Who justifies what information is "real"?

[I. Cold]

I'm sitting here reading all these threads. And it's basically divided in two: liberal vs conservative or you can also divide it by (pretty much the same thing): anti-war vs pro-war.

The anti-war people claim to have "real" facts about how the US government is corrupt, how the US staged the 9-11 attacks, how the war is unjust, how Iraq doesn't have weapons of mass destruction, etc, etc... The anti-war people criticize the pro-war people by calling them "sheep" and call them brainwashed. Why? Because they listen to the US media? becaue the US media is biased?

But where are the anti-war people getting their info from? internet sites (liberal ones)? al jazeera? foreign media stations?

I mean, look what's happening. Each one of you think he/she is right and COMPLETELY dismisses any fact that may contradict his belief. And that goes both ways.

But do any of you live in Iraq and have access to Sadaam's war plans and weapon building? Do any of you sleep under George Bush's bed and listen in on meetings he has with his cabinet?

None of you actually KNOW anything about this. You're just assuming because you think YOUR source of information is the correct one. I mean seriously, any asshole can go to google.com, and type in "United Stats Iraq War Unjust" or some shit and copy and paste the shit you see to this board. My 2 yr old niece can do that.

So exactly what makes YOUR source of information the most credible one? Are internet sites that are built by ANYONE more credible than BBC? Is Al-Jazeera more credible from CNN?

The reason I laugh at all these stupid myths about the government being behind 9/11 and all that bullshit is because it's ridiculous. OF COURSE anything is possible, but I stand firmly in faith of Occam's Razor. I'm open-minded. I DO think there are true conspiracies (kennedy's assassination, UFO coverups like Roswell, the CIA tapping civilians' phones), but some of them are down right absurd.

Occam's Razor. That's all you need to know.

 

[thapro]

So do you think that the information that you are getting from the U.S. government or one of its propaganda outlets (CNN, MSNBC, FOX) is also "real" information?

 

[I. Cold]

^^ I never said I did..

Whether I do or not is completely irrelevant. I meant for this post to be completely unbiased, so I didn't include my viewpoint..

 

[HERESY]

I'm sitting here reading all these threads. And it's basically divided in two: liberal vs conservative or you can also divide it by (pretty much the same thing): anti-war vs pro-war.

ok.

The anti-war people claim to have "real" facts about how the US government is corrupt, how the US staged the 9-11 attacks, how the war is unjust, how Iraq doesn't have weapons of mass destruction, etc, etc...

ok. the pro war people claim to have facts about how the iraqi government is corrupt, how bin laden staged the 9-11 attacks, how the war is justified and how iraq does have weapons of mass destruction etc etc etc....

The anti-war people criticize the pro-war people by calling them "sheep" and call them brainwashed.

and pro war people call anti war people hippies and pussies....if you are concerned about name calling why dont you do the following.

1.PLACE A LIMIT ON *YOUR* SLANDERING AND NAME CALLING.
2.PAY ATTENTION TO *WHO* STARTED ALL THE BASHING.

Why? Because they listen to the US media? becaue the US media is biased?

thats part of it. the SAME people who hold ownership of the media hold MEMBERSHIP with the TLC,CFR and other interest groups with a globalistic agenda.

But where are the anti-war people getting their info from? internet sites (liberal ones)? al jazeera? foreign media stations?

i dont know about anyone else but i can tell you EXACTLY where i get my info from. i get my info from the SAME source that told me america would be attacked 7 days BEFORE it even happened. the SAME source that said from that attack would come a war and from that war ww3. the SAME source that told me october would be THE month for INTENSE blood shed and carnage.

I mean, look what's happening. Each one of you think he/she is right and COMPLETELY dismisses any fact that may contradict his belief. And that goes both ways.

1. i DONT dismiss it. see thats the problem. dont label everyone in a group. when someone on this site types something i hold THEM accountable. just like i hold MYSELF accountable. *if* you say something that doesnt seem right or is down right absurd im going to call you on it. 90% of the time when i call the person on it they shape shift it,ignore it or dance around it.....if i say something that doesnt seem right to you call me on it. however....... :classic: make SURE that you have done your homework BEFORE you call me on it......

But do any of you live in Iraq and have access to Sadaam's war plans and weapon building? Do any of you sleep under George Bush's bed and listen in on meetings he has with his cabinet?

nope. what i do see is destruction at the hands of the cfr,tlc and world conservation bank.

None of you actually KNOW anything about this. You're just assuming because you think YOUR source of information is the correct one.

have you applied this to yourself?

I mean seriously, any asshole can go to google.com, and type in "United Stats Iraq War Unjust" or some shit and copy and paste the shit you see to this board. My 2 yr old niece can do that.

sort of like mcleanhatches posts/threads. sort of like that graph you posted.

So exactly what makes YOUR source of information the most credible one? Are internet sites that are built by ANYONE more credible than BBC? Is Al-Jazeera more credible from CNN?

i get the scoops before the dirt even goes down. lmao.

The reason I laugh at all these stupid myths about the government being behind 9/11 and all that bullshit is because it's ridiculous.

people laughed at me 7 days before the attacks. when i told them america would be attacked etc etc etc. laugh now cry later.also have you read the "this is your war on terrorism part 2" thread?????? i laugh when people say that 19 hijackers took planes and slammed them into buildings........LMAO!!!!

