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Feb 25, 2006
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Anyone think hes bout to break the record tomarrow?? imma be at tha game i was there for it when he hit 700 so im hopin to see him break the record tomarrow..
 
Jan 2, 2004
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I'm glad he did it.. I'm not a Bonds fan, but I think the hate is out of control..

The dude is a definite hall of famer, whether he took Roids or not, which nobody has proved that he has, and he hasn't dropped positive once..

But at least now, the constant Bonds updates will stop...
 
Feb 13, 2006
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ok lets put some facts up...babe ruth didnt have the same compatition thats ALLOWED today *wink wink* he has a claim to fame that he did what he did by eating hot dogs and drinking beer...ya right...now for a question, did they test back then? Oh yea...BONDS didnt break no record..he's 2nd...i actually feel bad for him, ppl makin so much noise over being 2nd place, its like no one expects him to actually break the real record...
 
Apr 16, 2003
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Lmfao at people hating Bonds. Bonds is now 2nd on the all time list for career home runs, you can't pass that off as an every day ordinary human feat.

Why do so many people hate Barry? Jealousy and racism are two of the biggest factors. When Mark Mcgwire broke the single season record, nobody in the world considered questioning his authenticity. Why?, he was the perfect all-american white hero.

Soon after, bonds was hot and on pace to kill the record for single season home runs even while getting walked almost twice every game. Then all of this controversey came out. With the opportunity to test Bonds for illegal substances, it's been 5 years and nobody has been able to do so. Either way Bonds loses, proven guilty they haters will say " I told you so ", not proven guilty the haters will say " oh he had time to clean up". Yeah, five years, opportunity to test and no positive results....

Though even if Bonds had performance enhancement drugs, would that be enough to help him break the record for most walks single season. Would they even enhance is near perfect batting discipline? Why wasn't Giambi breaking records? It's all a scam. Don't beleive the hype.
 
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Amen to that ^. It's funny about all these so called staticians and so on claim that Ruth is the better player. I would take Bonds over Ruth any day. Ruth wasn't shit as a fielder and only pitched for five years. Bonds also has 7 MVP awards, second only has 3 MVP's/
 
Jan 18, 2006
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RUTH WAS A FAT SLOTH, THEY ONLY PITCHED 75 MPH BACK THEN DAMN NEAR AND THE PITCHERS PITCHED DAMN NEAR EVERYDAY, RUTH IS A JOKE IN MY BOOK BUT HEY IF IDIOTS WANT TO IDOLIZE THAT FUCK THATS THERE PROBLEM,

I HOPE BONDS PASSES AARON TO MAKE ALL THE HATERS EVEN MORE MAD, ITS PATHETIC HOW EVERYONE JUMPS THE BANDWAGON AND CALLS HIM AN ASSHOLE AND THATS THERE REASON FOR HATING HIM.
 

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Likwid said:
Amen to that ^. It's funny about all these so called staticians and so on claim that Ruth is the better player. I would take Bonds over Ruth any day. Ruth wasn't shit as a fielder and only pitched for five years. Bonds also has 7 MVP awards, second only has 3 MVP's/
I'd take Ruth any day over Bonds. Lets not forget that Ruth had "the greatest season by any batter in major league history" in 1921.

As historic as Ruth's 1920 season was, his 1921 season was even better. In fact, it is statistically the greatest season by any batter in major league history. In 152 games, Ruth batted .378, had 204 hits, 44 doubles, 16 triples, 59 home runs (8th all-time), scored 177 runs (2nd all-time), had 171 RBIs (7th all-time), 144 bases on balls, with 119 extra base hits (1st all-time), an .846 slugging average (3rd all-time), and amassed 457 total bases (1st all-time). Using advanced statistical methods to measure a player's value, some of the best present-day baseball statistical researchers have shown that Ruth's season is unmatched. The Stats Major League Baseball Handbook, a massive, encyclopedic baseball work compiled by noted baseball researchers Bill James, Neil Munro, Don Zminda, and John Dewan, developed a runs created formula to value how many runs a player produces. Using their formula, the 208 runs created by Ruth in 1921 is the highest total for any player in any season.
Plus you just got to love that an alcoholic could do all that.
 
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Cool article I ran across today...


Who Cares About Bonds? You Do...
By Mark Chalifoux


Baseball, more than any other sport, relies on statistical records to add intrigue to the game. Except, of course, when it comes to home runs, which oddly enough, is one of the most important statistics in baseball. Still, if you are to believe a bunch of grumpy old men, no one cares about Barry Bonds breaking Babe Ruth's home run record.

It's always refreshing to see so many members of the media handle Bonds' breaking of the record with all the maturity of a 2nd grade boy who recently contracted cooties.

As a casual baseball fan, I was fascinated at the level of venom people had for Barry Bonds at the start of the baseball season. Bonds could have given a sandwich to a starving homeless man, and blowhards on "Around the Horn" would've spent 10 minutes blasting him for not throwing in large fries and a coke. About the only thing Bonds could've done to make people happy was to fulfill the ridiculously selfish notion of many pundits and retire.



