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Sixxness said:
You know, I'd have to agree with you. With the exception of MAYBE 1-2 people at the very most.
I have 4 (and probably more that I don't know of) close female friends who have been raped, and in no way were they anything worth being raped. I do have friends who were basically hood pussy who also had that shit happen to them but thats a different story.

Whats funny about the topic of rape is that when it comes up dudes is quick to pull out the "possibility" or the "speculative" angle. "You know she SAID she was raped but really who knows?" "These bitches be accusin everybody", etc etc.

As if defending unnamed men you don't know in situations you know nothing about makes you some sort of cheerleader puttin it down for the team or some shit.

The reality of rape is that it is a brutal, vicious,m horrible thing that ruins lives. And the truth is that rapes go UNDERreported, not over reported (rapists tend to be someone the victim knows). Dudes always pull out this self-righteous "man card" like they on some savage shit; "Fuck a bitch, bitch probly lyin anyways" whenever female issues come up knowing damn well women get the worst of situations 99 percent of the time.
 
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Sixxness said:
It makes women feel like they aren't as good as they "should" be. They feel violated. Breast implants will make that go away because they'll feel better about their appearance, so their mental problems aren't as previlent.

Breast implants are a quick fix for mental issues. There are quite a few issues that many females develope after being raped. A low self image is one of them, breast implants make that go away. Hense, they are shallow because all that really matters to them is their personal appearance not their mental health.

maybe thats her way of dealing with it? maybe thats what helps her heal mentally? it maybe considered a quick fix for you, but to her it may change her life in a positive way.

now, i do see the contradiction there as she was raped twice, i do think that the breasts will attract more attention from males.

however, none of us is this woman, and we do not know 100% how her mind works.

~k.
 

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Sixxness said:
I don't see what rape has to do with breast implants, unless it's self-image. In which case, the woman should definately seek therapy or counseling before any sort of surgery.
IN THIS CASE, IT HAS HAPPENED THAT SHE STARTED TAKIN' THERAPY AND THAT'S HOW I FOUND OUT THAT SHE WAS RAPED.

Sixxness said:
Only contradiction I see is that each thing (rapist and breast implants) are both foreign ojbects that will be introduced to her body...and one is wanted and the other isn't because of physical appearance and emotional stability...
TRUE. BUT IF SHE AIN'T EMOTIONALLY STABLE, WHY WOULD YOU RISK YOUR HEALTH?

Sixxness said:
If that doesn't make sense, let me know, and I'll try to re-word it...I was having some trouble saying it how I wanted to.
YEAH, RE-WORD IT.

surcaliman said:
so a rape victim has no right to feel good about herself by enhancing her physical appearance?
A LITTLE SUPERFICIAL TO ME. IT'S ALL VANITY.

surcaliman said:
^^i agree with u completely.....but edj was asking if thats contradictory,i dont see how it could be...its kinda like hes saying that if a woman gets implants,she's asking for ''it''.
DON'T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I'M JUST SAYIN' IF SOMEONE gETS RAPED, WHY WOULD THEY EVEN CONSIDER BREAST IMPLANTS(SOMETHIN' THAT'S SUPERFICIAL)?

jon21 said:
i dont see why the female shouldnt. i mean its not her fault she got rapped in the first place. just because there are low lives out there doesnt mean the girl shouldnt go on ahead with it if she feels she needs or wants to get the implants. if she does get them, im not complaining...lol
CAUSE IT'S A RISK TO HER HEALTH FOR ONE.

AND TWO, YOU BRINgIN' MORE UNECESSARY ATTENTION TO YOURSELF.

THREE, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE?

oakraiders9 said:
Just to play EDJ's advocate here, if a woman got raped, she didn't ask for it, but it DID happen to her. Now, breast implants would surely bring more attention to her from guys than before. It just seems a little contradictory in a sense that after being raped, she wants to attract MORE attention?
EXACTLY!

WHITE DEVIL said:
Blaming the woman for being raped - "She was dressing provocatively!" is about the most ridiculous, asinine caveman shit I've ever heard.
WHO'S BLAMIN'' WHAT WOMAN?

WHITE DEVIL said:
Equating rape with male attention is another twist of mental gymnastics that even I couldn't do.
AND WHO'S DOIN' THAT? RAPE IS A REPERCUSSION OF ATTENTION.

WHITE DEVIL said:
"She didn't want the attention when she was raped, but NOW she wants the attention?
READ ABOVE.

WHITE DEVIL said:
Why doesn't she make up her mind? Does she want men to interact with her or not?"
OF COURSE WOMEN DO. BUT IF YOU RAPED TWICE, SHOULDN'T YOU BE SCARRED SOME KIND OF WAY?