OF COURSE anything is possible, but I stand firmly in faith of Occam's Razor.

and i stand firmly in faith of HA-SHEM.

I DO think there are true conspiracies (kennedy's assassination, UFO coverups like Roswell, the CIA tapping civilians' phones), but some of them are down right absurd.

i dont believe in little green men. sorry. you forgot pearl harbor........


see....now here is a classic example of why your views get shot to hell. pay attention.

I meant for this post to be completely unbiased, so I didn't include my viewpoint..

is the following unbiased?

The reason I laugh at all these stupid myths about the government being behind 9/11 and all that bullshit is because it's ridiculous.

your thread is NOT unbiased. the thread IS your view point heres how (one of many examples):

None of you actually KNOW anything about this. You're just assuming because you think YOUR source of information is the correct one. I mean seriously, any asshole can go to google.com, and type in "United Stats Iraq War Unjust" or some shit and copy and paste the shit you see to this board. My 2 yr old niece can do that.

YOU dont know WHO does WHAT or WHO knows WHO. you DONT know what every single person on this web site does.are you under every bed? of course not. so thats YOUR view point. where you get YOUR material from IS relevent. why? because YOU are questioning the opposition (anti war yada yada yada). in return people have the
right to question YOU.


have a nice one. as you can see i kept this post insult free. no arguements no fights no slander.......

:H:

ps its getting late. excuse any typos.

 

[phil]

not only that but you completely sidestepped his question as well heresy

 

[phil]

what makes your source right?

i mean besides the whole "god talks to me" thing

 

[Droopy Eye]

About Al-Jazeera :

Yesterday i watched a hour on Al-Jazeera, and this channel is probably one of the most unbiased news channels i have seen (that's not saying much though).
It was not filled with anti-american propaganda, but brought news from that region and broadcasted both sides views
They had a story about a large meeting with a lot of christian and muslim leaders who wanted to learn from eachother and come together in peace.

Also remember that this is a channel that has been throwed out from Iraq by the Iraqi government and bombed by the "land of the free".

 

[I. Cold]

hersey...once again, you're answering questions with questions.

ok. ok. the pro war people claim to have facts about how the iraqi government is corrupt, how bin laden staged the 9-11 attacks, how the war is justified and how iraq does have weapons of mass destruction etc etc etc.... and pro war people call anti war people hippies and pussies....if you are concerned about name calling why dont you do the following.

Me calling protesters hippies is irrelevant to this topic.

1.PLACE A LIMIT ON *YOUR* SLANDERING AND NAME CALLING.
2.PAY ATTENTION TO *WHO* STARTED ALL THE BASHING.

Once again...irrelevant.

thats part of it. the SAME people who hold ownership of the media hold MEMBERSHIP with the TLC,CFR and other interest groups with a globalistic agenda.

The government plays a role in the american media, but to assume that they control it is down right ridiculous. I can't count the number of times I've seen the media bash the government or the president. Back in the day, the media wasn't allowed to talk bad about the government or else they'd dissapear. It aint like that anymore. The government does NOT controll the media.

i dont know about anyone else but i can tell you EXACTLY where i get my info from. i get my info from the SAME source that told me america would be attacked 7 days BEFORE it even happened. the SAME source that said from that attack would come a war and from that war ww3. the SAME source that told me october would be THE month for INTENSE blood shed and carnage.

And that source would be....? And you know this source is legit because....? (bare in mind I don't believe you for a second when you say you knew about 9/11 before it happened). I can sit here too and say I have "inside information" and that I know when shit's gonna go down before it does. but I can be talking out my ass just as easily as anyone else can.

1. i DONT dismiss it. see thats the problem. dont label everyone in a group. when someone on this site types something i hold THEM accountable. just like i hold MYSELF accountable. *if* you say something that doesnt seem right or is down right absurd im going to call you on it. 90% of the time when i call the person on it they shape shift it,ignore it or dance around it.....if i say something that doesnt seem right to you call me on it. however....... :classic: make SURE that you have done your homework BEFORE you call me on it......

Actually, you DO dismiss any facts or opinions that do not coincide with yours. You do it all the time. Someone says something like "the US found womd in Iraq" and you'll come back and say "No they didn't. they media is lying. blah blah blah".

have you applied this to yourself?

As a matter of fact, I have. I will sit and watch CNN and think to myself how bias it is. Then I'll think to myself "what isn't bias?" BBC? They're pretty unbiased. But I don't have a BBC channel on my television, I have CNN. But I'm smart enough to be able to sort through the BS news and the real facts. For instance, the US found chemical weapons = fact. The US troops are liberating the Iraqi people = biased opinion.

sort of like mcleanhatches posts/threads. sort of like that graph you posted.

yes..like the same thing YOU do and the same thing BLIGHT does and the same thing all of the anti-war people do. And that graph was totally legit. I didn't find it at google; it was pointed out to my by one of my professors.

i get the scoops before the dirt even goes down. lmao. people laughed at me 7 days before the attacks. when i told them america would be attacked etc etc etc. laugh now cry later.also have you read the "this is your war on terrorism part 2" thread?????? i laugh when people say that 19 hijackers took planes and slammed them into buildings........LMAO!!!! and i stand firmly in faith of HA-SHEM. i dont believe in little green men. sorry. you forgot pearl harbor........

