Who's next for Miguel Cotto?
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I think Cotto KO's Williams. I think he can do what Margarito failed to do, which is work the body early and wear him down. Williams looked shaky as fuck towards the end of the fight.
vs. the rest of the competition:
KO's Cintron.
UD's Margarito.
KO's Hatton.
KO's de la hoya.
Cotto is the real deal. He's the 2nd best behind Mayweather at 147, imo.
vs. the rest of the competition:
KO's Cintron.
UD's Margarito.
KO's Hatton.
KO's de la hoya.
Cotto is the real deal. He's the 2nd best behind Mayweather at 147, imo.
peep this: from eastsideboxing.com
Arum Tries To Goad Mayweather Into A Cotto Fight
Mattew Hurley: As Miguel Cotto sat ringside for Floyd Mayweather’s dismantling of Ricky Hatton this past Saturday night, behind his familiar stone-faced glare the reigning WBA welterweight champion was hoping for a ‘Pretty Boy’ victory. Cotto, coming off a victory over Shane Mosley, is fast becoming one of the new superstars in the sport, but the one road to a mega pay day leads to Mayweather. Despite Floyd’s impressive showing, Cotto doesn’t think the pound-for-pound best in boxing will accept his challenge..
“If you ask Floyd to fight with me, he always has an excuse,” Cotto said after the fight. “(Either) I’m not attracting enough fans, (or) I don’t represent too much money. He’s not correct, though. He knows who Miguel Cotto is.”
Cotto’s remarks came on the heels of a diatribe from his promoter and Mayweather’s former promoter Bob Arum. Arum, who has an axe to grind with Mayweather, is never at a loss for negative spin when it comes to the ‘Pretty Boy’. Before the Hatton – Mayweather showdown Arum held court at the MGM Grand denouncing Floyd’s recent choice of opponents and his proclamation of being not only the best fighter of his day, but of all time. In between lecture points the promoter was quick to drop the name of his charge Miguel Cotto into the mix. After Mayweather defeated Hatton by 10th round knockout Arum held court again.
“If he thinks he has a chance to lose, he won’t take the fight,” Arum said, as quoted in the Los Angeles Times. “He’s afraid to lose, and that’s a horrible, horrible thing. Anyone who’s not realizing that’s what’s happening with Floyd is moronic.”
The ‘moronic’ standing of Floyd’s supporters notwithstanding, Arum does have a point. In Floyd’s last two bouts, in which he made more money than the fighter could possibly throw in ecstasy at a camera, he has taken on a past his prime, part time fighter in Oscar De La Hoya and a natural junior welterweight in Ricky Hatton. Floyd’s critics will also point out that his resume in the recent past is also littered with lesser opponents such as Arturo Gatti, Sharmba Mitchell and Carlos Baldomir. Where are the Antonio Margaritos, Miguel Cottos or Paul Williams, they ask?
Yet those very critics never seem to point that accusatory finger at the very fighters they assume have the best chance of beating Floyd. If Oscar was over the hill than how exactly do you describe Cotto’s last opponent Shane Mosely who is Oscar’s contemporary? And last I looked my final scorecard only had the WBA champion up by two points over ‘Sugar’ Shane. Margarito, whose fans have been clamoring for years that he was the most ducked welterweight in the division, lost his WBO championship to physical freak Paul Williams and is currently without a title belt. The only other well known name on his ledger since 2001 is current IBF champion Kermit Cintron whom he knocked out in the fifth round in 2005. Cintron looked ordinary to the point of fragile in his last bout against Jesse Feliciano in November. Meanwhile Williams, a talented boxer who is getting better with every fight, has not yet established his name to the point where a major attraction like Floyd will step down from the pedestal he stands upon now to fight him after performing on the grand stage against De La Hoya and Hatton. He is scheduled to defend his title on February 2nd against Carlos Quintana. Still all of these fighters are good, worthy challengers but only a match with Cotto could truly energize the boxing world to the fevered pitch of Mayweather’s last two bouts. Hence, Arum’s goading drumbeat for the fight. It would indeed be huge and would blow the roof off of Madison Square Garden.
