A's Trades

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Jul 3, 2002
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Goodbye Bradford, Byrnes, and some prospect... Hello Jay Payton and two rockies pitchers. I dunno what to think of this. Byrnes was very exciting but extremely inconsistent and bradford hasnt played all year but are those pitchers that good? and is payton still going to be on the bench with kotsay, mcdonald, and swisher in the outfield... time will tell. what do you guys think?
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Damn I was hoping I wouldn't see Byrnes get traded but I guess they had to do what they had to do.

It doesn't matter though, anything Billy Beane does (trades, drafting), I know it will all work out in the end in Oakland's favor.

Like AC said, you MUST trust MONEY BALL. :cheeky:
 
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yeah.. watch, all of us are like damn whats going on, while beane is laughing it up cuz he knows these trades are gonna be hella good... hopefully im right...
 
Apr 25, 2002
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$PIDER_LOKZ said:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THO$E MOTHAFUCKAZ ALWAYZ DO THIZ THEY $HOULD OF NEVA TRADED DYE FUCK
umm, Dye didn't get traded. Here's what happened with Jermaine Dye. The last two years he was not that good and he was injured ALL THE TIME. For the A's to keep him, they would have had to sign an extension that was already in place. That extension would have paid him over $10 million if I remember correctly. There is no way in hell Jermaine Dye is worth that much. They let him walk... He signed with Chicago for something like $4 million. He needs to re-establish himself and stay healthy to warrant that kind of money. He's off to a good start so far but I won't be convinced until he stays healthy for an entire season.
 
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Here's how I see the trades.

1) Payton is better all-around than Eric Byrnes. Payton will not make the diving catch in the bullpen, but he also won't dive for a ball he has no chance of getting and turning a 1-run single into a 3-run double. He's also more consistent against right-handed pitching, which is a hole in Eric Byrnes' game (and Bobby Kielty's as of late.) Byrnes hits better against lefties, but what good does that do? The A's have only faced like 5-10 lefties all year. Also, Byrnes had his conflicts with Macha and Beane and was getting paid $2+ million to ride the bench so it was time for him to go.

2) Jay Witasick is a better pitcher than Chad Bradford. Bradford is coming off a major injury and major surgery and is not doing that good in AAA. Witasick has an ERA of about 2.50. He gets more than a strikeout an inning. He only gives up about 1 walk for every 4 strikeouts. Oh yeah, HE'S PITCHING IN COLORADO. My feeling is that Chad Bradford is damaged goods and will spend time on the DL every year from now on... That delivery and a history of back problems is not a good combination.

3) Omar Quintanilla was on the decline in AAA. He was next in line for 2B behind the logjam that's already there in Ginter/Scuatro/Ellis. Good news is, we have Chad Pennington now, the #1 draft pick from this year's draft. He's better than Quintanilla and has more upside. He'll move over to 2B now that Crosby is locked up for a long time. As far as Joe Kennedy goes, last year he had the best ERA a Rockies starter has ever had in that park. Plus he's a lefty. I have a feeling there's something that Beane knows about him that we don't. Anyway, he's going to be in the bullpen and will probably be a lefty specialist like Ricardo Rincon. If he doesn't work out, no big loss, they've upgraded elsewhere at the cost of a minor league player that probably never would have made it to the show.

Overall, it looks like a good move... And I'm 99.9% sure that Beane is not done yet.

Get ready for that hot 2nd half the A's always have.........
 
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Dude... Bonds is not going anywhere, especially not the A's! Chances are he won't even play again this year, and if he does, nobody would take him except maybe the Yankees or someone else who's stupid enough to overpay for a risk like Bonds (risk that he will get hurt and risk that he can't play without roids.)

The Yankees wanted Payton, but the Sox would never trade to help a division rival... I think we might see a bigger trade sending Payton and possibly Ginter or Ellis to NY in a 3-team deal to get a real cleanup hitter... In which case Watson would probably get called up to be the 4th outfielder.
 
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this trade should work out well for the A's..Yeah sure Byrnes had some good days and also had them bad ones... Payton should fit in real well here...LETS GO OAKLAND