So Pearl Harbor wasn't attacked by the Japanese? You're gonna sit there and tell me all this bullshit about the inconceivable things the the US government does, but the chance of extraterristrials is out of the questions? I can back up the Roswell incident with a LOT more info than you can with one of your BS theories.

ha-shem..what is that judaism? Occam's Razor is not a religion; it's a system which to base the answers to questions on.

YOU dont know WHO does WHAT or WHO knows WHO. you DONT know what every single person on this web site does.are you under every bed? of course not. so thats YOUR view point. where you get YOUR material from IS relevent. why? because YOU are questioning the opposition (anti war yada yada yada). in return people have the right to question YOU.

Ok, it's pretty fucking obvious when you guys post articles from websites. When I see at the top of the page "John Doe reporting from Blah Blah Liberal Media 2003".

And this thread WAS unbiased. I wasn't just calling out anti-war people. I used examples with what the anti-war people have done, but the topic was meant for everyone who thinks their shit don't stink and their facts are legit.

And what are they gonna question me on? The fact that I think that they don't know everything?

 

[HERESY]

@phil you said:

not only that but you completely sidestepped his question as well heresy

my sources are proved VALID. regardless if i get the scoop from a stream of water, a flying taco or a rats anus. it happens. it comes to past. i DID answer his question.

@logic:

hersey...once again, you're answering questions with questions.

?!?! logic are YOU paying attention to what YOU type and what is being answered? logic here are the questions you asked:

Why? Because they listen to the US media? becaue the US media is biased?

here is my response:

thats part of it. the SAME people who hold ownership of the media hold MEMBERSHIP with the TLC,CFR and other interest groups with a globalistic agenda.

DO YOU SEE A QUESTION MARK OR QUESTION IN MY RESPONSE? NO YOU DONT. SO HOW IS *YOUR* ALLEGATION THAT I AM ANSWERING QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONS TRUE? ITS NOT. ITS FALSE. STOP MAKING CLAIMS WITH NO VALIDITY.

HERES ANOTHER ONE:

But where are the anti-war people getting their info from? internet sites (liberal ones)? al jazeera? foreign media stations?

HERE IS MY REPLY:

i dont know about anyone else but i can tell you EXACTLY where i get my info from. i get my info from the SAME source that told me america would be attacked 7 days BEFORE it even happened. the SAME source that said from that attack would come a war and from that war ww3. the SAME source that told me october would be THE month for INTENSE blood shed and carnage.

DO YOU SEE A QUESTION MARK OR QUESTION IN MY RESPONSE? NO YOU DONT. SO HOW IS *YOUR* ALLEGATION THAT I AM ANSWERING QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONS TRUE? ITS NOT. ITS FALSE. STOP MAKING CLAIMS WITH NO VALIDITY.

HERES ANOTHER ONE:

But do any of you live in Iraq and have access to Sadaam's war plans and weapon building? Do any of you sleep under George Bush's bed and listen in on meetings he has with his cabinet?

HERE IS MY ANSWER:

nope. what i do see is destruction at the hands of the cfr,tlc and world conservation bank.

DO YOU SEE A QUESTION MARK OR QUESTION IN MY RESPONSE? NO YOU DONT. SO HOW IS *YOUR* ALLEGATION THAT I AM ANSWERING QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONS TRUE? ITS NOT. ITS FALSE. STOP MAKING CLAIMS WITH NO VALIDITY.

HERES ANOTHER ONE:

So exactly what makes YOUR source of information the most credible one? Are internet sites that are built by ANYONE more credible than BBC? Is Al-Jazeera more credible from CNN?

HERE IS MY RESPONSE:

i get the scoops before the dirt even goes down. lmao.

DO YOU SEE A QUESTION MARK OR QUESTION IN MY RESPONSE? NO YOU DONT. SO HOW IS *YOUR* ALLEGATION THAT I AM ANSWERING QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONS TRUE? ITS NOT. ITS FALSE. STOP MAKING CLAIMS WITH NO VALIDITY.

SO NOW I HAVE JUST SHOWN YOUR STATEMENT THAT I ANSWERED QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONS TO BE 100% FALSE.

NOW LETS MOVE ON.

Me calling protesters hippies is irrelevant to this topic.

ITS RELEVENT TO THE TOPIC BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED WHAT ANTI WAR PEOPLE CALL PRO WAR PEOPLE. AFTER THAT YOU QUESTIONED *WHY*...IF YOUR THREAD IS UNBIASED YOU WOULD HAVE INCLUDED *BOTH* SIDES AND WHAT ***BOTH*** PARTIES DO. INSTEAD YOU LIST WHAT THE OPPOSITION DOES.

EITHER ITS RELEVENT OR YOUR THREAD IS BIASED. WHICH ONE IS IT BECAUSE YOU CANT POINT THE FINGER AT SOMEONE ELSE AND SAY YOUR UNBIASED.

Once again...irrelevant.

SEE THE ABOVE.

The government plays a role in the american media, but to assume that they control it is down right ridiculous. I can't count the number of times I've seen the media bash the government or the president. Back in the day, the media wasn't allowed to talk bad about the government or else they'd dissapear. It aint like that anymore. The government does NOT controll the media.

