wow bakersfield is almost as high in crime than la.....

[TROLL]

ok then,how much influence does the government have on u nortenos?

wtf does that have to do with the topic at hand? nobody got specific on which side has what..

 

[surcaliman]

Yet, you refute that the government has any involvement with the ongoing gang epidemic. Pick a side of the argument and sitck with it, please.

i said they dont have MUCH of an influence and they dont.that cia iran/contra thing was a long time ago buddy

everybody should know about the cia's involvment with the crack epidemic,especially here in L.A(check out american gangster or bastards of the party)....but thats old news.

 

[surcaliman]

wtf does that have to do with the topic at hand? nobody got specific on which side has what..

becouse u either believe the gov. still has influence on gangs or u dont.and if u do believe they have an influence,i'd like to know why u choose to be part of it.

 

[TROLL]

becouse u either believe the gov. still has influence on gangs or u dont.

i did more then just make a statement, i proved my point..

and if u do believe they have an influence,i'd like to know why u choose to be part of it.

its been such a big part of my life it wouldnt make sense to just wake up and go "ok, im civilian now"... doesnt work like that, id rather be on the frontline within the ranks waking up as many homies as i can..

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

i said they dont have MUCH of an influence and they dont.that cia iran/contra thing was a long time ago buddy

It STILL exsists, bro. How the FUCK do you think coke gets in the country? You think these planes just SNEAK buy undetected??? Those C-13's were PURCHASED by the GOVERNMENT for THAT reason.

Do some research, it still seems you are lacking proper knowledge on the subject.

There are MANY other reasons besides drugs as to why the government LETS gang violence go on. Is it any coincidence that it was only a problem when it started showing up in SUBURBAN areas??? Same thing with crack...the goverment gave a flying FUCK about it...UNTIL it started showing up on Wall Street and white people were becoming addicts of it.

Like i said, the government WANTS you t9o kill your own kind...or is this concept to hard for you to grab? If so, then YES, you are a governmnet robot, programmed to think that youre own RACE is your enemy...all the while the politicians are LAUGHING at you and callin you idiots...

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

its been such a big part of my life it wouldnt make sense to just wake up and go "ok, im civilian now"... doesnt work like that, id rather be on the frontline within the ranks waking up as many homies as i can..

And this is the point i am making. Troll understands WHAT is going on and as a gang member, he is at least being SOME sort of revolutionist, as opposed to just some mindless turf protector.

 

[x-loc]

yep we got a fuck up goverment

 

[ConstantElevation]

It STILL exsists, bro. How the FUCK do you think coke gets in the country? You think these planes just SNEAK buy undetected??? Those C-13's were PURCHASED by the GOVERNMENT for THAT reason.

Do some research, it still seems you are lacking proper knowledge on the subject.

There are MANY other reasons besides drugs as to why the government LETS gang violence go on. Is it any coincidence that it was only a problem when it started showing up in SUBURBAN areas??? Same thing with crack...the goverment gave a flying FUCK about it...UNTIL it started showing up on Wall Street and white people were becoming addicts of it.

Like i said, the government WANTS you t9o kill your own kind...or is this concept to hard for you to grab? If so, then YES, you are a governmnet robot, programmed to think that youre own RACE is your enemy...all the while the politicians are LAUGHING at you and callin you idiots...

thanks 2 troll n u 4 droppin knowledge... but you gotta watch this shit.... you don't know who's on the internet. for all we know half this site is full of undercover cops in whatever form.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

thanks 2 troll n u 4 droppin knowledge... but you gotta watch this shit.... you don't know who's on the internet. for all we know half this site is full of undercover cops in whatever form.

Nothing said by Troll or I is incriminating. It is all information that is readily available on the internet and quite frankly, the government already knows.

