I THINK THIS IS A GOOD WEBSITE BUT IT ALSO LET'S ME KNOW THERE ARE WAY 2 MANY PEOPLE IN THIS BUSINESS..IT'S OUTRAGEOUS.EVERYBODY FROM EVERYWHERE HAS AN ALBUM OR IS PRODUCING OR IS TRYING 2 START A RAP MAGAZINE..& I KNOW MOST OF THESE PEOPLE PROBABLY HAVE PARENTS WHO CAN'T STAND RAP.THIS SHIT IS OUT OF HAND..IT MAKES ME WONDER IF ANYBODY WILL EVER BLOW UP OTHER THAN MAINSTREAMS..I KNOW THAT WAS THE MAIN PROBLEM IN CALI;2 MANY INDEPENDENT LABELS=2 MUCH COMPETITION=NO CONSISTENT RECORD SALES...OH WELL,LET THE GAMES CONTINUE
2 MANY PEOPLE IN THE RAP BIZ
- Thread starter KILLA TAY
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MY OPINION...
SHIT AINT GOT NUTHIN TO DO WIT OL TIMERS... MOST OF THESE NEW CATS IS GARBAGE POINT BLANK IMO (EXCEPT FOR A FEW HOT ONES)... CATS AINT PAID HALF THE DUES AS THE OL TIMERS YOU WISH WOULD HANG IT UP. BET THIS, TAKE 40 AND THE OTHER TIMERS YOU TALKIN ABOUT OUT THE GAME AND THE GAME IS DEAD... THESE OL TIMERS IS STILL MORE VALID THAN MOST OF THESE NEW CATS COMBINED BECAUSE THE NEW CATS CAN'T PULL THE WEIGHT. MAYBE THE RISK IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN IT WAS, OR MAYBE THE FEW WIT REAL SKILL SEE THE UPHILL BATTLE AND REMAIN TO BE NAMELESS IN THE RAP GAME.. PROBLEM IS CATS LIKE 40 HELD THE GATES OPEN LONG ENOUGH FOR A NEW ERA TO EMERGE AND NONE OF THESE NEW CATS WAS ABLE TO STEP TO THE PLATE AND DISTINGUISH THEM SELF FROM THE PACK. NUTHIN PERSONAL CANE, BUT YOUR ERA IS THE REASON THE BAY IS STAGNANT. TRUST ME, I'VE HEARD ALOT OF THE SHIT THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE NEXT SHIT, AND IT'S FAR FROM THE NEXT SHIT. TAKE THAT WIT A GRAIN OF SALT PLAYBOY. YOUR ERA HAS NO TRUE DIRECTION. YALL CATS LACK THE MAIN INGREDIENT THAT MY ERA HAD. I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT THAT IS, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T KNOW ALREADY, IT'S UP TO YOU TO FIND OUT. CATS FROM MY ERA DIDN'T COMPLAIN AS MUCH AS THIS ERA. WE WENT AND MADE A NAME FOR OUR SELVES BLOCK TO BLOCK. YALL CATS WANT IT EASY. YOU THINK BECAUSE YOU OWN A TRITON AND A BLUE BERRY MIC YOU A SKILLED RAPPER AND PRODUCER. MAN DON'T YOU KNOW CATS LIKE SEAN T, MIKE MOSELEY, MY SELF, WE HAD TO LEARN FROM THE BOTTOM UP. WE GOT ALOT OF OUR TRICKS FROM WORKING WITH SKILLED PRODUCERS BEFORE US AND SKILLED ENGINEERS IN REAL STUDIOS THAT COST OVER 6 FIGURES. FUCK A TRITION WORK STATION. TO ME THAT SHIT SHOULD BE BANNED FOR FOOLIN A BUNCH OF DON'T KNOWS INTO BELIEVIN THEY NOW HAVE THE MAGIC TOUCH.. I COULD GO ON, BUT HOPEFULLY THIS WILL SPARK ENOUGH CONVO FOR THE MINUTE... I COULD GO ON ABOUT RADIO AND MEDIA SUPPORT BUT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN GONE OVER PLENTY OF TIMES. YOU KNOW HOW THEY SAY IN SPORTS THE DRAFT WILL BE WEAK THIS YEAR, WELL.......