THE MAJORITY (AND I DO MEAN MAJORITY) OF MAJOR MEDIA OWNERS ARE MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNMENT,COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS OR TRILATERAL COMMISION. I MADE AN ENTIRE THREAD DEDICATED TO THIS SUBJECT. I LISTED NAMES,COMPANIES OWNED,MEMBERSHIP AFFILIATION,CONTACT INFO ETC ETC ETC. CHECK THE PAST ARCHIVES (YOUR GONNA HAVE TO DIG DEEP FOR IT). YOU ARE 100% INCORRECT.

And that source would be....? And you know this source is legit because....? (bare in mind I don't believe you for a second when you say you knew about 9/11 before it happened). I can sit here too and say I have "inside information" and that I know when shit's gonna go down before it does. but I can be talking out my ass just as easily as anyone else can.

THE SOURCE IS HA-SHEM. THE SOURCE IS LEGIT BECAUSE AFTER IM TOLD....THE ACTION TAKES PLACE. NOT ONLY THAT BUT I CAN SEE THE EFFECTS...(BARE IN MIND THAT I DONT CARE IF YOU BELIEVE ME OR NOT. PEOPLE DIDNT BELIEVE JESUS WAS THE MESSIAH. YOUR BELIEF IN WHAT I SAY MEANS NOTHING TO ME. ) NOW PONDER THIS. WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF YOU TALKING OUT YOUR ASS AND IT ACTUALLY HAPPENING? IM GIVING YOU A TIME FRAME.

Actually, you DO dismiss any facts or opinions that do not coincide with yours. You do it all the time. Someone says something like "the US found womd in Iraq" and you'll come back and say "No they didn't. they media is lying. blah blah blah".

THIS IS A FALSE STATEMENT AND HAS NOT BEEN VALIDATED, NOR WILL IT EVER BE VALIDATED.

I HAVE ASKED ABOUT WMD BEING FOUND. SO FAR ALL THE PRO WAR PEOPLE HAVE **FAILED** TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. THEY SAY WMD HAVE BEEN FOUND OR THAT IRAQ HAS THEM. ALL I ASK IS WHO FOUND THEM,WHERE WERE THEY FOUND,WHO REPORTED THE FINDING TO THE UN AND WHAT WERE THE WEAPONS MADE OF.......I NEVER GET AN ANSWER. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A STATEMENT BACK IT UP. PHIL AND MCLEANHATCH STATED THAT RESOLUTION 1441 IMPLIES THE USE OF FORCE. I HAD TO SHOW PHIL AND MCLEANHATCH THAT IT DOESNT. IF YOU TELL ME SOMETHING IM GOING TO LOOK INTO IT. ESPECIALLY IF YOU TAKE A STANCE THATS OPPOSITE OF MINE. IM **NOT** GOING TO SAY ITS WRONG BLAH BLAH BLAH. WHAT I WILL DO IS PRESENT MY EVIDENCE AND *EXPLAIN* WHY YOUR EVIDENCE IS ILLOGICAL AND NOT BASED ON FACT. I DISMISS SOMETHIN AFTER I HAVE LOOKED INTO IT. *NOT* BEFORE. WHY? BECAUSE THE PERSON MAY BE RIGHT.

As a matter of fact, I have. I will sit and watch CNN and think to myself how bias it is. Then I'll think to myself "what isn't bias?" BBC? They're pretty unbiased. But I don't have a BBC channel on my television, I have CNN. But I'm smart enough to be able to sort through the BS news and the real facts. For instance, the US found chemical weapons = fact. The US troops are liberating the Iraqi people = biased opinion.

HOW DO YOU KNOW ITS A FACT? HOW DO YOU KNOW IT ISNT PAINT? HOW DO YOU KNOW IT WASNT PLANTED? WERE YOU PRESENT? OR DO YOU ACCEPT THE VIEWS OF THOSE WHO ENDORSE THE WAR?

yes..like the same thing YOU do and the same thing BLIGHT does and the same thing all of the anti-war people do. And that graph was totally legit. I didn't find it at google; it was pointed out to my by one of my professors.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT EVERY ANSWER I GET IS FROM GOOGLE OR THE NET? IF SO I WILL OFFICIALLY LAUGH AT YOU. LMAO! THAT GRAPH IS A LIE AND YOU KNOW IT. SO BECAUSE YOUR PROFESSOR POINTED IT OUT THAT MEANS ITS ACCURATE? I CITED MANY PROFESSORS,LAWYERS,EX OFFICIALS ETC ETC ETC TO BACK MY CLAIMS....AND YOU IMPLY THAT BECAUSE YOUR PRO POINTED IT OUT THAT ITS CORRECT? LMAO!

So Pearl Harbor wasn't attacked by the Japanese?

I HAVE NOT IMPLIED THIS. YES IT WAS ATTACKED BY JAPANESE.

You're gonna sit there and tell me all this bullshit about the inconceivable things the the US government does, but the chance of extraterristrials is out of the questions? I can back up the Roswell incident with a LOT more info than you can with one of your BS theories.

