Will America help/liberate Sudan?

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HERESY said:
What's up with america and sudan? They have no oil or minerals? They can't be "liberated"???????????????????? :hurt: :dead:



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Bush cant afford anymore bad pr by liberal idiots and democrats. Maybe when our draft comes into action we will send some help there way.
 
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Or is there not enough political gain in it for them to step in? As if, magically, if any country other than AMERICA comes to the rescue, things are going to magically fall into place without a drop of blood spilling.

There's more than one country in the world, champ. Know about it.
 
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The following is an email I recieved from William Schulz (head of Amnesty Int'l). Not so surprisingly, the general mass population is ignorant and uniformed to the current shituation in Sudan (we can accredit this to terrible biased rightwing conservative media coverage). If you are concerned, write, email, fax or call your local senator's and representative's. Also get ahold of your local news & media sources. As I said, overall the general masses are ignorant of the shituation in Sudan and awarness needs to be raised...


As you read this, more than two million innocent Sudanese men, women and
children face dislocation, disease and starvation. They are victims of
unspeakable state-sponsored crimes against humanity and abuse.

In this day and age, it is hard to believe that ethnic cleansing still exists.

Right now, more than 1.2 million people have been uprooted in the Darfur region
of Sudan with over 150,000 refugees living - barely - along the border between
Sudan and Chad, their homes, possessions and livelihoods destroyed by
government-backed militias.

Amnesty International was the first human rights group to call the world's
attention to the horrific crisis. I call upon all people of compassion to help
by making an emergency donation to support our efforts.

You can speed your gift to the front lines by using our secure Web page:

http://takeaction.amnestyusa.org/ctt.asp?u=474200&l=9412

AMNESTY'S EMERGENCY CAMPAIGN

From the beginning, Amnesty has mobilized its credibility, worldwide diplomatic
contacts and unique moral force to focus attention on Darfur. Amnesty has been
on the ground in the region four times in the past year and a half - most
recently in Chad in May.

Here is what Amnesty has done and will be doing to alleviate the massive
suffering and restore law and order:

-- Securing UN Intervention: Amnesty has helped spur UN action. A Security
Council resolution is in the drafting stage calling on the Sudanese government
to reign in the militias. But we need to go farther. The UN must deploy
monitors in sufficient numbers to oversee the protection of refugees. Right now,
the Sudanese government is acting with impunity and blatant disregard for the
law.

-- Pressuring Secretary of State Powell: The US government considers Sudan a
state sponsor of terrorism and has sanctions in place. Amnesty has asked
Secretary Powell to demand an immediate cessation of government-sponsored
violence, and to continue pressing for UN action.

-- Activating the African Union: Through our long-standing relationships with
African leaders and diplomats, Amnesty has been able to help organize their
concern about the apparently deliberate slaughter and dislocation of the black
African population of Darfur.

-- Involving the Government of Chad: More than 150,000 refugees from the
violence are living in desperate conditions. Disease is rampant. Food and water
are in acute shortage. Our greatest near-term concern must be for the masses of
refugees in camps inside Chad or huddled desperately along the border.

THE SITUATION IS GETTING WORSE

Even worse, in the midst of their desperate struggle to survive, the refugees
continue to be attacked. This is particularly true for the women who must foray
from the mass of refugees to fetch water or food. Men lie in wait. Rape and
other forms of violence have become commonplace leaving these women with
horrific physical, emotional and psychological scars.

The disaster in Sudan is growing worse daily now that the rainy season has
begun, making roads impassable and increasing the risk of civilian deaths by
starvation and water-borne illnesses like malaria. Still, the Sudanese
government continues to impede and restrict access to the Darfur region by
humanitarian aid groups. This includes repeated requests by Amnesty for visas to
allow our monitors to document first-hand a tragedy that is ballooning into a
terrible humanitarian catastrophe.

Will you please help? I urge you to make an emergency donation right now:

http://takeaction.amnestyusa.org/ctt.asp?u=474200&l=9412

With your immediate help and continued participation, Amnesty will be better
able to sustain what may be a long struggle in Sudan. I will report to you from
time to time on our progress in halting and reversing this heartbreaking chain
of events.

With much gratitude and respect,

Sincerely yours,

William F. Schulz
Executive Director

P.S. Donating online cuts our overhead and helps speed your generous donation
to the front lines of the battle for global human rights.
 
Mar 18, 2003
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HERESY said:
What's up with america and sudan? They have no oil or minerals? They can't be "liberated"???????????????????
Tell me if I understand this correctly. You don't pay your taxes but you can question this country and whether or not it will use taxpayers money to enter a country and liberate it?
 
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Tadou...Bush has declared USA the great liberator. Bush has made it well known that US military might is *supposedly* out to stop terrorism, genocide, injustice, and promote the ideals of freedom.

What is going on in Sudan is horrific. People are living in dust-covered shanty tents in heat of up to 110 degrees sometimes, living on bread and water, and they prefer it to living in Sudan. We *may* go to Sudan and help the people out. In either case, this continues to be the most eggregious, stark example of terrorism, murder, and injustice in the world today. Inaction will cost and still is costing thousands of lives. If Bush was a real crusader for peace, justice, freedom, and anti-terrorism, we would be in Sudan right now.

Other countries haven't gone there because other countries have made it known that it isn't their policy. The US has adopted that policy. We are the 800 pound gorilla, the world police, and the enforcer of values. The UN is looking into a peacekeeping force, and UN troops may be deployed there, but in the end, if we refuse to act in some way, it WILL be an act of hypocrisy.
 

