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this has been an insane day of boxing.
Chisora spits water in Wlad's face, nearly pulls off the upset against Vitali, brawl after the fight including glass bottles, Arreola goes off on Don King calls him a "fucking racist", Campillo gets robbed against Cloud and Williams and Ishida fight toe to toe for 12 rounds.
Chisora spits water in Wlad's face, nearly pulls off the upset against Vitali, brawl after the fight including glass bottles, Arreola goes off on Don King calls him a "fucking racist", Campillo gets robbed against Cloud and Williams and Ishida fight toe to toe for 12 rounds.
vitali looked like shit if chisora could actually put something together in the later rounds then yeah he would have pulled it off. But he didn't though. Almost everyone thought he won 4 or 5 rounds (I gave him 4 rounds). That's coming up a bit short.
And while that's probably not a big deal for any other fight, why that's crazy is cuz Vitali hasn't lost more than 1-2 rounds since he fought Lennox Lewis.
And while that's probably not a big deal for any other fight, why that's crazy is cuz Vitali hasn't lost more than 1-2 rounds since he fought Lennox Lewis.
Campillo boxed circles around Cloud and hit him with clean shots from round 2-12. Bad judging for Campillo 3 times in a row. Paul Williams won easily, but he still looks a step or two slower then the old Paul.
Chisora vs Haye was too funny
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Chisora vs Haye was too funny
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British Boxer Dereck Chisora Detained
By CIARAN FAHEY Associated Press
MUNICH February 19, 2012 (AP)
British heavyweight Dereck Chisora was detained by police after losing a title bout to Vitali Klitschko and then brawling with former WBA champion David Haye at a post-fight news conference.
Chisora and his coach, Don Charles, were held at the Munich airport Sunday and later taken to police headquarters for questioning, police said.
"Then we will decide whether to proceed further (with charges)," police spokesman Gottfried Schlicht told The Associated Press.
Schlicht said the police were still looking for Haye, who wasn't at his hotel. The Munich-based Sueddeutsche Zeitung reported that Haye went straight to the airport after the brawl Saturday night and took a flight at dawn.
Police were considering possible charges of causing bodily harm and attempting bodily harm. Chisora was heard vowing to shoot Haye.
"I swear to God, David, I am going to shoot you. I am going to shoot you. I am going to physically shoot David Haye," Chisora was heard yelling as he claimed that Haye hit him with a glass.
Chisora's promoter, Frank Warren, called the brawl "ugly, horrible and disgraceful" but said it was not his boxer who threw the first punch.
"It was an embarrassment for British boxing," Warren told Sky Sports News. "I would say they were total idiots."
Chisora and Haye came to blows after Chisora's defeat by unanimous decision to Klitschko in their WBC title fight.
Adam Booth
AP
Coach of David Haye, Adam Booth, left, bleeds... View Full Caption
Chisora taunted Haye about losing the WBA belt to Klitschko's younger brother, Wladimir, last July, leading to a heated exchange before Chisora knocked a bottle out of Haye's hand and they came to blows.
Haye also fought with members of Chisora's entourage, and his coach, Adam Booth, was bleeding from a cut on his head.
Camera equipment went flying and reporters fled before security managed to separate the men and police arrived.
"You've really lost it this time," Chisora told Haye.
The 40-year-old Klitschko beat Chisora in a bruising bout in which the Ukrainian claimed to have fought from the fourth round with only his right fist after injuring his left shoulder. Klitschko was examined in a Munich hospital Sunday and later reported a partially torn ligament in his left shoulder.
"I think we all heard excuses about a broken toe," Chisora said before the brawl, referring to Haye's claim after his defeat to Wladimir Klitschko in Germany last July.
Chisora found little support from the sellout crowd of 12,500 after slapping Vitali Klitschko's face at the weigh-in Friday. The ill feelings continued when he spat water in Wladimir's face as his brother's record was being called out before their bout.