LMAO! WHY ARE YOU MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS AND CALLING MY THEORIES BS? ARENT YOU SUPPOSED TO BE UNBIASED? ISNT THIS SUPPOSED TO BE AN UNBIASED THREAD? I DONT BELIEVE IN LITTLE GREEN MEN. I BELIEVE THAT WATCHERS,NEPHILLIM,DEMONS,DEVILS,
SERAPHES,THRONES AND PRINCES EXIST. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH HITLER,HIS "ALIEN ENCOUNTERS",OCCULT DEALINGS AND HIS SEARCH FOR A CERTAIN WEAPON?

ha-shem..what is that judaism?

ARE YOU ASKING DOES HASHEM *MEAN* JUDAISM OR IS HASHEM TAKEN FROM JUDAISM? PLEASE CLARIFY.

Occam's Razor is not a religion; it's a system which to base the answers to questions on.

1.HAS ANYONE IMPLIED THAT IT WAS A RELIGION? 2.HAVE I STATED THAT I *DIDNT* KNOW WHAT IT IS OR WHERE IT COMES FROM? SIMPLIST EXPLANATION...2 THINGS....SUPERFLOUS TO ASSUME A THIRD...YADA YADA YADA..

LETS DISCUSS HEGEL.

Ok, it's pretty fucking obvious when you guys post articles from websites. When I see at the top of the page "John Doe reporting from Blah Blah Liberal Media 2003".

IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THE ONLY THING WE DO IS POST ARTICLES FORM WEB SITES FROM THE ENDS OF THE INTERNET YOU *DESERVE* THE FIRST PART OF YOUR NAME. I PRAY THATS NOT THE CASE, I ACTUALLY TOOK YOU TO BE (AT ONE TIME) AN INTELLIGENT BEING.

HERE IS WHERE I KILL YOUR STATEMENTS ONCE AGAIN:

And this thread WAS unbiased.

IF THE THREAD IS UNBIASED HOW CAN THE FOLLOWING BE TRUE?

I used examples with what the anti-war people have done

HOW IS THIS UNBIASED? HOW ARE YOU UNBIASED WHEN YOU SAY THE FOLLOWING:

The anti-war people claim to have "real" facts

The anti-war people criticize the pro-war people

But where are the anti-war people getting their info from?

IF YOU AND THIS THREAD ARE UNBIASED WHY HAVENT YOU MADE ONE STATEMENT IN REGARDS TO PRO WAR PEOPLE AND WHAT THEY CONSIDER?

IF THE FOLLOWING IS DIRECTED AT ALL PARTIES IT APPLIES TO *YOU* ALSO:

None of you actually KNOW anything about this. You're just assuming because you think YOUR source of information is the correct one.

DOES THIS APPLY TO YOU ALSO?


THIS IS A VERY BIASED THREAD.

:h:

 

[HERESY]

@phil you said:

not only that but you completely sidestepped his question as well heresy

my sources are proved VALID. regardless if i get the scoop from a stream of water, a flying taco or a rats anus. it happens. it comes to past. i DID answer his question.

@logic:

hersey...once again, you're answering questions with questions.

?!?! logic are YOU paying attention to what YOU type and what is being answered? logic here are the questions you asked:

Why? Because they listen to the US media? becaue the US media is biased?

here is my response:

thats part of it. the SAME people who hold ownership of the media hold MEMBERSHIP with the TLC,CFR and other interest groups with a globalistic agenda.

DO YOU SEE A QUESTION MARK OR QUESTION IN MY RESPONSE? NO YOU DONT. SO HOW IS *YOUR* ALLEGATION THAT I AM ANSWERING QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONS TRUE? ITS NOT. ITS FALSE. STOP MAKING CLAIMS WITH NO VALIDITY.

HERES ANOTHER ONE:

But where are the anti-war people getting their info from? internet sites (liberal ones)? al jazeera? foreign media stations?

HERE IS MY REPLY:

i dont know about anyone else but i can tell you EXACTLY where i get my info from. i get my info from the SAME source that told me america would be attacked 7 days BEFORE it even happened. the SAME source that said from that attack would come a war and from that war ww3. the SAME source that told me october would be THE month for INTENSE blood shed and carnage.

DO YOU SEE A QUESTION MARK OR QUESTION IN MY RESPONSE? NO YOU DONT. SO HOW IS *YOUR* ALLEGATION THAT I AM ANSWERING QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONS TRUE? ITS NOT. ITS FALSE. STOP MAKING CLAIMS WITH NO VALIDITY.

HERES ANOTHER ONE:

But do any of you live in Iraq and have access to Sadaam's war plans and weapon building? Do any of you sleep under George Bush's bed and listen in on meetings he has with his cabinet?

HERE IS MY ANSWER:

nope. what i do see is destruction at the hands of the cfr,tlc and world conservation bank.

DO YOU SEE A QUESTION MARK OR QUESTION IN MY RESPONSE? NO YOU DONT. SO HOW IS *YOUR* ALLEGATION THAT I AM ANSWERING QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONS TRUE? ITS NOT. ITS FALSE. STOP MAKING CLAIMS WITH NO VALIDITY.

HERES ANOTHER ONE:

So exactly what makes YOUR source of information the most credible one? Are internet sites that are built by ANYONE more credible than BBC? Is Al-Jazeera more credible from CNN?

HERE IS MY RESPONSE:

i get the scoops before the dirt even goes down. lmao.