SHIT AINT GOT NUTHIN TO DO WIT OL TIMERS... MOST OF THESE NEW CATS IS GARBAGE POINT BLANK IMO (EXCEPT FOR A FEW HOT ONES)... CATS AINT PAID HALF THE DUES AS THE OL TIMERS YOU WISH WOULD HANG IT UP. BET THIS, TAKE 40 AND THE OTHER TIMERS YOU TALKIN ABOUT OUT THE GAME AND THE GAME IS DEAD... THESE OL TIMERS IS STILL MORE VALID THAN MOST OF THESE NEW CATS COMBINED BECAUSE THE NEW CATS CAN'T PULL THE WEIGHT. MAYBE THE RISK IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN IT WAS, OR MAYBE THE FEW WIT REAL SKILL SEE THE UPHILL BATTLE AND REMAIN TO BE NAMELESS IN THE RAP GAME.. PROBLEM IS CATS LIKE 40 HELD THE GATES OPEN LONG ENOUGH FOR A NEW ERA TO EMERGE AND NONE OF THESE NEW CATS WAS ABLE TO STEP TO THE PLATE AND DISTINGUISH THEM SELF FROM THE PACK. NUTHIN PERSONAL CANE, BUT YOUR ERA IS THE REASON THE BAY IS STAGNANT. TRUST ME, I'VE HEARD ALOT OF THE SHIT THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE NEXT SHIT, AND IT'S FAR FROM THE NEXT SHIT. TAKE THAT WIT A GRAIN OF SALT PLAYBOY. YOUR ERA HAS NO TRUE DIRECTION. YALL CATS LACK THE MAIN INGREDIENT THAT MY ERA HAD. I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT THAT IS, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T KNOW ALREADY, IT'S UP TO YOU TO FIND OUT. CATS FROM MY ERA DIDN'T COMPLAIN AS MUCH AS THIS ERA. WE WENT AND MADE A NAME FOR OUR SELVES BLOCK TO BLOCK. YALL CATS WANT IT EASY. YOU THINK BECAUSE YOU OWN A TRITON AND A BLUE BERRY MIC YOU A SKILLED RAPPER AND PRODUCER. MAN DON'T YOU KNOW CATS LIKE SEAN T, MIKE MOSELEY, MY SELF, WE HAD TO LEARN FROM THE BOTTOM UP. WE GOT ALOT OF OUR TRICKS FROM WORKING WITH SKILLED PRODUCERS BEFORE US AND SKILLED ENGINEERS IN REAL STUDIOS THAT COST OVER 6 FIGURES. FUCK A TRITION WORK STATION. TO ME THAT SHIT SHOULD BE BANNED FOR FOOLIN A BUNCH OF DON'T KNOWS INTO BELIEVIN THEY NOW HAVE THE MAGIC TOUCH.. I COULD GO ON, BUT HOPEFULLY THIS WILL SPARK ENOUGH CONVO FOR THE MINUTE... I COULD GO ON ABOUT RADIO AND MEDIA SUPPORT BUT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN GONE OVER PLENTY OF TIMES. YOU KNOW HOW THEY SAY IN SPORTS THE DRAFT WILL BE WEAK THIS YEAR, WELL.......
Ok now you gotta call me out, were you one of the washed up old timer's i was referring too? No..did you feel you were I GUESS SO. Just like alot of young cats is garbage alot of old cats is garbage, the older cats have not been able to change with the game, complaining is a part of life but I don't JUST complain I make shit happen, right now we doin somethin different and innovative and positive by linking with people trying to create an alliance. Cats out here aint fuckin with cats on the east when it comes to PRODUCTION point blank period...I respect every person who did somethin valid in this game but wtf u get a free pass for eternity? I mean god damn you can only live off your name so long before I actually expect you to come with somethin. Dont classify me into a generation, shit you might as well go by race if you doin that. There was several lame cats in your era as there is in mine, the problem is cats out here who are vets are pissy because shit didnt go how they expected well boo hoo life aint no fuckin cake walk, and if i dont make it shit i can live with it as long as i know i did my best. Dont get the cat u knew for 20 years on your shit get the hot cats who spittin flames. If you dont like my music more power to you but if you would have looked i took that quote from someone 6 posts up cuz i agreed. GROWTH....