"I wanted to knock him out, to be honest," Vitali Klitschko said. "Such a cheek."
Wladimir acted as a buffer as Chisora persisted in goading them.
Vitali was clearly incensed, but it took some time before he could assert control in the ring against the Briton's aggressive approach. His greater reach and experience made the difference. The judges scored the bout 118-110, 118-110 and 119-111.
Chisora said he wanted a rematch, or a bout with Wladimir, who is now holder of the IBF and the minor WBO and IBO belts. The younger Klitschko is to fight next against Jean-Marc Mormeck of France on March 3 in Duesseldorf, Germany.
But the British fighter was not optimistic about a rematch.
"He won't fight me again. I don't blame you. I wouldn't fight me either," he said.
By CIARAN FAHEY Associated Press
MUNICH February 19, 2012 (AP)
British heavyweight Dereck Chisora was detained by police after losing a title bout to Vitali Klitschko and then brawling with former WBA champion David Haye at a post-fight news conference.
Chisora and his coach, Don Charles, were held at the Munich airport Sunday and later taken to police headquarters for questioning, police said.
"Then we will decide whether to proceed further (with charges)," police spokesman Gottfried Schlicht told The Associated Press.
Schlicht said the police were still looking for Haye, who wasn't at his hotel. The Munich-based Sueddeutsche Zeitung reported that Haye went straight to the airport after the brawl Saturday night and took a flight at dawn.
Police were considering possible charges of causing bodily harm and attempting bodily harm. Chisora was heard vowing to shoot Haye.
"I swear to God, David, I am going to shoot you. I am going to shoot you. I am going to physically shoot David Haye," Chisora was heard yelling as he claimed that Haye hit him with a glass.
Chisora's promoter, Frank Warren, called the brawl "ugly, horrible and disgraceful" but said it was not his boxer who threw the first punch.
"It was an embarrassment for British boxing," Warren told Sky Sports News. "I would say they were total idiots."
Chisora and Haye came to blows after Chisora's defeat by unanimous decision to Klitschko in their WBC title fight.
Adam Booth
AP
Coach of David Haye, Adam Booth, left, bleeds... View Full Caption
Chisora taunted Haye about losing the WBA belt to Klitschko's younger brother, Wladimir, last July, leading to a heated exchange before Chisora knocked a bottle out of Haye's hand and they came to blows.
Haye also fought with members of Chisora's entourage, and his coach, Adam Booth, was bleeding from a cut on his head.
Camera equipment went flying and reporters fled before security managed to separate the men and police arrived.
"You've really lost it this time," Chisora told Haye.
The 40-year-old Klitschko beat Chisora in a bruising bout in which the Ukrainian claimed to have fought from the fourth round with only his right fist after injuring his left shoulder. Klitschko was examined in a Munich hospital Sunday and later reported a partially torn ligament in his left shoulder.
"I think we all heard excuses about a broken toe," Chisora said before the brawl, referring to Haye's claim after his defeat to Wladimir Klitschko in Germany last July.
Chisora found little support from the sellout crowd of 12,500 after slapping Vitali Klitschko's face at the weigh-in Friday. The ill feelings continued when he spat water in Wladimir's face as his brother's record was being called out before their bout.
"I wanted to knock him out, to be honest," Vitali Klitschko said. "Such a cheek."
Wladimir acted as a buffer as Chisora persisted in goading them.
Vitali was clearly incensed, but it took some time before he could assert control in the ring against the Briton's aggressive approach. His greater reach and experience made the difference. The judges scored the bout 118-110, 118-110 and 119-111.
Chisora said he wanted a rematch, or a bout with Wladimir, who is now holder of the IBF and the minor WBO and IBO belts. The younger Klitschko is to fight next against Jean-Marc Mormeck of France on March 3 in Duesseldorf, Germany.
But the British fighter was not optimistic about a rematch.
"He won't fight me again. I don't blame you. I wouldn't fight me either," he said.