DO YOU SEE A QUESTION MARK OR QUESTION IN MY RESPONSE? NO YOU DONT. SO HOW IS *YOUR* ALLEGATION THAT I AM ANSWERING QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONS TRUE? ITS NOT. ITS FALSE. STOP MAKING CLAIMS WITH NO VALIDITY.

SO NOW I HAVE JUST SHOWN YOUR STATEMENT THAT I ANSWERED QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONS TO BE 100% FALSE.

NOW LETS MOVE ON.

Me calling protesters hippies is irrelevant to this topic.

ITS RELEVENT TO THE TOPIC BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED WHAT ANTI WAR PEOPLE CALL PRO WAR PEOPLE. AFTER THAT YOU QUESTIONED *WHY*...IF YOUR THREAD IS UNBIASED YOU WOULD HAVE INCLUDED *BOTH* SIDES AND WHAT ***BOTH*** PARTIES DO. INSTEAD YOU LIST WHAT THE OPPOSITION DOES.

EITHER ITS RELEVENT OR YOUR THREAD IS BIASED. WHICH ONE IS IT BECAUSE YOU CANT POINT THE FINGER AT SOMEONE ELSE AND SAY YOUR UNBIASED.

Once again...irrelevant.

SEE THE ABOVE.

The government plays a role in the american media, but to assume that they control it is down right ridiculous. I can't count the number of times I've seen the media bash the government or the president. Back in the day, the media wasn't allowed to talk bad about the government or else they'd dissapear. It aint like that anymore. The government does NOT controll the media.

THE MAJORITY (AND I DO MEAN MAJORITY) OF MAJOR MEDIA OWNERS ARE MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNMENT,COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS OR TRILATERAL COMMISION. I MADE AN ENTIRE THREAD DEDICATED TO THIS SUBJECT. I LISTED NAMES,COMPANIES OWNED,MEMBERSHIP AFFILIATION,CONTACT INFO ETC ETC ETC. CHECK THE PAST ARCHIVES (YOUR GONNA HAVE TO DIG DEEP FOR IT). YOU ARE 100% INCORRECT.

And that source would be....? And you know this source is legit because....? (bare in mind I don't believe you for a second when you say you knew about 9/11 before it happened). I can sit here too and say I have "inside information" and that I know when shit's gonna go down before it does. but I can be talking out my ass just as easily as anyone else can.

THE SOURCE IS HA-SHEM. THE SOURCE IS LEGIT BECAUSE AFTER IM TOLD....THE ACTION TAKES PLACE. NOT ONLY THAT BUT I CAN SEE THE EFFECTS...(BARE IN MIND THAT I DONT CARE IF YOU BELIEVE ME OR NOT. PEOPLE DIDNT BELIEVE JESUS WAS THE MESSIAH. YOUR BELIEF IN WHAT I SAY MEANS NOTHING TO ME. ) NOW PONDER THIS. WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF YOU TALKING OUT YOUR ASS AND IT ACTUALLY HAPPENING? IM GIVING YOU A TIME FRAME.

Actually, you DO dismiss any facts or opinions that do not coincide with yours. You do it all the time. Someone says something like "the US found womd in Iraq" and you'll come back and say "No they didn't. they media is lying. blah blah blah".

THIS IS A FALSE STATEMENT AND HAS NOT BEEN VALIDATED, NOR WILL IT EVER BE VALIDATED.

I HAVE ASKED ABOUT WMD BEING FOUND. SO FAR ALL THE PRO WAR PEOPLE HAVE **FAILED** TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. THEY SAY WMD HAVE BEEN FOUND OR THAT IRAQ HAS THEM. ALL I ASK IS WHO FOUND THEM,WHERE WERE THEY FOUND,WHO REPORTED THE FINDING TO THE UN AND WHAT WERE THE WEAPONS MADE OF.......I NEVER GET AN ANSWER. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A STATEMENT BACK IT UP. PHIL AND MCLEANHATCH STATED THAT RESOLUTION 1441 IMPLIES THE USE OF FORCE. I HAD TO SHOW PHIL AND MCLEANHATCH THAT IT DOESNT. IF YOU TELL ME SOMETHING IM GOING TO LOOK INTO IT. ESPECIALLY IF YOU TAKE A STANCE THATS OPPOSITE OF MINE. IM **NOT** GOING TO SAY ITS WRONG BLAH BLAH BLAH. WHAT I WILL DO IS PRESENT MY EVIDENCE AND *EXPLAIN* WHY YOUR EVIDENCE IS ILLOGICAL AND NOT BASED ON FACT. I DISMISS SOMETHIN AFTER I HAVE LOOKED INTO IT. *NOT* BEFORE. WHY? BECAUSE THE PERSON MAY BE RIGHT.

As a matter of fact, I have. I will sit and watch CNN and think to myself how bias it is. Then I'll think to myself "what isn't bias?" BBC? They're pretty unbiased. But I don't have a BBC channel on my television, I have CNN. But I'm smart enough to be able to sort through the BS news and the real facts. For instance, the US found chemical weapons = fact. The US troops are liberating the Iraqi people = biased opinion.