 

[Tas n Doe 4da05]

that aint shit thouh i one year we had like 100 gang homicides in 4 months
it was back in 2000 i belive or 1999...

yall aint had shit like that.. i use ta live in bakersfield..its grimmy but it aint on no shit like that

 

[28g w/o the bag]

lol, bakersfield had 23 and 24 homicides total in 1999 and 2000

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[LurccH918]

lol, bakersfield had 23 and 24 homicides total in 1999 and 2000

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LMAO

dude said it was like over 100 LOL

 

[28g w/o the bag]

i don't know where dude got that info from, but 100 homicides in 4 months in a city the size of bakersfield would be grounds for a congressional hearing

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[HUERO''909]

^^L.A. has a big influense allover the southwest...vegas,arizona...all been affected by L.A. residents moving there and bringing their mentality there...look at cities like palmdale,lancaster,riverside.san bernardino(all with high crime rates)....theres countless articles talkin bout how L.A. residents moving out there and fukin shit up..im sure the same holds for bakersfield

aint really true for SB and RIverside or most places in the IE..most the shit that goes down out here is all native to here...

 

[LurccH918]

i don't know where dude got that info from, but 100 homicides in 4 months in a city the size of bakersfield would be grounds for a congressional hearing

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LMAO!!HAHHAAHAH

 

[surcaliman]

aint really true for SB and RIverside or most places in the IE..most the shit that goes down out here is all native to here...

^^it's the L.A. influence and mentality though..whats every mexican and black gangmember in the i.e. bangin?..prolly sureno,crip or blood.where did those cliks originate?..read this part of where u quoted me..

L.A. residents moving there and bringing their mentality there

i didnt say its L.A. fools doing the actual dirt..the influence and not giving a fuck mentality..not trynna argue with u but thats just how it is homie.

 

[HUERO''909]

^^it's the L.A. influence and mentality though..whats every mexican and black gangmember in the i.e. bangin?..prolly sureno,crip or blood.where did those cliks originate?..read this part of where u quoted me..i didnt say its L.A. fools doing the actual dirt..the influence and not giving a fuck mentality..not trynna argue with u but thats just how it is homie.

LOL sureno didnt start in la a gang of the original generals was frmo IE...every varrio out here is form here...nothin was started by LA...and as far as the black hoods go....the only thing that was taken was the blood and crip concept....and we actually got ow own black gangs called IE mob with black rags...

varrios out here go back as far as WF and shit in LA..homie ie been bangin for a long ass time...shooting and everything..homies from CB shooting down ghetto birds and shit..LA didnt bring no mentality either cause cities like SB and RIV and ONTA and Pomona had hi crime rates WAY back in the day...

anyways i aint tryin to hate on LOS i used to stay there and i got mad respect for the homie out there...

 

[surcaliman]

^^pomonas part of the i.e.?..i remeber back in the day some vatos from upland los olivos..i dont even know if they were a real gang..they came to the varrio to score sum pcp and had their tails tucked between their legs the whole time..casa blanca..thats the only ol school varrio ivw heard of come out the i.e...i think theyre out in riverside q-no.

 

[HUERO''909]

^^pomonas part of the i.e.?..i remeber back in the day some vatos from upland los olivos..i dont even know if they were a real gang..they came to the varrio and had their tails tucked between their legs..casa blanca..thats the only ol school varrio come out the i.e...i think theyre out in riverside q-no.

pomona is an IE city..but the varrios there claim SGV cause of LA county jail politics and shit...all the beefs pomona has is in pomona and with IE varrios...but yeh CB is an old ass varrio...goes back to the 20s back when it was mostly fields in that side of riva...onterio black angels are form the 40's...CSR is form the 40s...most the established IE varrios are from the 40's and 50's sum a lil before...as far as upland...los olivos had a rep back in the day but there pretty much an inactive varrio now..upland is a nice city...

riverside is mostly racial shit these days...and it was actually prolly the first place to really go at it real bad black on brown..specialy ES riva...

san bernardino is crazy ass city..was the murder capitol of the country back in like 92 or so...

 

[HUERO''909]

lol that story u told about homie from ULO reminded me of this one time this fool form COMPTON T FLATS WHO MOVED TO ONTARIO...anyways dude was thinkin he was all bad and shit cause he from compton dude got fucked up by some fool from OVS and i guess he ended up gettin shot...we'll awhile after dude was all crying talkin about "IM NEVER GONNA MESS AROUND WITH GANG STUFF AGAIN AHHHH" LOL im not even makin that shit up im dead ass..lol fools from compton get punked alot in ontario cause theres alotta fools from CVTF i guess that stay around there