Haye had little choice but to hit Chisora first
February 19th, 2012
(David Haye seen here at the post fight press conference on Saturday. In Haye’s right hand appears to be a bottle. This could be the bottle that exploded when Haye hit Chisora in the face when confronted by him) By Eric Thomas: Both David Haye and Dereck Chisora are now in a lot of hot water due to their skirmish at the press conference after WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko defeated Chisora by a 12 round unanimous decision on Saturday night.
Haye invited himself to the press conference, no doubt with the intention of trying to weasel a fight with Vitali and get another big payday like the one he got against his brother Wladimir Klitschko last year. Haye was asked to leave by a Chisora’s trainer Don Charles but he ignored it, and kept asking Vitali why he wouldn’t agree to fight.
Chisora then cut in on the conversation, telling Haye to “Be quiet” After which, Chisora asked Haye to fight him next. Where things got messy is when Chisora decided to get up out of his chair and confront Haye in the audience. Previous to all this, Chisora had already threatened to slap Haye in the face as soon as he saw him.
Haye obviously knew this and was also likely aware that Chisora had hit Vitali without warning with a slap across the face in last Saturday’s press conference. So, when Chisora walked up on Haye in the audience, it likely gave Haye a feeling like he was going to get hit by Chisora.
Haye didn’t wait to find, as he threw a right hand as soon as Chisora got to him, decking him with the shot. You could see it as self defense at that point. He could have waited but given that Chisora had already said he was going to slap him as soon as he saw him, it’s understandable why Haye didn’t wait to get hit. But where Haye messed up is when he picked up a camera tripod and used it as a weapon to fight. That’s obviously not a good thing.
Assault with your fists is one thing, but with a camera tripod, it’s much worse. Haye also appeared to hit Chisora with a class bottle when he punched him because something exploded when his punch landed and Chisora got up off the deck saying he had been “Glassed” by Haye. That, of course, is a big no-no. You don’t take someone with a bottle and then turn around and try to brain them with a heavy camera tripod. Haye might have been feeling like he fighting Chisora’s entire entourage, as he walked on Haye with at least two of his team standing behind him.
February 19th, 2012
(David Haye seen here at the post fight press conference on Saturday. In Haye’s right hand appears to be a bottle. This could be the bottle that exploded when Haye hit Chisora in the face when confronted by him) By Eric Thomas: Both David Haye and Dereck Chisora are now in a lot of hot water due to their skirmish at the press conference after WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko defeated Chisora by a 12 round unanimous decision on Saturday night.
Haye invited himself to the press conference, no doubt with the intention of trying to weasel a fight with Vitali and get another big payday like the one he got against his brother Wladimir Klitschko last year. Haye was asked to leave by a Chisora’s trainer Don Charles but he ignored it, and kept asking Vitali why he wouldn’t agree to fight.
Chisora then cut in on the conversation, telling Haye to “Be quiet” After which, Chisora asked Haye to fight him next. Where things got messy is when Chisora decided to get up out of his chair and confront Haye in the audience. Previous to all this, Chisora had already threatened to slap Haye in the face as soon as he saw him.
Haye obviously knew this and was also likely aware that Chisora had hit Vitali without warning with a slap across the face in last Saturday’s press conference. So, when Chisora walked up on Haye in the audience, it likely gave Haye a feeling like he was going to get hit by Chisora.
Haye didn’t wait to find, as he threw a right hand as soon as Chisora got to him, decking him with the shot. You could see it as self defense at that point. He could have waited but given that Chisora had already said he was going to slap him as soon as he saw him, it’s understandable why Haye didn’t wait to get hit. But where Haye messed up is when he picked up a camera tripod and used it as a weapon to fight. That’s obviously not a good thing.