I REPOSTED AFTER I REREAD IT SO I APOLOGIZE FOR USIN YOU IN THE POST... YOU KINDA OF SENSITIVE THOUGH. YOU NOT DOIN NUTHIN CATS HAVEN'T DID BEFORE YOU. ME I'M AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE... I WENT STRAIGHT TO THE LEAGUE FROM HIGH SCHOOL SO TO SPEAK... I NEVER SOLD A INDY RECORD(OUTSIDE OF BLACK JACK( WHICH WAS ONE OF THE FIRST INDY BAY RECORDS TO GET A GOOD RATING IN THE SOURCE IN 1993). I WAS A DAMN NEAR A TEEN WHEN I GOT SIGNED TO TOMMY BOY. DIDN'T NEED NO FEATURES TO DO IT. WHEN YOU PULL THAT OFF THEN COME TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT YOU DOIN THAT'S INNOVATIVE THAT AINT BEIN DONE IN ALL THE 51 STATES BY COUNTLESS AMOUNTS OF RAPPERS OLD AND NEW. THE CATS FROM MY ERA THAT WAS GARBAGE STILL SOLD RECORDS CAUSE THEY WAS HUSTLERS, NOT COMPUTER CATS THAT HATE ON ANYTHING THAT THEY FEEL IS WEAK. SHIT I'M STILL IN MY TWENTIES SO IF THAT'S OLD, THEN ... AGE AINT THE PROBLEM. IF YOU GOT IT, YOU GOT IT. RAP MAYBE BOUGHT BY TEENS, BUT IT'S GROWN MEN GETTIN THE MONEY. ALWAYS HAS AND WILL BE. AND ON PRODUCTION, EVEN IF YOU FEEL WE AINT ON THEY LEVEL, WE AINT COMPLAININ ABOUT IT. I STILL PRODUCE BETTER THAN MOST CATS YOU CAN PUT UP AGAINST ME, BETON THAT...NO DISRESPECT TO YOU CANE, BUT TO ME YOU ALWAYS FEEL LIKE YOU DESERVE A HAND OUT BECAUSE YOU FEEL YOU GOT SKILLS. ALWAYS TRYNA CONVINCE PEOPLE CATS SHOULD RAP FOR FREE IF THEY RECOGNIZE SKILL. PLEASE. THAT REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY SHIT DON'T WORK WHEN CATS GOTTA FEED KIDS. IF A CAT RESPECT YOU ENOUGH TO DO IT THAT'S FINE, BUT THIS IS A BIZ, AND THE BARTERING SYSTEM ONLY WORKS IF A CAT FEELS YOU GOT SOMETHIN WORTHWHILE TO OFFER HIM. WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT... ACTUALLY I RESPECT YOUR HUSTLE CAUSE I SEE YOU AT THE SHOWS OR CALLIN THE RADIO STATIONS EARNING RESPECT ON THAT LEVEL, BUT YOU BE KILLIN ME WIT THAT RAP FOR FREE SHIT...
I dont know ask Sean-T , or Cellski I guess man.... or the others that got down with me. YOU SPEAK ON WHAT YOU DID? What did money rhymes do? If aint hot it aint hot you feel me? Old or new or whatever... fuck the net dog u act like I dont actually breath the same air as you.... just cuz im on the net and doin shit 4 free cuz the game has changed...have you even heard my real album? Probablly not... you get money of what you did and what they remember not what you offer now...the game has changed but you still think its 93 evolve the lyrics expand the beats all of that shit, i aint tryna diss u i do have respect for you but bottom line when you tryna tell me i aint bringin shit to the table or that these FREE FUCKIN MIXTAPES featuring some of your comrades aint shit i take offense
TRUST ME I HAVE SPOKE TO SEAN, AND I HEARD YOUR ALBUM TOO. I THOUGHT THE MIX TAPE WAS COOL(BETTER THAN YOUR ALBUM TOO, NO OFFENSE), DON'T TAKE MY COMMENTS PERSONAL HOMIE. THIS IS CONVERSATION RIGHT.... EVERYTHING I WRITE CAN'T BE ABOUT YOU CAN IT??? I HEARD YOU RAP BEFORE. MONEY RHYMES WAS RECORDED FROM 97 TO 99 AND I STILL SOLD ALL BUT 300 COPIES THAT I HAVE IN MY ROOM, AND I ONLY USED RAPSUTINS TO DO THAT AND OUT THE TRUNK FOR THE REST( NO PROMO, NO DISTY, AND ALL PROFIT)... SO THAT MEANS I COMPETED WITH MY OLD SHIT AND STILL WON. ASK HALF THE CATS ON THIS BOARD WHO BOUGHT IT ABOUT ME. YOU GOTTA AGREE WITH ME THAT YOUR ERA SUCKS... COME ON. I CAN'T BE GOIN OFF MY REP, CAUSE I NEVER DROPPED ALBUMS AFTER 96 UNTIL NOW. I'M LOOKIN AT MY SELF AS A FRESH NEW CAT WIT STRIPES... ME AND YOU AINT GOT NO PROB DO WE...
