mayweather Jr. He formed a cozy relationship with then Golden Boy partner, Richard Schaefer. That relationship gave all of the fighters that Haymon managed a successful promotional banner to fight under. To De La Hoya’s surprise he was building the profiles of fighters for an empire that belonged only to Haymon.
The wheels were now in motion for Haymon to bring boxing back to network television. He was able to broker deals with all four major networks, as well as cable channels Bounce TV and Spike. Haymon was able to bring this vision to reality because he had enough money to broker deals with television executives. Rather than having the network pay for a rights fee, Haymon pays for a block of TV Time in return for a cut of the advertising revenue. This agreement puts all the risk on Haymon’s shoulders, but it also buys him at least thru 2016 to not only convince current boxing fans that his brand represents boxing’s best, but it also needs to use the reach of the television networks to cultivate new fans. Boxing stars of yesterday became so popular because people watched their careers blossom in their living rooms on Friday Nights and Saturday afternoons.
Of course, boxing being boxing, the PBC Revolution has been greeted controversy and multi-million dollar lawsuits. The controversy remains that Haymon fighters do not appear on HBO, meaning that none of the fighters on HBO are available to do business with Haymon fighters. Lawsuits by Golden Boy and Top Rank have accused the PBC of breaking anti-trust laws, monopolizing broadcast rights, venues, and forbidding his fighters from signing with either promotional company. They also claim that Haymon is acting as both manager and promoter, which would violate the Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act.
While Oscar De La Hoya still had a successful 2015, one could understand why he’s willing to lace up the gloves in the courtroom. Not only was he shocked that he did not have the promotional rights to the Haymon fighters that his company was promoting as Showtime was closing the gap between themselves and HBO, but he is also witnessing the exact mission statement that he wanted for his own company back in 2010.
At that time, De La Hoya was quoted as saying that boxing needed to be run like the UFC. He wanted there to be one promotional banner that would ensure that the best fighters would fight the best on the HBO platform which would create quarterly Pay Per View shows. This would eliminate co-promotions, it would make fights easier to make, and the promoter would be able to control what fighters were paid, thus creating more money for the Promoter.
Haymon took Oscar’s vision and took it a step further by taking his product to network television. That being said, the PBC was not an overnight success. Boxing is not the UFC. Boxing has been around for over 100 years and therefore it appeals more to historians than pioneers. The sport and its fanbase are slow to make changes, and many are set in their ways. They have been conditioned to look to HBO for the boxing elite. Boxing on free tv usually meant that one was watching prospects or has-beens. The lights shined brighter on HBO.
Casual sports fans do not know who Al Haymon is. His company does not have a personality that fans could relate to like the UFC has Dana White. Premier Boxing Champions does not exactly roll off the tongue and PBC sounds more like PBS than it does a company of fighters.
The Haymon fighters also previously gained their popularity on Showtime. While Showtime made great strides, the network reaches far fewer homes than HBO. Another disadvantage is that the US Amateur boxing program has failed to produce a male gold medal since Andre Ward. De La Hoya himself was the last time that the Olympics generated fan interest from the infancy of a fighter’s career.
So while Haymon succeeded in getting fighters back to network television, they need to continue to build the profile of the fighters. This could prove to be difficult as Haymon has yet to create his own star rather than poaching established stars. Therefore, I’m not sure that a reality show would be the answer. Although, when the Contender was on NBC, I had more women ask me about fighters like Peter, Sergio, and Alfonso, than boxers like Keith, Robert, and Danny.
I do believe that Haymon has enough fighters between 140 and 147 to stage a tournament. Imagine if the Super Six aired on CBS rather than Showtime? This would force fighters to remain active. Fighting 2 times a year is not the best way to raise a fighter’s profile. This would also provide fans with a fight schedule. They would know when and where they could find a fight, rather than searching up and down the dial. Fight fans would develop relationships with the fighters as they would know not only when they would fight next, but they would know the opponent. I think the PBC has an opportunity to illustrate how little boxing fans care about whether or not a fighter loses, as long as he is testing himself by fighting the best. Boardwalk Hall was sold out as soon as Arturo Gatti announced he was going to fight, and it did not matter who was in the other corner.
