Antonio Margarito vs. Sugar Shane Mosley

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Antonio Margarito vs. Shane Mosley. January 24th on HBO.

Antonio Margarito
30 years old
5′ 11″
73“ reach
37 (KO 27) + lost 5 (KO 0)
Last fight: Win TKO 11 over Cotto



Shane Mosley
37 years old
5′ 9″
74“ reach
45 (KO 38) + lost 5 (KO 0)
Last fight: Win TKO 12 over Mayorga
 
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Margarito wins this...and I hate to say it, but I'm going to go with KO. I've seen Shane hurt a few times, but haven't seen anyone really be able to follow up on it. I think Margarito's constant pressure will be too much, and eventually Shane'll fold.

I feel funny typing that.



Edit: whoa @ Shane having the reach advantage. LOL
 
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Margarito wins this...and I hate to say it, but I'm going to go with KO. I've seen Shane hurt a few times, but haven't seen anyone really be able to follow up on it. I think Margarito's constant pressure will be too much, and eventually Shane'll fold.

I feel funny typing that.



Edit: whoa @ Shane having the reach advantage. LOL
If shane was a couple years younger he'd be able to out-box margarito, but you might be right on your prediction. Shane really didn't look that good to me against Mayorga up till the very end and looked old, against Cotto he was hurt several times. I think if he can stay on the outside and box, he'll avoid being KO'd but it seems shane has a problem with trading with big punchers when he doesn't need to.
 
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If shane was a couple years younger he'd be able to out-box margarito, but you might be right on your prediction. Shane really didn't look that good to me against Mayorga up till the very end and looked old, against Cotto he was hurt several times. I think if he can stay on the outside and box, he'll avoid being KO'd but it seems shane has a problem with trading with big punchers when he doesn't need to.
Yes, Yes, and Yes.


Shane didn't look like he knew what to do vs. Mayorga, which was a huge surprise to me...and Margarito won't give him time to think. Hopefully they zoom in on Jin more during this fight, though. :lick:
 

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Margarito by decision. Is Margarito ducking Clottey? What's beating Shane going to do for his career? Shane is almost done.
 
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Margarito wants a big money fight. He said that right after he beat cotto that he wants a big pay day (originally wanted Oscar but Shane is the next biggest payday).

He's not ducking Clottey; I think for one Clottey and Paul Williams are trying to get a fight done eventually (and if that doesn't happen, Cotto said he's willing to fight Clottey in Januaray) and two, Margs wants another big payday. This fight is set for January so Clottey/Margarito can still happen next year.
 

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Probably about as much as beating Clottey would, really. Clottey's a very good fighter, but not any better than Shane, and Shane has name recognition and drawing power.
I think at this point in their career's Clottey is a better fighter but when Shane was in his prime, Shane was better. I agree with your point about name recognition and drawing power. Having beat Shane Moseley is better at this point than beating Clottey. Good point! I was thinking Marg is ducking Clottey.
 
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I think at this point in their career's Clottey is a better fighter but when Shane was in his prime, Shane was better. I agree with your point about name recognition and drawing power. Having beat Shane Moseley is better at this point than beating Clottey. Good point! I was thinking Marg is ducking Clottey.
I don't think it's so much as ducking Clottey as Margarito just wants a big payday...he feels that after his long career, it's time to make some money while he can. There's very few fighters who can draw these huge paydays for extended periods of time, and Margarito wants to cash in now. I don't think he's ducking anyone (fuck you, 2-0-Sixx), and he'll fight certain people (Williams) in the near future. I see that fight, if everything goes according to plan (Margarito and Williams both winning key fights), happening by the end of '09, or maaaybe early 2010.
 
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^^^LOL, why you gotta throw in the fuck you 2-0-Sixx in the middle of that shit like I'm not going to see it?! How can you slap!!
LOL!

That's why I did it...I know you think Margarito's ducking Williams, and I don't believe so. They will fight, probably within the next year or so, and there's nothing dramatic that Margarito can do to help him in a fight vs. Williams that he couldn't do now, so I don't feel he's ''ducking'' him as much as putting him off.

I knew you'd see that. LOL
 
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Two guys with iron chins. I don't see either one getting the KO.

I do still think Shane has enough in the tank to get the decision though, if he stays busy enough. Just look at what he did to Cotto in the final few rounds of their fight.

I think at Shane's age, you build a tendancy to fight at your opponent's level, which is why I am not looking too closely into his fight with Mayorga, who I felt that he took very lightly anyways.

If Shane can find a way to stay in the center of the ring, and use his feet...he has a good chance. As long as he doesn't let Tony get his feet set and sit on his punches, I feel he can still pull this one out.

Good fight tho! I'd still like to see a rematch with Cotto for either one of these guys.
 
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That's why I did it...I know you think Margarito's ducking Williams, and I don't believe so. They will fight, probably within the next year or so, and there's nothing dramatic that Margarito can do to help him in a fight vs. Williams that he couldn't do now, so I don't feel he's ''ducking'' him as much as putting him off.
See this?


That's called Fear my friend. FEAR!!!

What are you lookin at Tony?? His eyes are up there!

 
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He's looking at the jaw he's going to crack in the rematch.

Tony had an off night, and Williams took advantage of that. I give him all the credit in the world, but the rematch with be completely different.

Off to work...later!
 
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Hahaha...yeah, I don't think Tony wants it with P-Will again. Horrible matchup for him style-wise.

Plus, like I've said before...Tony hasn't really been able to impose his will on bigger guys than him, like he did to the much smaller Cotto. So I think against those who match up to him physically, he loses a lot of his edge.
 
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Tony hasn't really been able to impose his will on bigger guys than him, like he did to the much smaller Cotto. So I think against those who match up to him physically, he loses a lot of his edge.
I agree 100%. He had a tough time with Clottey too, another big welterweight with a solid chin. In addition he lost to Daniel Santos at 154, and Santos offered Margarito a rematch right after the cotto fight. Margs declined.
 

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Give it to Shane in a hard fought war. Margarito has to be one of the most hittable fighters in the game. They both have good chins but I think Shane has the speed and the power to not only outwork Margarito but but also damage him with an onslaught of body work that Cotto should have did but couldn't. I say he knocks Margarito out if he slows him down, and I say he wins by decision if it goes the distance. Yall gotta understand the shorter fighter has the advantage if they fight on the inside. Not only that he has longer reach than Margarito even though he is shorter so that cancels out the height advantage. The only way he will beat Shane is if he lays on the ropes and gets caught with a bomb and tell me when you last seen Shane fightin on the ropes. He's a beast. And lastly he boxing skills are way superior and nobody can dispute that.

Edge: Mosely (If it happens)

P.S. And he is definitely running from Clottey... Clottey was the first fighter to really expose Margarito as nothing more than a lucky journeymen. Yeah Yeah he beat Cotto, but who has Cotto beat (and don't say Sugar Shane, that was politics)
 

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I think this is going to look like Vernon Forrest vs Shane Mosely all over again. Forrest and Margarito have similar fighting styles and we seen what Forrest did to Shane and Shane was in his prime. If Shane couldn't handle Forrest in his prime how is he going to handle Margarito at the age he's at now?

I think Shane will retire after this fight. Margarito is too much for him at this point in his career. Bad fight for Shane to take but since it may be his last he'll be alright. I'll pull for him because he's classy but I don't think he'll win.