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Nitro the Guru said:
Tell me if I understand this correctly. You don't pay your taxes but you can question this country and whether or not it will use taxpayers money to enter a country and liberate it?
ISN'T THAT WHAT THE ELITE AMERICANS DO? HEY IT ISN'T MY FAULT THAT I KNOW HOW TO LEGALLY CUT THE CORNERS AND KEEP MONEY IN MY POCKET. BESIDES I PAY TAXES ON NON FOOD ITEMS (DISH DROP, PLASTIC WRAP, ETC ETC ETC) SO THAT SHOULD COUNT.....UNLESS I WRITE IT OFF AS AN BUSINESS EXPENSE (GAS IS AN EXAMPLE). OH DID I ALMOST FORGET WHEN I SHELLED OUT LOOT WHEN I WORKED 9-5 JOBS? OH DID I FORGET I HAD TO PAY MONEY WHEN I FIRST STARTED OUT?!?!?!? SO NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ME CORRECTLY. EVEN IF I *DIDN'T* GIVE ONE CENT TO THIS COUNTRY I'M ***STILL*** ABLE TO VOICE MY OPINION/QUESTION. WHY? BECAUSE I CAN, REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU OR ANYONE ELSE FEELS ABOUT IT.


NOW TELL ME IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY. DO NON-AMERICAN MEMBERS OF NATO PAY TAXES TO AMERICA? DO THEY QUESTION AMERICA? ARE YOU IMPLYING THAT A PERSON PAYING TAXES HAS NO RIGHT TO VOICE AN OPINION?



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Tadou...Bush has declared USA the great liberator. Bush has made it well known that US military might is *supposedly* out to stop terrorism, genocide, injustice, and promote the ideals of freedom.

What is going on in Sudan is horrific. People are living in dust-covered shanty tents in heat of up to 110 degrees sometimes, living on bread and water, and they prefer it to living in Sudan. We *may* go to Sudan and help the people out. In either case, this continues to be the most eggregious, stark example of terrorism, murder, and injustice in the world today. Inaction will cost and still is costing thousands of lives. If Bush was a real crusader for peace, justice, freedom, and anti-terrorism, we would be in Sudan right now.

Other countries haven't gone there because other countries have made it known that it isn't their policy. The US has adopted that policy. We are the 800 pound gorilla, the world police, and the enforcer of values. The UN is looking into a peacekeeping force, and UN troops may be deployed there, but in the end, if we refuse to act in some way, it WILL be an act of hypocrisy.

So let me guess......Iraq was a mothafuckin PARADISE before we came in, but Sudan is in the shitter? Riiiight, friend.

This is nothing more than a trap. As SOON as we go it, things will change from "please do something!" to "noooo, dont do it like thaaaat!"



And whats with you and supporting unilateral action? There IS a U.N., ICJ, etc. to go through. You wanted beurocracy? You got it, friend. Now, you will sit back and wait.
 

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tadou said:
So let me guess......Iraq was a mothafuckin PARADISE before we came in, but Sudan is in the shitter? Riiiight, friend.

This is nothing more than a trap. As SOON as we go it, things will change from "please do something!" to "noooo, dont do it like thaaaat!"



And whats with you and supporting unilateral action? There IS a U.N., ICJ, etc. to go through. You wanted beurocracy? You got it, friend. Now, you will sit back and wait.

1. IRAQ WAS NOT A COUNTRY OF TURMOIL BEFORE AMERICA INVADED IT. THEY *MAY* HAVE HAD PROBLEMS BUT NOT TO THE EXTENT OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN SUDAN.


2. YOU SAY IT'S NOTHING MORE THAN A TRAP? WHAT ARE THE IRAQI PEOPLE SAYING NOW? IF THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER THEY GET NO HELP.


3.YOU MENTION THE U.N., ICJ ETC. DOES AMERICA LIVE BY U.N. RULE? OF COURSE NOT. SO WHY CAN'T AMERICA STEP OUT ON A LIMB AND HELP? THEY HELPED IRAQ RIGHT? THEY CHOSE TO "LIBERATE" IT DIDN'T THEY? RIIGHT.........





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So did fucking Israel...who has violated over 50. When are we going to invade? I'm sure you'll be on the frontline supporting the Israeli invasion right tadou?

More than 2 million people have died in 21 years of fighting between the Islamist government in the north of the country, and Christians and animists in the south.

The United Nations says up to 50,000 people have died in the past 2 years from illness, starvation or in ethnic violence between the local black population and Government-backed Arab militia.

The UN estimates 1 million people have been made homeless by the crisis.

And there is a push this second to put forth a resolution on the table.

In any case, your twofaced doublespeak is hilarious tadou.

"Who cares about the UN. Fuck the UN. Unilateralism is the policy we need."

"But Iraq violated UN resolutions."

"Israel violated more? Well, Israel, let's just not talk about Israel. Fuck the UN. Who needs the UN?"
 
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WHITE DEVIL said:
So did fucking Israel...who has violated over 50. When are we going to invade? I'm sure you'll be on the frontline supporting the Israeli invasion right tadou?

More than 2 million people have died in 21 years of fighting between the Islamist government in the north of the country, and Christians and animists in the south.

The United Nations says up to 50,000 people have died in the past 2 years from illness, starvation or in ethnic violence between the local black population and Government-backed Arab militia.

The UN estimates 1 million people have been made homeless by the crisis.

And there is a push this second to put forth a resolution on the table.

In any case, your twofaced doublespeak is hilarious tadou.

"Who cares about the UN. Fuck the UN. Unilateralism is the policy we need."

"But Iraq violated UN resolutions."

"Israel violated more? Well, Israel, let's just not talk about Israel. Fuck the UN. Who needs the UN?"


Israel is one of our best allies
 
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Our alliance with Israel is costing us dearly. If we used force to extricate Israelis from Plaestinian areas, 9/11 and this current state of prarnoid Americans could possibly have never happened.