We are about to enter year two of the PBC. Danny Garcia is scheduled to fight Robert Guerrero on January 23. We could only hope that the PBC continues to think outside of the box. Tweak things that don’t work (ring walks, Hans Zimmer’s score rather than a fighter’s own music). Realize that playing well with others could only help raise your own fighter’s profiles. Realize that “Golden Boy” and “Top Rank” are not going anywhere. Boxing fans are more dedicated to their sport than any other fan base. But they will not follow blindly. As long as they see Sergei Kovalev and “GGG” knocking people out, they are never going to accept your titlists as “champions” unless the olive branch is passed and at the end of the day the best fights are made at the time that the demand is highest. The sport may not be able to survive another money grab like we saw on May 2nd, 2015.
By Jason Pribila: The spirit of the holiday season has spread to the Secondsout.com Team as we continue to reveal our 2015 award winners. I was selected to write about the winner of our “Services to Boxing” category: Al Haymon (Premier Boxing Champions).
While the verdict remains out as to PBC’s overall effect on the sport, anyone responsible for bringing the sport of boxing back to network television on a consistent basis deserves our year end kudos. On March 7, 2015 boxing was televised on NBC, and for the first time in over thirty years a generation of fight fans had access to boxing’s elite on “free” TV. Keith Thurman held his ground against the rallying Robert Guerrero in the main event of the Inaugural show, and finally boxing fans had what they had been clamoring for.
Premier Boxing Champions was the end result of boxing manager Al Haymon’s plan to take over the sport of boxing. Haymon gained prominence in the sport by becoming the manager of the sport’s cash cow Floyd Mayweather Jr. He formed a cozy relationship with then Golden Boy partner, Richard Schaefer. That relationship gave all of the fighters that Haymon managed a successful promotional banner to fight under. To De La Hoya’s surprise he was building the profiles of fighters for an empire that belonged only to Haymon.
The wheels were now in motion for Haymon to bring boxing back to network television. He was able to broker deals with all four major networks, as well as cable channels Bounce TV and Spike. Haymon was able to bring this vision to reality because he had enough money to broker deals with television executives. Rather than having the network pay for a rights fee, Haymon pays for a block of TV Time in return for a cut of the advertising revenue. This agreement puts all the risk on Haymon’s shoulders, but it also buys him at least thru 2016 to not only convince current boxing fans that his brand represents boxing’s best, but it also needs to use the reach of the television networks to cultivate new fans. Boxing stars of yesterday became so popular because people watched their careers blossom in their living rooms on Friday Nights and Saturday afternoons.
Of course, boxing being boxing, the PBC Revolution has been greeted controversy and multi-million dollar lawsuits. The controversy remains that Haymon fighters do not appear on HBO, meaning that none of the fighters on HBO are available to do business with Haymon fighters. Lawsuits by Golden Boy and Top Rank have accused the PBC of breaking anti-trust laws, monopolizing broadcast rights, venues, and forbidding his fighters from signing with either promotional company. They also claim that Haymon is acting as both manager and promoter, which would violate the Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act.
While Oscar De La Hoya still had a successful 2015, one could understand why he’s willing to lace up the gloves in the courtroom. Not only was he shocked that he did not have the promotional rights to the Haymon fighters that his company was promoting as Showtime was closing the gap between themselves and HBO, but he is also witnessing the exact mission statement that he wanted for his own company back in 2010.
At that time, De La Hoya was quoted as saying that boxing needed to be run like the UFC. He wanted there to be one promotional banner that would ensure that the best fighters would fight the best on the HBO platform which would create quarterly Pay Per View shows. This would eliminate co-promotions, it would make fights easier to make, and the promoter would be able to control what fighters were paid, thus creating more money for the Promoter.
Haymon took Oscar’s vision and took it a step further by taking his product to network television. That being said, the PBC was not an overnight success. Boxing is not the UFC. Boxing has been around for over 100 years and therefore it appeals more to historians than pioneers. The sport and its fanbase are slow to make changes, and many are set in their ways. They have been conditioned to look to HBO for the boxing elite. Boxing on free tv usually meant that one was watching prospects or has-beens. The lights shined brighter on HBO.
Casual sports fans do not know who Al Haymon is. His company does not have a personality that fans could relate to like the UFC has Dana White. Premier Boxing Champions does not exactly roll off the tongue and PBC sounds more like PBS than it does a company of fighters.
The Haymon fighters also previously gained their popularity on Showtime. While Showtime made great strides, the network reaches far fewer homes than HBO. Another disadvantage is that the US Amateur boxing program has failed to produce a male gold medal since Andre Ward. De La Hoya himself was the last time that the Olympics generated fan interest from the infancy of a fighter’s career.