WHITE DEVIL said:
Getting guys to notice you and having someone rape you are not even remotely connected. Male interaction with women is not the same as rape.

rofl.
SO YOU SAYIN' THAT RAPE DOESN'T TAKE SOME SORT OF INTERACTION?

WHITE DEVIL said:
Are rape victims supposed to be ashamed of themselves and wear a burqa? Like they fucked some shit up?
NAW, BUT YOU SHOULDN'T RISK YOUR HEALTH BY SUPERFICIAL VANITY INDUCED THOUgHTS(BREAST IMPLANTS). WOMEN SHOULD BE HAPPY AND PROUD OF WHO THEY ARE(RAPED OR NOT). gETTIN' BREAST IMPLANTS DOESN'T SOLVE PROBLEMS OR SCARS. JUST MAKES MORE.

WHITE DEVIL said:
Whats funny about the topic of rape is that when it comes up dudes is quick to pull out the "possibility" or the "speculative" angle. "You know she SAID she was raped but really who knows?" "These bitches be accusin everybody", etc etc.
YOU ACT LIKE THERE AIN'T WOMEN THAT ARE CANIVIN'(SP?) REgARDLESS, AS ANAL AS IT MAY BE, EVERYBODY SHOULDN'T BE gIVEN THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT OFF TOP.

WHITE DEVIL said:
As if defending unnamed men you don't know in situations you know nothing about makes you some sort of cheerleader puttin it down for the team or some shit.
AND YOU DEFENDIN' UNNAMED WOMEN CAN BE THE SAME THANg. BUT AIN'T NOBODY DEFENDIN' SHIT BUT QUESTIONIN' THE PRINCIPLES.

WHITE DEVIL said:
The reality of rape is that it is a brutal, vicious,m horrible thing that ruins lives. And the truth is that rapes go UNDERreported, not over reported (rapists tend to be someone the victim knows). Dudes always pull out this self-righteous "man card" like they on some savage shit; "Fuck a bitch, bitch probly lyin anyways" whenever female issues come up knowing damn well women get the worst of situations 99 percent of the time.
PROBABLY SO, BUT WHO'S TO SAY WHAT REALLY HAPPENS? YOU gENERALIZIN'. CAUSE RAPIST ARE SEEN AS PIECES OF SHIT BY 100% OF MEN, BUT YOU SAYIN' "DUDES" PULL OUT "SELF RIgHTEOUS MAN CARDS", LIKE MEN ARE HIPOCRITES TO THE FACT IN gENERAL.


HERESY said:
Elaborate.
I DIDN'T WANT TO gO INTO SPECIFICS, BUT I JUST FOUND OUT THIS FEMALE(MID TWENTIES) gOT RAPED BEFORE(TWICE) AND NOW WANTS IMPLANTS FOR HER BIRTHDAY.

HERESY said:
Also, what were the conditions of the rape?
YOUR gUESS IS AS gOOD AS MINES. BUT FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, LET'S JUST ASSUME ALL POSSIBLE SCENARIO'S HAPPENED.

HERESY said:
Was she raped via a date rape, incest or serial rapist? I'll explain why I asked this later.
I DON'T THINK IT WAS ON SOME INCEST SHIT.
 

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I DIDN'T WANT TO gO INTO SPECIFICS, BUT I JUST FOUND OUT THIS FEMALE(MID TWENTIES) gOT RAPED BEFORE(TWICE) AND NOW WANTS IMPLANTS FOR HER BIRTHDAY.
ok

YOUR gUESS IS AS gOOD AS MINES. BUT FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, LET'S JUST ASSUME ALL POSSIBLE SCENARIO'S HAPPENED.
Without knowing the conditions I can't.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS ON SOME INCEST SHIT.
So that leaves date rape and serial rapist. If this were date rape, that would mean she knew the attacker in some form of fashion. It doesn't matter if she met him that night, met him 5 years ago or had and on and off relationship. In that case, regardless of her cup size, she still attracted the attention of men. So in this case, this guy wanted sex without having to put in the work, and this is different from the serial rapist. The serial rapist usually rapes because it's a power control issue going on or he has something he wants to act out. In addition, most of them usually stick to the same "type" of female, so in this instance, her cup size could have been a factor if he had a thing for smaller breasts -- in which case larger breasts will not gain his attention.

Now you have to think about it for a second. Women who are raped usually end up suffering mental trauma and issues involving self esteem. Many women report feelings of "ugliness", and often push their partners away because they feel "unattractive" because the rape made them feel "dirty" (and this is one of the reasons why some women wash themselves 900 times a day after a rape.) This could be a way for her to move on and come out of her shell, and I think you need to focus on the emotional/mental state that rape leaves a person in.
 