Throughout the season, people enjoyed ripping Bonds and not a day went by without * talk or people taking their shots at Bonds. Anyone in the newspaper business older than 40 came out with the exact same thoughtless "Bonds isn't good for the game, he's a goober" column. Shortly after that, they would follow with the "Ha, Bonds is struggling, justice would be served if this jerk is stuck forever on 713" column. Both are stupid notions, but hey, they may be old and bitter, but they are still entitled to their opinions.

Then Barry Bonds hit 714 and 715. Now, everyone has the same opinion: it doesn't matter, he'll never be good enough to carry Ruth's hot dog. Not only did they tell you it didn't matter, they went one further, by telling you that "no one cares." After all the hate, all the build up, all the episodes of "Bonds on Bonds" and front page stories every time Bonds tied his shoe quicker than the day before (Bonds back on Roids, page 2!), it turns out that no one cared in the first place. It's pretty clear what this really is. Prattle.

(I spent five minutes looking at a thesaurus for a good synonym for bull*** and prattle was the best I came up with. I could've gone with garbage, or just bull, but it didn't feel forceful enough. Let's not kid ourselves, these people are spouting off pure crap, and the only good word to describe it is bull****. I don't have an overly foul mouth or make it a habit to spew constant expletives, but the reason we have a word like bull**** is just for situations like this. Prattle just isn't the same, but it will have to work).

It's humorous just how much this hurts baseball fans older than 40. They are furious and still hate Bonds more than ever. There's nothing wrong with it, but let's be honest, just about everyone has an opinion on Bonds. After seeing these articles and comments, I'm firmly convinced that the Boy Bander of College Basketball (until he gets drafted) JJ Redick has smarter fans.

Any typical conversation with them goes like this

Fan: hey, how about that Joakin Noah? He's the best player in college hoops right now.

JJ Fan: omfg how can u say dat? JJ is sooo much better. You are just ugly and that's why you like Joakin Noh. JJ Redick is the best college basketball player eva.

Fan: Really, well, I'm always open to a good argument. How is JJ a better college player than someone like Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, or even better than other Dukies like Grant Hill?

JJ Fan: JJ is soooo hoottt. OMG does he have a gf, if he doesn't pleeeeez tell him I wud be his gf anytime. He is hotter than da sun, it is reedickuless. Easily best player in sports history. No comparison. Gawd I would do anything to be mrs jj...(sigh)

In conclusion, 14-year-old girls aren't the best when it comes to sports conversations. Half of them probably can't name JJs team and the other half probably can't name what sport he plays. However, they aren't paid to talk and write about sports, columnists and talk show hosts are. It's even worse when they manipulate their sources to support their baseless claims.

A USA Today story recently quoted experts such as Babe Ruth's daughter Julia Ruth Stevens, who chimed in with a "As far as I'm concerned, Daddy will always be No. 1. Not to take anything away from him or Hank, but Daddy did it all on his own." That is almost as priceless as the AP story that ran about Kobe's dad's take that Kobe deserved the MVP. When all else fails, just resort to the "my Daddy can beat up your daddy argument." She is 88 and the daughter of Babe Ruth, but if that's not enough to write off her comments, how about the fact that she lumps Hank Aaron in with Bonds with the backhanded "my dad did it all on his own" comment? If we buy that, it's time to send the *crew after Aaron's record.

Of course, my favorite argument from all these pieces also came from USA Today courtesy of Hal Bodley. His argument was basically that Bonds could hit 780 homeruns, but wouldn't be the best home run hitter of all time because it's an arbitrary honor given out on the basis of what Hal Bodley thinks. But, he had a credible source back up his thesis, MLB's Official Historian, Jerome Holtzman.

"Babe Ruth was the greatest home-run hitter period," Holtzman says over the phone from his home near Chicago. "He had a certain majesty about himself, his swing, the way he led his life. Heck, he was bigger than life. He's still alive."

Yep, that's the best they've got. Babe Ruth is still freaking alive. The whole cancer thing was an elaborate ruse. The packed funeral and thousands of mourners were all "punk'd", 1940s style. Actually, right now, Babe Ruth is playing cards with Elvis and Tupac on an island in the Caribbean and having a good laugh at our expense.

"Aaron was a helluva player and a tremendous hitter, but not the best home-run hitter," Holtzman continued. "I think what proves this point is the fact Babe Ruth is still alive."

I can't make stuff up this good. People, not just people, but people who know baseball, have to resort to using facts like "Babe Ruth is still alive" to defend their arguments. Babe Ruth is still alive, therefore, he is the greatest home run hitter of all time. OK, thanks for coming prattlers, but let's come back to Earth and see this for what it is.

You hate him? Fine. You love him? Fine. But don't insult my intelligence by suggesting that no one cares and that Babe Ruth is still alive. Simply pathetic. Actually, there's a better word to describe it.

Prattle.
Go Barry ! Fuck the haters !