So while Haymon succeeded in getting fighters back to network television, they need to continue to build the profile of the fighters. This could prove to be difficult as Haymon has yet to create his own star rather than poaching established stars. Therefore, I’m not sure that a reality show would be the answer. Although, when the Contender was on NBC, I had more women ask me about fighters like Peter, Sergio, and Alfonso, than boxers like Keith, Robert, and Danny.
I do believe that Haymon has enough fighters between 140 and 147 to stage a tournament. Imagine if the Super Six aired on CBS rather than Showtime? This would force fighters to remain active. Fighting 2 times a year is not the best way to raise a fighter’s profile. This would also provide fans with a fight schedule. They would know when and where they could find a fight, rather than searching up and down the dial. Fight fans would develop relationships with the fighters as they would know not only when they would fight next, but they would know the opponent. I think the PBC has an opportunity to illustrate how little boxing fans care about whether or not a fighter loses, as long as he is testing himself by fighting the best. Boardwalk Hall was sold out as soon as Arturo Gatti announced he was going to fight, and it did not matter who was in the other corner.
We are about to enter year two of the PBC. Danny Garcia is scheduled to fight Robert Guerrero on January 23. We could only hope that the PBC continues to think outside of the box. Tweak things that don’t work (ring walks, Hans Zimmer’s score rather than a fighter’s own music). Realize that playing well with others could only help raise your own fighter’s profiles. Realize that “Golden Boy” and “Top Rank” are not going anywhere. Boxing fans are more dedicated to their sport than any other fan base. But they will not follow blindly. As long as they see Sergei Kovalev and “GGG” knocking people out, they are never going to accept your titlists as “champions” unless the olive branch is passed and at the end of the day the best fights are made at the time that the demand is highest. The sport may not be able to survive another money grab like we saw on May 2nd, 2015.
The Man Behind the Scenes: Does Al Haymon Have a Bigger Picture in Mind or is What You See What You Get?
December 30th, 2015 Bad Brad
Do you think Al Haymon is GOOD or BAD for the sport of Boxing?
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AHBy Jesse “New School” Wright
Photo Credit: Ego @BoxingEGO
We get a glimpse of the director through his body of work. In the case of Al Haymon, our only understanding of him is through his creation of the free cable based Premiere Boxing Champions (PBC). The reason for this is because Haymon has never spoken in any public manner that would allow us to form an opinion on him as a person. Yet, somehow with his reclusive tendencies, Haymon has made himself boxing’s most polarizing figure in 2015. With his creation of PBC, Haymon gave himself centralized control over a large stable of fighters, promoters and television networks. This feat is considerably impressive for a sport that is notoriously compartmentalized. Many feared that Haymon’s position of complete power was not being met with checks and balances. Supporters of PBC believed it would provide a platform for the sport to cross over from the diehard regulars into the realm of mainstream success. Fights were televised frequently and accessible beyond premium cable. Then something happened; the product got stale. Already watered down and generic in production value, the fights became disturbingly mismatched. We may never understand Haymon’s master plan, but we can analyze the body of work.
The question on everyone’s mind going in to 2016 is what’s next for Haymon’s PBC? In the beginning, it seemed that the goal was to create a standardized product that appealed to the widest variety of fans. In a move to market the sport beyond loyal core fans, he may have actually ostracized them. Many people who followed boxing before PBC already had subscriptions to HBO and Showtime. This group didn’t receive any additional benefit from regular cable access; conversely, they actually lost out on many dream fights that were taken away when Haymon cut off negotiations with all promotions outside of his control. One can make the argument that if the money is right, as it was in Mayweather Vs Pacquiao, Haymon will work with outside promoters. With this sort of fiscal standard to prompt negotiation, don’t expect it to happen again. What’s even more frustrating to fans is the matchups that Haymon actually does make. Instead of allowing his biggest stars to shine, he places them in mismatches so severe that they’re equal parts baffling and insulting to the common fan.
Intentionally matching a prospect against an overmatched opponent is not uncommon in boxing. With the exception of guys with elite amateur backgrounds such as Vasyl Lomachenko (396-1), most fighters must build a reputation at the professional level. Many fighters don’t even receive televised coverage until they’re at least at 15-0. Padding records by fighting easy fights often is standard practice in the early stages of a career. What is shocking is the fact that Haymon is doing this with established elite level fighters who are in their prime. Adonis Stevenson’s last three opponents under Haymon were all unranked. His level of competition was so poor that Ring Magazine was forced to strip him of the Lineal Light Heavyweight title due to not fighting a top five opponent for over two years. When top 5 ranked middleweight Peter Quillin fought unknown Michael Zerafa, he was a 40-1 favorite on some online betting sites. Unsurprisingly, Zerafa left the ring in a stretcher.