Assault with your fists is one thing, but with a camera tripod, it’s much worse. Haye also appeared to hit Chisora with a class bottle when he punched him because something exploded when his punch landed and Chisora got up off the deck saying he had been “Glassed” by Haye. That, of course, is a big no-no. You don’t take someone with a bottle and then turn around and try to brain them with a heavy camera tripod. Haye might have been feeling like he fighting Chisora’s entire entourage, as he walked on Haye with at least two of his team standing behind him.
Chisora arrested, Haye being sought by German police
February 19th, 2012
(David Haye seen here in the photo landing a right hand to the head of Chisora. The spots in the air appear to be glass shattering as Haye lands his punch) By Jason Kim: British heavyweight Dereck Chisora has reportedly already been arrested by the German police at the Munich airport, according to the guardian.co.uk, and former WBA heavyweight champion David Haye is being sought by the police for questioning in connection to their brawl during the post fight press conference on Saturday after WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko defeated Chisora in Munich, Germany.
The Guardian reported the police saying “Mr. Chisora was arrested after police went to the airport where he was at approximately 10:30 this morning.”
The issues that the German police were concerned about is Chisora’s statements about wanting to shoot Haye that he made during the post fight press conference. The comments were caught on video and Chisora wasn’t shy about being heard. He made the comments in a loud voice and repeated it. In addition, he also said he wanted to burn Haye, although he could have meant that in a different sense such as wanting to get back at him. It’s hard to know for sure.
Haye came to the post fight press conference with what appeared to be the purpose of trying to pressure Vitali into agreeing to fight him. However, Vitali’s manager Bernd Boente cut Haye off, telling him that he had lost his chance and suggesting that he fight Chisora instead. Chisora and his promoter Frank Warren jumped at the chance of a Haye-Chisora fight.
Haye then pointed out that Chisora was unsuitable because he had lost his last three fights, which wasn’t actually true. He had lost three of his last four fights, not three in a row like Haye was saying. Chisora took issue with this, and dared Haye to say it to his face. Chisora walked up on Haye and got smashed in the face with what looked like his fist wrapped around a beer bottle or some kind of bottle. Chisora went down and got back angry and saying that Haye had hit him with glass. Haye briefly fought with Chisora’s trainer before picking up a camera tripod and heaving it at them. It unfortunately hit his own trainer/manager Adam Booth, cutting badly above his left eye. After all of this, Haye disappeared off camera and that’s when Chisora made comments about wanting to shoot him.
February 19th, 2012
(David Haye seen here in the photo landing a right hand to the head of Chisora. The spots in the air appear to be glass shattering as Haye lands his punch) By Jason Kim: British heavyweight Dereck Chisora has reportedly already been arrested by the German police at the Munich airport, according to the guardian.co.uk, and former WBA heavyweight champion David Haye is being sought by the police for questioning in connection to their brawl during the post fight press conference on Saturday after WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko defeated Chisora in Munich, Germany.
The Guardian reported the police saying “Mr. Chisora was arrested after police went to the airport where he was at approximately 10:30 this morning.”
The issues that the German police were concerned about is Chisora’s statements about wanting to shoot Haye that he made during the post fight press conference. The comments were caught on video and Chisora wasn’t shy about being heard. He made the comments in a loud voice and repeated it. In addition, he also said he wanted to burn Haye, although he could have meant that in a different sense such as wanting to get back at him. It’s hard to know for sure.
Haye came to the post fight press conference with what appeared to be the purpose of trying to pressure Vitali into agreeing to fight him. However, Vitali’s manager Bernd Boente cut Haye off, telling him that he had lost his chance and suggesting that he fight Chisora instead. Chisora and his promoter Frank Warren jumped at the chance of a Haye-Chisora fight.
Haye then pointed out that Chisora was unsuitable because he had lost his last three fights, which wasn’t actually true. He had lost three of his last four fights, not three in a row like Haye was saying. Chisora took issue with this, and dared Haye to say it to his face. Chisora walked up on Haye and got smashed in the face with what looked like his fist wrapped around a beer bottle or some kind of bottle. Chisora went down and got back angry and saying that Haye had hit him with glass. Haye briefly fought with Chisora’s trainer before picking up a camera tripod and heaving it at them. It unfortunately hit his own trainer/manager Adam Booth, cutting badly above his left eye. After all of this, Haye disappeared off camera and that’s when Chisora made comments about wanting to shoot him.