HOW DO YOU KNOW ITS A FACT? HOW DO YOU KNOW IT ISNT PAINT? HOW DO YOU KNOW IT WASNT PLANTED? WERE YOU PRESENT? OR DO YOU ACCEPT THE VIEWS OF THOSE WHO ENDORSE THE WAR?

yes..like the same thing YOU do and the same thing BLIGHT does and the same thing all of the anti-war people do. And that graph was totally legit. I didn't find it at google; it was pointed out to my by one of my professors.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT EVERY ANSWER I GET IS FROM GOOGLE OR THE NET? IF SO I WILL OFFICIALLY LAUGH AT YOU. LMAO! THAT GRAPH IS A LIE AND YOU KNOW IT. SO BECAUSE YOUR PROFESSOR POINTED IT OUT THAT MEANS ITS ACCURATE? I CITED MANY PROFESSORS,LAWYERS,EX OFFICIALS ETC ETC ETC TO BACK MY CLAIMS....AND YOU IMPLY THAT BECAUSE YOUR PRO POINTED IT OUT THAT ITS CORRECT? LMAO!

So Pearl Harbor wasn't attacked by the Japanese?

I HAVE NOT IMPLIED THIS. YES IT WAS ATTACKED BY JAPANESE.

You're gonna sit there and tell me all this bullshit about the inconceivable things the the US government does, but the chance of extraterristrials is out of the questions? I can back up the Roswell incident with a LOT more info than you can with one of your BS theories.

LMAO! WHY ARE YOU MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS AND CALLING MY THEORIES BS? ARENT YOU SUPPOSED TO BE UNBIASED? ISNT THIS SUPPOSED TO BE AN UNBIASED THREAD? I DONT BELIEVE IN LITTLE GREEN MEN. I BELIEVE THAT WATCHERS,NEPHILLIM,DEMONS,DEVILS,
SERAPHES,THRONES AND PRINCES EXIST. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH HITLER,HIS "ALIEN ENCOUNTERS",OCCULT DEALINGS AND HIS SEARCH FOR A CERTAIN WEAPON?

ha-shem..what is that judaism?

ARE YOU ASKING DOES HASHEM *MEAN* JUDAISM OR IS HASHEM TAKEN FROM JUDAISM? PLEASE CLARIFY.

Occam's Razor is not a religion; it's a system which to base the answers to questions on.

1.HAS ANYONE IMPLIED THAT IT WAS A RELIGION? 2.HAVE I STATED THAT I *DIDNT* KNOW WHAT IT IS OR WHERE IT COMES FROM? SIMPLIST EXPLANATION...2 THINGS....SUPERFLOUS TO ASSUME A THIRD...YADA YADA YADA..

LETS DISCUSS HEGEL.

Ok, it's pretty fucking obvious when you guys post articles from websites. When I see at the top of the page "John Doe reporting from Blah Blah Liberal Media 2003".

IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THE ONLY THING WE DO IS POST ARTICLES FORM WEB SITES FROM THE ENDS OF THE INTERNET YOU *DESERVE* THE FIRST PART OF YOUR NAME. I PRAY THATS NOT THE CASE, I ACTUALLY TOOK YOU TO BE (AT ONE TIME) AN INTELLIGENT BEING.

HERE IS WHERE I KILL YOUR STATEMENTS ONCE AGAIN:

And this thread WAS unbiased.

IF THE THREAD IS UNBIASED HOW CAN THE FOLLOWING BE TRUE?

I used examples with what the anti-war people have done

HOW IS THIS UNBIASED? HOW ARE YOU UNBIASED WHEN YOU SAY THE FOLLOWING:

The anti-war people claim to have "real" facts

The anti-war people criticize the pro-war people

But where are the anti-war people getting their info from?

IF YOU AND THIS THREAD ARE UNBIASED WHY HAVENT YOU MADE ONE STATEMENT IN REGARDS TO PRO WAR PEOPLE AND WHAT THEY CONSIDER?

IF THE FOLLOWING IS DIRECTED AT ALL PARTIES IT APPLIES TO *YOU* ALSO:

None of you actually KNOW anything about this. You're just assuming because you think YOUR source of information is the correct one.

DOES THIS APPLY TO YOU ALSO?


THIS IS A VERY BIASED THREAD.

:h:

 

[GUILLOTINE]

I see psycho logic is full of shit as usual.

 

[I. Cold]

I see psycho logic is full of shit as usual.

an intelligent response. how long did it take for you think it up?

 

[I. Cold]

NOW LETS MOVE ON. ITS RELEVENT TO THE TOPIC BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED WHAT ANTI WAR PEOPLE CALL PRO WAR PEOPLE. AFTER THAT YOU QUESTIONED *WHY*...IF YOUR THREAD IS UNBIASED YOU WOULD HAVE INCLUDED *BOTH* SIDES AND WHAT ***BOTH*** PARTIES DO. INSTEAD YOU LIST WHAT THE OPPOSITION DOES.

I mentioned what the anti-war side does because this board seems to be flooded with tons of anti-americans and to be frank --even though this message WAS unbiased-- I wanted to get my message across to the anti-americans more so than the pro-war people...because as you can see, only anti-war people have replied (actually this thread is pretty much getting slept on). I could just as easily say that it was coincidental that it was the anti-war people I chose to use as an example...bottom line, it doesn't really matter WHY I chose the examples I did.

EITHER ITS RELEVENT OR YOUR THREAD IS BIASED. WHICH ONE IS IT BECAUSE YOU CANT POINT THE FINGER AT SOMEONE ELSE AND SAY YOUR UNBIASED.