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EDJ said:
IN THIS CASE, IT HAS HAPPENED THAT SHE STARTED TAKIN' THERAPY AND THAT'S HOW I FOUND OUT THAT SHE WAS RAPED.
Okay, good thing she's in therapy.

TRUE. BUT IF SHE AIN'T EMOTIONALLY STABLE, WHY WOULD YOU RISK YOUR HEALTH?
People do stupid things all the time to make themselves feel better about themselves.

Therapy takes a long time and someone violating your body like that, isn't something you forget once you get some new boobs.....

She's obviously got issues still cause she's still in therapy, so maybe like 5 more years and she'd be fine to get implants, maybe. But if she isn't stable, adding things like that to her life, in my opinion, will only add to other negative aspects that she probably hasn't though about (being raped again--not that it will happen, but it could).

I'm not tryin to say breast implants are an excuse to rape someone.....or that girls who dress provacatively are asking for it...that's not true. But it is true that this girl has some mental issues she needs to work out before she thinks about drastically changing her body.

Either that, or this could be the one thing that makes her feel liberated from being violated twice.

To each their own, I dont know her so I can't say what's best for her, I'm just speaking from what I've experienced with others.
 

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Sixxness said:
Okay, good thing she's in therapy.



People do stupid things all the time to make themselves feel better about themselves.

Therapy takes a long time and someone violating your body like that, isn't something you forget once you get some new boobs.....

She's obviously got issues still cause she's still in therapy, so maybe like 5 more years and she'd be fine to get implants, maybe. But if she isn't stable, adding things like that to her life, in my opinion, will only add to other negative aspects that she probably hasn't though about (being raped again--not that it will happen, but it could).

I'm not tryin to say breast implants are an excuse to rape someone.....or that girls who dress provacatively are asking for it...that's not true. But it is true that this girl has some mental issues she needs to work out before she thinks about drastically changing her body.

Either that, or this could be the one thing that makes her feel liberated from being violated twice.

To each their own, I dont know her so I can't say what's best for her, I'm just speaking from what I've experienced with others.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN' BOUT.
 

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HERESY said:
ok



Without knowing the conditions I can't.



So that leaves date rape and serial rapist. If this were date rape, that would mean she knew the attacker in some form of fashion. It doesn't matter if she met him that night, met him 5 years ago or had and on and off relationship. In that case, regardless of her cup size, she still attracted the attention of men. So in this case, this guy wanted sex without having to put in the work, and this is different from the serial rapist. The serial rapist usually rapes because it's a power control issue going on or he has something he wants to act out. In addition, most of them usually stick to the same "type" of female, so in this instance, her cup size could have been a factor if he had a thing for smaller breasts -- in which case larger breasts will not gain his attention.

Now you have to think about it for a second. Women who are raped usually end up suffering mental trauma and issues involving self esteem. Many women report feelings of "ugliness", and often push their partners away because they feel "unattractive" because the rape made them feel "dirty" (and this is one of the reasons why some women wash themselves 900 times a day after a rape.) This could be a way for her to move on and come out of her shell, and I think you need to focus on the emotional/mental state that rape leaves a person in.
SO BASICALLY YOU SAYIN' IT'S THERAPEAUTIC TO gET SOME TITTIES? SO YOU SHOULD TREAT SELF-ESTEEM ISSUES WITH SUPERFICIALISM AND gIVE IN TO THE NOTION THAT YOU CARE ABOUT WHAT OTHAS THINK OF YOU TO THE POINT YOU RISK YOUR HEALTH, TO gET A POSITIVE PERCEPTION? DO YOU CONDONE THIS?
 
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Yes it's a contradiction. Just Like Dave Chapelle says, just because I'm dressed like a whore does not mean I'm a whore, BITCH YO TITAYS BE HANGING OUT, WTF ARE DO YOU EXPECT ME TO FEEL! Getting Implants basically says, I want Attention, LOOK AT MY TITTIES, then when she gets enticed by the wrong man, Then What. The Wrong man being another rapist.
 
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So if you dressed like a ho, you wouldn't mind people thinking you're a Ho? So if you get raped, you won't change the way you dress? But before you answer that, EDJ do you know the woman personally and how she presents herself?
 
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as a matter of fact, i can relate to this issue. i dont need to wait for anyone else to respond.

so to answer your question, no, i didnt change the way i dress. i do understand that certain ways of dress attract extra attention, and i just brush off the extra attention. do i like the extra attention? no, never have.

~k.
 
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WOW! Then man, that's shit is sad, Rapists, Pedophiles, and cold Blooded Murderer, are the lowest levels on earth. Unless they repent, which is hard to believe. Damn Kayvee it's like that, I hope you're doing better, damn.