Perhaps the reasoning behind the match making is that Haymon believes new viewers will appreciate the big name stars after seeing them dominant win dominantly. Knock outs sell fights and viewers unfamiliar with the sport won’t recognize the misdistribution of talent; the hardcore fans see right through it though. They have no interest in a match that isn’t competitive. It’s not good for the fighters either. Not only is it tarnishing the reputation of big name stars, but it is downright unsafe to the ones being thrown to the wolves. Haymon is notorious for paying his fighters top dollar. Even with a handsome payday, there is still no price that can be put on a fighter’s well being. Violent beatings also paint an unappealing picture of the sport to new fans. Nobody wants to see a guy get seriously hurt on national television. It is ethically wrong.
In order to be sustainable, PBC needs to acquiring new fans and keep them. That seemed to be Haymon’s vision from the start. If they do stick around long enough, they will eventually become savvy enough to view the sport through the same critical lenses as regular fans. That’s when they’ll realize that with free fights, you get what you pay for. Haymon is not entirely risk averse in his match making though. In the case of Adrien Broner versus Shawn Porter we saw two big name stars on a collision course that temporarily derailed Broner’s rise when he was defeated. Could it be that Al Haymon just doesn’t know boxing? He was a great manager who Floyd Mayweather, JR. attributes most of his financial success to. Managing some of the talent and running the whole circus are two different beasts though. Haymon even has a track record of success as major music promoter where he created a repeatable set up for every concert. This is the same blueprint that is used with PBC. This is boxing, though. If you can’t see it through the fans eyes, you will never make it out.
So the question remains: What’s next for PBC in 2016? For all of his mysterious genius, this isn’t up to Al Haymon to decide. This is a question to be answered by the fans. These are some of the most passionate fans in the world. They are also the most unforgiving. If there is an end game to Haymon’s master plan, it’d be in his best interest to show his cards now. This may very well be a case of a man who is in way over his head. It’s still too soon to tell. All that is known of him is the show given in front of the curtain. The decision to stick around and watch it is up to you.
December 30th, 2015 Bad Brad
Do you think Al Haymon is GOOD or BAD for the sport of Boxing?
Good
Bad
View Results
AHBy Jesse “New School” Wright
Photo Credit: Ego @BoxingEGO
We get a glimpse of the director through his body of work. In the case of Al Haymon, our only understanding of him is through his creation of the free cable based Premiere Boxing Champions (PBC). The reason for this is because Haymon has never spoken in any public manner that would allow us to form an opinion on him as a person. Yet, somehow with his reclusive tendencies, Haymon has made himself boxing’s most polarizing figure in 2015. With his creation of PBC, Haymon gave himself centralized control over a large stable of fighters, promoters and television networks. This feat is considerably impressive for a sport that is notoriously compartmentalized. Many feared that Haymon’s position of complete power was not being met with checks and balances. Supporters of PBC believed it would provide a platform for the sport to cross over from the diehard regulars into the realm of mainstream success. Fights were televised frequently and accessible beyond premium cable. Then something happened; the product got stale. Already watered down and generic in production value, the fights became disturbingly mismatched. We may never understand Haymon’s master plan, but we can analyze the body of work.
The question on everyone’s mind going in to 2016 is what’s next for Haymon’s PBC? In the beginning, it seemed that the goal was to create a standardized product that appealed to the widest variety of fans. In a move to market the sport beyond loyal core fans, he may have actually ostracized them. Many people who followed boxing before PBC already had subscriptions to HBO and Showtime. This group didn’t receive any additional benefit from regular cable access; conversely, they actually lost out on many dream fights that were taken away when Haymon cut off negotiations with all promotions outside of his control. One can make the argument that if the money is right, as it was in Mayweather Vs Pacquiao, Haymon will work with outside promoters. With this sort of fiscal standard to prompt negotiation, don’t expect it to happen again. What’s even more frustrating to fans is the matchups that Haymon actually does make. Instead of allowing his biggest stars to shine, he places them in mismatches so severe that they’re equal parts baffling and insulting to the common fan.