Klitschko manager: No more British fighters; we’ve had too many bad experiences
February 19th, 2012
By Scott Gilfoid: It looks like Dereck Chisora (15-3, 9 KO’s) and David Haye burned their bridges for themselves and for other British fighters in terms of trying to get payday bouts against the Klitschko brothers after a brawl ignited during the post fight press conference after the Vitali Klitschko vs. Chisora bout in Munich.
Haye’s manager Adam Booth got cut on the face, Chisora appeared to get a glass smashed on his face and there was a lot of swearing, wrestling and harsh language.
Bernd Boente, the manager for the Klitschko brothers, was quoted by the BBC Sport saying “With the bad experience we’ve had with British fighters, we will now look for other countries.”
My, my look what the Brits did this time. They went and blew it for themselves. I totally agree with Mr. Boente. I was so sad at the way Haye and Chisora conducted themselves. I didn’t hear much of the King’s English during the press conference, as it seemed like every word was an F word. It was just so sad. Why should the Klitschkos put up with these terrible manners. It was too primitive for my tastes and I imagine the wealthy Klitschkos as well.
Can you blame them? I mean, come on. Chisora smacks Vitali in the face on Friday’s press conference, and then spits in Wladimir’s face before the fight on Saturday. After the fight, Chisora has words with Vitali and Wladimir after the fight in the ring instead of congratulating up and down for his impressive performance. And that’s just Chisora.
Look at Haye. The guy talked mucho bull s*** about Wladimir before their fight last July, talking about putting him in the hospital, creating shirt showing the decapitated heads of both Klitschkos and then he turns up and runs all night long on the night of the fight. After the bout, Haye blames his loss on a broken toe he went into the fight with. Why after all that hassle would the Klitschkos want to fight another Brit? It’s not worth it.
Too much bellyaching, too much crying and too much gum flapping from the angry Brits. I’m totally in agreement with Boente. The Klitschko brothers need to fight guys that are civil and show the proper respect that the talented Klitschkos deserve. Until the British heavyweights are ready to conduct themselves with class like the Klitschkos, I saw ignore them indefinitely.
I think the Brits should fight among themselves while the Klitschkos move onto other parts of the world to conquer. They’ve already beaten the best that the Brits can offer and there are other countries to conquer. Let the Brits argue and brawl if they want to, but the Klitschkos need to move on
February 19th, 2012
By Scott Gilfoid: It looks like Dereck Chisora (15-3, 9 KO’s) and David Haye burned their bridges for themselves and for other British fighters in terms of trying to get payday bouts against the Klitschko brothers after a brawl ignited during the post fight press conference after the Vitali Klitschko vs. Chisora bout in Munich.
Haye’s manager Adam Booth got cut on the face, Chisora appeared to get a glass smashed on his face and there was a lot of swearing, wrestling and harsh language.
Bernd Boente, the manager for the Klitschko brothers, was quoted by the BBC Sport saying “With the bad experience we’ve had with British fighters, we will now look for other countries.”
My, my look what the Brits did this time. They went and blew it for themselves. I totally agree with Mr. Boente. I was so sad at the way Haye and Chisora conducted themselves. I didn’t hear much of the King’s English during the press conference, as it seemed like every word was an F word. It was just so sad. Why should the Klitschkos put up with these terrible manners. It was too primitive for my tastes and I imagine the wealthy Klitschkos as well.
Can you blame them? I mean, come on. Chisora smacks Vitali in the face on Friday’s press conference, and then spits in Wladimir’s face before the fight on Saturday. After the fight, Chisora has words with Vitali and Wladimir after the fight in the ring instead of congratulating up and down for his impressive performance. And that’s just Chisora.