But in the end all the cards are in Mayweather’s hands. He has yet again threatened retirement. “Just to be the face of boxing is a blessing,” he told the media at the post fight press conference. “But I have to walk away. I was once told never to let boxing retire you.”
Mayweather then smiled and added that if Golden Boy Promotions were to put a significant sum of cash on the table for a future fight it may be too much for him to ignore. He is “Money” Mayweather after all.
Arum Tries To Goad Mayweather Into A Cotto Fight
Mattew Hurley: As Miguel Cotto sat ringside for Floyd Mayweather’s dismantling of Ricky Hatton this past Saturday night, behind his familiar stone-faced glare the reigning WBA welterweight champion was hoping for a ‘Pretty Boy’ victory. Cotto, coming off a victory over Shane Mosley, is fast becoming one of the new superstars in the sport, but the one road to a mega pay day leads to Mayweather. Despite Floyd’s impressive showing, Cotto doesn’t think the pound-for-pound best in boxing will accept his challenge..
“If you ask Floyd to fight with me, he always has an excuse,” Cotto said after the fight. “(Either) I’m not attracting enough fans, (or) I don’t represent too much money. He’s not correct, though. He knows who Miguel Cotto is.”
Cotto’s remarks came on the heels of a diatribe from his promoter and Mayweather’s former promoter Bob Arum. Arum, who has an axe to grind with Mayweather, is never at a loss for negative spin when it comes to the ‘Pretty Boy’. Before the Hatton – Mayweather showdown Arum held court at the MGM Grand denouncing Floyd’s recent choice of opponents and his proclamation of being not only the best fighter of his day, but of all time. In between lecture points the promoter was quick to drop the name of his charge Miguel Cotto into the mix. After Mayweather defeated Hatton by 10th round knockout Arum held court again.
“If he thinks he has a chance to lose, he won’t take the fight,” Arum said, as quoted in the Los Angeles Times. “He’s afraid to lose, and that’s a horrible, horrible thing. Anyone who’s not realizing that’s what’s happening with Floyd is moronic.”
The ‘moronic’ standing of Floyd’s supporters notwithstanding, Arum does have a point. In Floyd’s last two bouts, in which he made more money than the fighter could possibly throw in ecstasy at a camera, he has taken on a past his prime, part time fighter in Oscar De La Hoya and a natural junior welterweight in Ricky Hatton. Floyd’s critics will also point out that his resume in the recent past is also littered with lesser opponents such as Arturo Gatti, Sharmba Mitchell and Carlos Baldomir. Where are the Antonio Margaritos, Miguel Cottos or Paul Williams, they ask?
Yet those very critics never seem to point that accusatory finger at the very fighters they assume have the best chance of beating Floyd. If Oscar was over the hill than how exactly do you describe Cotto’s last opponent Shane Mosely who is Oscar’s contemporary? And last I looked my final scorecard only had the WBA champion up by two points over ‘Sugar’ Shane. Margarito, whose fans have been clamoring for years that he was the most ducked welterweight in the division, lost his WBO championship to physical freak Paul Williams and is currently without a title belt. The only other well known name on his ledger since 2001 is current IBF champion Kermit Cintron whom he knocked out in the fifth round in 2005. Cintron looked ordinary to the point of fragile in his last bout against Jesse Feliciano in November. Meanwhile Williams, a talented boxer who is getting better with every fight, has not yet established his name to the point where a major attraction like Floyd will step down from the pedestal he stands upon now to fight him after performing on the grand stage against De La Hoya and Hatton. He is scheduled to defend his title on February 2nd against Carlos Quintana. Still all of these fighters are good, worthy challengers but only a match with Cotto could truly energize the boxing world to the fevered pitch of Mayweather’s last two bouts. Hence, Arum’s goading drumbeat for the fight. It would indeed be huge and would blow the roof off of Madison Square Garden.