Intentionally matching a prospect against an overmatched opponent is not uncommon in boxing. With the exception of guys with elite amateur backgrounds such as Vasyl Lomachenko (396-1), most fighters must build a reputation at the professional level. Many fighters don’t even receive televised coverage until they’re at least at 15-0. Padding records by fighting easy fights often is standard practice in the early stages of a career. What is shocking is the fact that Haymon is doing this with established elite level fighters who are in their prime. Adonis Stevenson’s last three opponents under Haymon were all unranked. His level of competition was so poor that Ring Magazine was forced to strip him of the Lineal Light Heavyweight title due to not fighting a top five opponent for over two years. When top 5 ranked middleweight Peter Quillin fought unknown Michael Zerafa, he was a 40-1 favorite on some online betting sites. Unsurprisingly, Zerafa left the ring in a stretcher.
Perhaps the reasoning behind the match making is that Haymon believes new viewers will appreciate the big name stars after seeing them dominant win dominantly. Knock outs sell fights and viewers unfamiliar with the sport won’t recognize the misdistribution of talent; the hardcore fans see right through it though. They have no interest in a match that isn’t competitive. It’s not good for the fighters either. Not only is it tarnishing the reputation of big name stars, but it is downright unsafe to the ones being thrown to the wolves. Haymon is notorious for paying his fighters top dollar. Even with a handsome payday, there is still no price that can be put on a fighter’s well being. Violent beatings also paint an unappealing picture of the sport to new fans. Nobody wants to see a guy get seriously hurt on national television. It is ethically wrong.
In order to be sustainable, PBC needs to acquiring new fans and keep them. That seemed to be Haymon’s vision from the start. If they do stick around long enough, they will eventually become savvy enough to view the sport through the same critical lenses as regular fans. That’s when they’ll realize that with free fights, you get what you pay for. Haymon is not entirely risk averse in his match making though. In the case of Adrien Broner versus Shawn Porter we saw two big name stars on a collision course that temporarily derailed Broner’s rise when he was defeated. Could it be that Al Haymon just doesn’t know boxing? He was a great manager who Floyd Mayweather, JR. attributes most of his financial success to. Managing some of the talent and running the whole circus are two different beasts though. Haymon even has a track record of success as major music promoter where he created a repeatable set up for every concert. This is the same blueprint that is used with PBC. This is boxing, though. If you can’t see it through the fans eyes, you will never make it out.
So the question remains: What’s next for PBC in 2016? For all of his mysterious genius, this isn’t up to Al Haymon to decide. This is a question to be answered by the fans. These are some of the most passionate fans in the world. They are also the most unforgiving. If there is an end game to Haymon’s master plan, it’d be in his best interest to show his cards now. This may very well be a case of a man who is in way over his head. It’s still too soon to tell. All that is known of him is the show given in front of the curtain. The decision to stick around and watch it is up to you.
Bob Arum Explains Why Terence Crawford is Facing Lundy
By Steve Kim
On February 27th from the Theater at Madison Square Garden in New York, WBO super lightweight titlist Terence Crawford (27-0, 19KOs) will defend his belt against Hank Lundy (26-5-1, 13KOs) as the main event on HBO. It's a match-up that has come under some scrutiny.
Bob Arum, who promotes Crawford, claims - "(Mauricio) Herrera turned him down, (Ruslan) Provodnikov turned him down, that's why we ended up with Lundy."
Moving forward, will Top Rank be able to entice fellow 140-pounders to get into the ring with the talented native of Omaha?
"Well, when this thing straightens out and people realize that the money is the money, they're going to fight him," said a frustrated Arum. "These people are now so unrealistic about the money, fighting a fighter of Crawford's ability, of (Gennady) Golovkin's, it's ridiculous."
When asked if the caution displayed today by boxers and their managements is worse than ever, Arum answered flatly,"Absolutely."
Why is that?
Arum, taking an obvious shot at the Premier Boxing Champions, opined, "Because of the insane purses that are being paid with Waddell and Reed's money." - See more at: Bob Arum Explains Why Terence Crawford is Facing Lundy - Boxing News
By Steve Kim
On February 27th from the Theater at Madison Square Garden in New York, WBO super lightweight titlist Terence Crawford (27-0, 19KOs) will defend his belt against Hank Lundy (26-5-1, 13KOs) as the main event on HBO. It's a match-up that has come under some scrutiny.