Look at Haye. The guy talked mucho bull s*** about Wladimir before their fight last July, talking about putting him in the hospital, creating shirt showing the decapitated heads of both Klitschkos and then he turns up and runs all night long on the night of the fight. After the bout, Haye blames his loss on a broken toe he went into the fight with. Why after all that hassle would the Klitschkos want to fight another Brit? It’s not worth it.
Too much bellyaching, too much crying and too much gum flapping from the angry Brits. I’m totally in agreement with Boente. The Klitschko brothers need to fight guys that are civil and show the proper respect that the talented Klitschkos deserve. Until the British heavyweights are ready to conduct themselves with class like the Klitschkos, I saw ignore them indefinitely.
I think the Brits should fight among themselves while the Klitschkos move onto other parts of the world to conquer. They’ve already beaten the best that the Brits can offer and there are other countries to conquer. Let the Brits argue and brawl if they want to, but the Klitschkos need to move on
Vitali wins by decision but admits – ‘If Chisora had been faster, I would have been in trouble’
February 18th, 2012
By Ed Hoyle: Tonight Derek Chisora arguably put WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klistchko through his toughest fight since the Ukrainian’s TKO loss to Britain’s Lennox Lewis over ten years ago. Klitschko after the fight conceded that he was disappointed that he was unable to knock Chisora out but in truth, he never appeared to even hurt the tough Brit, albeit knock him out.
The fight itself was one of the more entertaining heavy weight bouts in recent years. Each man took and gave hard shots and Chisora in particular gave an excellent account of himself. However, over the course of the 12 rounds, it was the 6’7″ Ukrainian who was able to produce the cleaner work of the two, utilizing sharp right hands and uppercuts.
Like the majority of boxing critics, I only gave Chisora a puncher’s chance but was astonished and surprised at the spirited attempt made in attacking Klitschko’s body and head. However, despite being under constant pressure, Klitschko was never seriously troubled, courtesy of his iron chin and effective head movement.
Ironically, despite winning and retaining his title, Vitali may have been sent into retirement by the British bulldog as he on really did look his 40 years tonight. It’s unfortunate that Chisora’s performance will forever be tainted due to his erratic and unsavory conduct outside the ring.
As for the future, there’s already talk of a fight between Chisora and Wladimir Klitschko, paving way for David Haye to now take a shot at Vitali. However, based on tonight’s performance it would be surprising if Vitali’s promoter lets him anywhere near a hard hitting, speed merchant like Haye.
February 18th, 2012
By Ed Hoyle: Tonight Derek Chisora arguably put WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klistchko through his toughest fight since the Ukrainian’s TKO loss to Britain’s Lennox Lewis over ten years ago. Klitschko after the fight conceded that he was disappointed that he was unable to knock Chisora out but in truth, he never appeared to even hurt the tough Brit, albeit knock him out.
The fight itself was one of the more entertaining heavy weight bouts in recent years. Each man took and gave hard shots and Chisora in particular gave an excellent account of himself. However, over the course of the 12 rounds, it was the 6’7″ Ukrainian who was able to produce the cleaner work of the two, utilizing sharp right hands and uppercuts.
Like the majority of boxing critics, I only gave Chisora a puncher’s chance but was astonished and surprised at the spirited attempt made in attacking Klitschko’s body and head. However, despite being under constant pressure, Klitschko was never seriously troubled, courtesy of his iron chin and effective head movement.
Ironically, despite winning and retaining his title, Vitali may have been sent into retirement by the British bulldog as he on really did look his 40 years tonight. It’s unfortunate that Chisora’s performance will forever be tainted due to his erratic and unsavory conduct outside the ring.
As for the future, there’s already talk of a fight between Chisora and Wladimir Klitschko, paving way for David Haye to now take a shot at Vitali. However, based on tonight’s performance it would be surprising if Vitali’s promoter lets him anywhere near a hard hitting, speed merchant like Haye.