But in the end all the cards are in Mayweather’s hands. He has yet again threatened retirement. “Just to be the face of boxing is a blessing,” he told the media at the post fight press conference. “But I have to walk away. I was once told never to let boxing retire you.”
Mayweather then smiled and added that if Golden Boy Promotions were to put a significant sum of cash on the table for a future fight it may be too much for him to ignore. He is “Money” Mayweather after all.
Also, Zab is barely Mayweather's best win and Cotto got Floyd's leftovers. Cotto's resume so far looks like shit compared to Floyd's and there's nothing to suggest that this won't always be the case. Mayweather has beaten at least 12 former and current champions, won 3 lineal titles, 6 belts in 5 different weight classes and has done all of this while remaining undefeated for 11 years.
Mayweather doesn't need Cotto at all, but Cotto surely needs him. Mayweather has beaten opponent's better and perceived as more of a threat than Cotto in an undefeated Diego Corrales, a prime Jose Luis Castillo, and slightly removed from his prime, but bigger and game Oscar De La Hoya. Cotto hasn't even won a lineal title yet. Mayweather did that in his 18th fight against G. Hernandez, who was undefeated at Super-feather weight and had taken the title previously from the great Azumah Nelson. Floyd not only owns Cotto's division but is the p4p champion. Cotto is a desperate contender looking to make a name with one big fight after another. Much respect to Cotto, who is a very young tough fighter, but two things we must recognize:
1) Arum has been protecting him since he was at 140 where they had a chance to fight Floyd in 2005 after he beat Gatti, but Arum wanted to "build the promotion". After Mayweather starts talking about retirement (which he's been talking about since he beat Balomir) and became a pay per view draw, they want to leech off of his status and draw power.
2) Mayweather would make Cotto look pedestrian. He is the better fighter and it is that superficially (seemingly) simple. Anyone who takes shots at Floyd at the expense of Miguel Cotto is a fool. You CANNOT insult Mayweather and big up Cotto at the same time, it is blasphemous. Promoters and writers talk all they want to hype a fight that they want to see, but objectively speaking, Cotto is not in Mayweather's league.
Mayweather doesn't need Cotto at all, but Cotto surely needs him. Mayweather has beaten opponent's better and perceived as more of a threat than Cotto in an undefeated Diego Corrales, a prime Jose Luis Castillo, and slightly removed from his prime, but bigger and game Oscar De La Hoya. Cotto hasn't even won a lineal title yet. Mayweather did that in his 18th fight against G. Hernandez, who was undefeated at Super-feather weight and had taken the title previously from the great Azumah Nelson. Floyd not only owns Cotto's division but is the p4p champion. Cotto is a desperate contender looking to make a name with one big fight after another. Much respect to Cotto, who is a very young tough fighter, but two things we must recognize:
1) Arum has been protecting him since he was at 140 where they had a chance to fight Floyd in 2005 after he beat Gatti, but Arum wanted to "build the promotion". After Mayweather starts talking about retirement (which he's been talking about since he beat Balomir) and became a pay per view draw, they want to leech off of his status and draw power.
2) Mayweather would make Cotto look pedestrian. He is the better fighter and it is that superficially (seemingly) simple. Anyone who takes shots at Floyd at the expense of Miguel Cotto is a fool. You CANNOT insult Mayweather and big up Cotto at the same time, it is blasphemous. Promoters and writers talk all they want to hype a fight that they want to see, but objectively speaking, Cotto is not in Mayweather's league.
According to your argument Floyd got Kostya Tzu's leftovers in Zab Judah, and Mosley and Hopkin's leftovers in De La Hoya.
Calling Cotto a desperate Contender is blasphemous or just hatred.The fact is In a 40 foot ring Mayweather makes everyone look pedestrian, and Cotto did a pretty good Floyd impression in the last 4 rounds of his last fight, which he got booed for.