Bob Arum, who promotes Crawford, claims - "(Mauricio) Herrera turned him down, (Ruslan) Provodnikov turned him down, that's why we ended up with Lundy."
Moving forward, will Top Rank be able to entice fellow 140-pounders to get into the ring with the talented native of Omaha?
"Well, when this thing straightens out and people realize that the money is the money, they're going to fight him," said a frustrated Arum. "These people are now so unrealistic about the money, fighting a fighter of Crawford's ability, of (Gennady) Golovkin's, it's ridiculous."
When asked if the caution displayed today by boxers and their managements is worse than ever, Arum answered flatly,"Absolutely."
Why is that?
Arum, taking an obvious shot at the Premier Boxing Champions, opined, "Because of the insane purses that are being paid with Waddell and Reed's money." - See more at: Bob Arum Explains Why Terence Crawford is Facing Lundy - Boxing News
Erickson Lubin to headline first card vs. Jose De Jesus Macias
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Five years at USA Today
Erickson Lubin, a junior middleweight from Orlando, Florida, who is one of the premier blue-chip prospects in boxing, will headline a card for the first time.
The 20-year-old Lubin will take on Jose De Jesus Macias (18-4-2, 9 KOs) in a scheduled 10-round bout on Jan. 31 in the main event of a Premier Boxing Champions card (Bounce TV, 9 p.m. ET) at the Seminole Casino Hotel Immokalee in Immokalee, Florida, PBC announced on Tuesday.
"I am excited and ready to shine in my first main event," Lubin said. "It means a lot to headline in my home state of Florida. The whole crowd will be on my side and they will expect a lot. I am going to have a big 2016. I am training hard, staying focused, and I want to make sure the whole world knows who Erickson Lubin is."
Lubin (13-0, 10 KOs) won all five of his fights in 2015 and was ranked seventh on ESPN.com's top 20 prospects list at the end of the year.
De Jesus Macias, 23, of Mexico, is looking to bounce back from a 10-round split decision loss in his last fight, in October, to Alejandro Barrera.
"I'm very happy to be part of this show and to be featured in the main event," De Jesus Macias said. "Training camp has been excellent and I will have to give 100 percent in the ring against Erickson Lubin. I will have to move a lot and get inside and have a tight defense so I don't get hit by one of Lubin's bombs."
In the eight-round co-feature, welterweight Alex De Jesus (21-1, 13 KOs), 32, a 2004 Puerto Rican Olympian who was out of the ring from 2010 to 2015 because of a prison term, will take Joseph Elegele (14-2, 10 KOs), 31, of Winter Haven, Florida.
Lubin to headline first card vs. De Jesus Macias
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Dan RafaelESPN Senior Writer
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2013 BWAA Nat Fleischer Award winner for excellence in boxing journalism
ESPN.com boxing writer since 2005
Five years at USA Today
Erickson Lubin, a junior middleweight from Orlando, Florida, who is one of the premier blue-chip prospects in boxing, will headline a card for the first time.
The 20-year-old Lubin will take on Jose De Jesus Macias (18-4-2, 9 KOs) in a scheduled 10-round bout on Jan. 31 in the main event of a Premier Boxing Champions card (Bounce TV, 9 p.m. ET) at the Seminole Casino Hotel Immokalee in Immokalee, Florida, PBC announced on Tuesday.
"I am excited and ready to shine in my first main event," Lubin said. "It means a lot to headline in my home state of Florida. The whole crowd will be on my side and they will expect a lot. I am going to have a big 2016. I am training hard, staying focused, and I want to make sure the whole world knows who Erickson Lubin is."
Lubin (13-0, 10 KOs) won all five of his fights in 2015 and was ranked seventh on ESPN.com's top 20 prospects list at the end of the year.
De Jesus Macias, 23, of Mexico, is looking to bounce back from a 10-round split decision loss in his last fight, in October, to Alejandro Barrera.
"I'm very happy to be part of this show and to be featured in the main event," De Jesus Macias said. "Training camp has been excellent and I will have to give 100 percent in the ring against Erickson Lubin. I will have to move a lot and get inside and have a tight defense so I don't get hit by one of Lubin's bombs."
In the eight-round co-feature, welterweight Alex De Jesus (21-1, 13 KOs), 32, a 2004 Puerto Rican Olympian who was out of the ring from 2010 to 2015 because of a prison term, will take Joseph Elegele (14-2, 10 KOs), 31, of Winter Haven, Florida.
Lubin to headline first card vs. De Jesus Macias
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