Mac.....U speak on hustlin block 2 block.....Well, wat do U think we're doin? We out here every single day, U act like we make internet albums....lol
I agree wit Killa Tay, tha game is way too crowded, but I also believe in Survival Of The Fittest.....
But really tho, tha bay needs growth.....All these mixtapes, websites etc. are experiments.....
Tha old era has pretty much died & all they left us is a respected name of where we from.....
I agree wit Killa Tay, tha game is way too crowded, but I also believe in Survival Of The Fittest.....
But really tho, tha bay needs growth.....All these mixtapes, websites etc. are experiments.....
Tha old era has pretty much died & all they left us is a respected name of where we from.....
No we don't have a problem I hope we can collaborate if we see eye to eye man to man and discuss this, however I try not to judge people before I hear stuff, which I thought you may be doing. But if you heard stuff and didn't like it that's your right to say what you feel. However I think you should peep the new mixtape volume2, personally i felt Sean-T was possibly the coolest cat I met in this business outside of immediate cats I mess with and thats saying alot for him and what he has done, but I wish you wouldn't classify me into my generation, fuck my generation I ride with very few and I know in my heart and from the feedback I get i'm part of the new wave not part of the garbage... I understand kids to feed rent to pay etc. I don't make my living off of rap although I feel I possess as much skill as some who do. I just do what I do, i'm all about the music...just real genuine... we only both got pissed because we luv the music... holla at me i hit you last week b4 all this on raptalk
its not easy to HUSTLE like your era did man when 15 cats stand outside of rasputins pushin garbage i dont force my shit to anyone anymore if they want it they'll get at me
its not easy to HUSTLE like your era did man when 15 cats stand outside of rasputins pushin garbage i dont force my shit to anyone anymore if they want it they'll get at me
ROD... WE FROM THE SAME BLOCKS SO YOU KNOW HOW DEEP MY NAME IS IN THE STREETS... I DON'T KNOCK YA HUSTLE.. YALL CATS GOT THE RIGHT IDEA... BUT WHAT YALL FELL TO SEE IS YOU LOOKIN AT IT LIKE RAPPERS FROM MY ERA ARE A FACTOR INTO WHY RECORDS DON'T SELL IN THE BAY. YOU OFF BASE CAUS 90% OF THE RAPPERS FROM MY ERA DON'T EVEN RAP NO MORE, AND THE ONES THAT DO STILL GOT MORE POWER AND RESPECT BECAUSE THEY ABOUT THE HUSTLE INSTEAD OF CRYIN ABOUT THE LOSSES. PUT YA SHIT ON THE STREETS AND LET THEM DECIDE IF YOU GOT IT. IF THEY DECLINE TO BUMP YA SHIT, THEN RETHINK YA PLANS..
CANE I NEVER WAS PISSED, IT WAS ALL IN CONVO... YOU DONE MET ME A FEW TIMES SO YOU KNOW HOW I GET DOWN. I ALWAYS SHOWED YOU LOVE WHEN WE CROSSED PATHS. STOP FEELIN LIKE SOMEONE POINTING FINGERS AT YOU. YOUR ERA SUCKS. THAT'S THAT. UNTIL SOMEONE STEPS UP TO THE PLATE AND PUTS THEM SELF IN A CLASS OF THEIR OWN...
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