Cotto is an exciting fighter, he has power in both hands, and like 2-0-sixx says Cotto beats everyone at 147 in highly entertaining fights. He'll clean out the division for Floyd, but still won't be in Mayweather's league?
Who is in Mayweather's league? should Mayweather got to the next planet to look for his next fight.
Calling Cotto a desperate Contender is blasphemous or just hatred.The fact is In a 40 foot ring Mayweather makes everyone look pedestrian, and Cotto did a pretty good Floyd impression in the last 4 rounds of his last fight, which he got booed for.
Cotto is an exciting fighter, he has power in both hands, and like 2-0-sixx says Cotto beats everyone at 147 in highly entertaining fights. He'll clean out the division for Floyd, but still won't be in Mayweather's league?
Who is in Mayweather's league? should Mayweather got to the next planet to look for his next fight.
lol@looking for fighters on Jupiter!
I think it's clear Cotto is 2nd best at 147. His resume, his KO percentage, and the fact that he remains undefeated all point to that. I don't want to hear anything about Cotto's resume not being as good as Floyd's, because that's not the argument at all, although Cotto has an excellent resume (at 147, it is the 2nd best resume) and lets not forget he's still a young fighter:
Shane Mosley (44-4)
Zab Judah (34-4)
Oktay Urkal (38-3)
Carlos Quintana (23-0)
Paul Malignaggi (21-0)
Gianluca Branco (36-1)
Ricardo Torres (28-0)
Now, with that being said, I'm not going to make any statements like Cotto can beat Floyd. I don't think that's the case, however I think Cotto would be Floyd's biggest challenge to date and Cotto would have a better shot than probably anyone else, other than maybe Paul Williams (because of his size, not skill).
As a fan of boxing, I want the two best fighters in the most talented division (imo) to get in the ring!!
Other than Cotto, who else should Floyd fight?
Mosley? No, I'd rather see Cotto since he beat Shane already.
Paul Williams? Not yet, he has a lot to prove.
Margarito? No.
Kermit Cintron? I'd like to see this fight but Cotto deserves it more
I think it's clear Cotto is 2nd best at 147. His resume, his KO percentage, and the fact that he remains undefeated all point to that. I don't want to hear anything about Cotto's resume not being as good as Floyd's, because that's not the argument at all, although Cotto has an excellent resume (at 147, it is the 2nd best resume) and lets not forget he's still a young fighter:
Shane Mosley (44-4)
Zab Judah (34-4)
Oktay Urkal (38-3)
Carlos Quintana (23-0)
Paul Malignaggi (21-0)
Gianluca Branco (36-1)
Ricardo Torres (28-0)
Now, with that being said, I'm not going to make any statements like Cotto can beat Floyd. I don't think that's the case, however I think Cotto would be Floyd's biggest challenge to date and Cotto would have a better shot than probably anyone else, other than maybe Paul Williams (because of his size, not skill).
As a fan of boxing, I want the two best fighters in the most talented division (imo) to get in the ring!!
Other than Cotto, who else should Floyd fight?
Mosley? No, I'd rather see Cotto since he beat Shane already.
Paul Williams? Not yet, he has a lot to prove.
Margarito? No.
Kermit Cintron? I'd like to see this fight but Cotto deserves it more
Me too. I'd love to see Cotto fight Margarito though, if Top Rank could just put up the right amount of Money up.
I realize though that Cotto is doing the same shit to Paul Williams that Floyd is doing to Cotto, and Williams is most likely doing the same shit to up and coming Andre Berto, it's a lot of ducking going on based on the 'more risk than reward' idea.
I realize though that Cotto is doing the same shit to Paul Williams that Floyd is doing to Cotto, and Williams is most likely doing the same shit to up and coming Andre Berto, it's a lot of ducking going on based on the 'more risk than reward' idea.