No finger pointing. If I pointed fingers, I woulda mentioned your name.

THE MAJORITY (AND I DO MEAN MAJORITY) OF MAJOR MEDIA OWNERS ARE MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNMENT,COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS OR TRILATERAL COMMISION. I MADE AN ENTIRE THREAD DEDICATED TO THIS SUBJECT. I LISTED NAMES,COMPANIES OWNED,MEMBERSHIP AFFILIATION,CONTACT INFO ETC ETC ETC. CHECK THE PAST ARCHIVES (YOUR GONNA HAVE TO DIG DEEP FOR IT). YOU ARE 100% INCORRECT.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that there are media owners that are government members (even though I don't entirely believe it seeing as how you provided no proof), does that give them absolute power over what gets reported? I certainly don't think so. Not at all. You can look into ANY type of business and see that the owners don't have complete controll over what gets reported.. even more so for the media. You know how hard it would be for one or two government members who own a media station to keep the lid on a story about some type of government corruption? I don't think they have a red button at their disposal that dissapears an anchorman/anchorwoman that reports a story which goes against government grain.

THE SOURCE IS HA-SHEM. THE SOURCE IS LEGIT BECAUSE AFTER IM TOLD....THE ACTION TAKES PLACE. NOT ONLY THAT BUT I CAN SEE THE EFFECTS...(BARE IN MIND THAT I DONT CARE IF YOU BELIEVE ME OR NOT. PEOPLE DIDNT BELIEVE JESUS WAS THE MESSIAH. YOUR BELIEF IN WHAT I SAY MEANS NOTHING TO ME. ) NOW PONDER THIS. WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF YOU TALKING OUT YOUR ASS AND IT ACTUALLY HAPPENING? IM GIVING YOU A TIME FRAME. THIS IS A FALSE STATEMENT AND HAS NOT BEEN VALIDATED, NOR WILL IT EVER BE VALIDATED.

K..you find a thread on this board where you claimed two airplanes would fly into the twin towers on 9-11 that you posted BEFORE 9-11, and I'll give you some validation.. Short of that happening, I don't believe and I don't have any reason TO believe you.

I HAVE ASKED ABOUT WMD BEING FOUND. SO FAR ALL THE PRO WAR PEOPLE HAVE **FAILED** TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. THEY SAY WMD HAVE BEEN FOUND OR THAT IRAQ HAS THEM. ALL I ASK IS WHO FOUND THEM,WHERE WERE THEY FOUND,WHO REPORTED THE FINDING TO THE UN AND WHAT WERE THE WEAPONS MADE OF.......I NEVER GET AN ANSWER. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A STATEMENT BACK IT UP.

Well....seeing as how we don't have access to the top secret documents that American government officials do, it would be a tad difficult to physically prove that Sadaam has/had womd. Would you like Phil and I to go to Iraq, search for the weapons, take pictures of ourselves infront of the weapons holding a sign that says "see HERSEY, they DO have them", and come post them on this board?

Give it time. Eventually, they'll find them. Even if they don't, there are other reasons this war happened.

HOW DO YOU KNOW ITS A FACT? HOW DO YOU KNOW IT ISNT PAINT? HOW DO YOU KNOW IT WASNT PLANTED? WERE YOU PRESENT? OR DO YOU ACCEPT THE VIEWS OF THOSE WHO ENDORSE THE WAR?

Well..they found chemicals used for warfare. I highly doubt they conjured up a story like that for the fuck of it. Is it possible they weren't used for warfare? Yes. Is it likely? No.
Endorse the war? That's why the made such a big deal about the American POWS? Check it out.. EVERY SINGLE media station in the goddamn world is biased. Everyone. And if you think differently, you're a complete moron. I would much rather accept the biased news that a DEMOCRATIC society broadcasts rather than a media station ran under a goddamn dictatorship. I mean...can you even agree with that? It's common sense.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT EVERY ANSWER I GET IS FROM GOOGLE OR THE NET? IF SO I WILL OFFICIALLY LAUGH AT YOU. LMAO!

You find somewhere in this thread or any other thread for that matter where I stated "hersey gets his shit from google" and I'll shut up. *quick note, you won't find it cuz I never said it...like YOU said, don't ASSUME shit*

THAT GRAPH IS A LIE AND YOU KNOW IT. SO BECAUSE YOUR PROFESSOR POINTED IT OUT THAT MEANS ITS ACCURATE? I CITED MANY PROFESSORS,LAWYERS,EX OFFICIALS ETC ETC ETC TO BACK MY CLAIMS....AND YOU IMPLY THAT BECAUSE YOUR PRO POINTED IT OUT THAT ITS CORRECT? LMAO!

1) What makes your "professors, lawyers, ex officials" more credible than my professor?

2) It isn't a lie. I believe you stated eariler that you research everything someone says especially if it doesn't conincide with your opinion..correct? Well how bout you research the validity of that graph. I'm sure you'll find it to be undeniable.

I HAVE NOT IMPLIED THIS. YES IT WAS ATTACKED BY JAPANESE. LMAO! WHY ARE YOU MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS AND CALLING MY THEORIES BS? ARENT YOU SUPPOSED TO BE UNBIASED? ISNT THIS SUPPOSED TO BE AN UNBIASED THREAD?

Oh sorry, oh great one. I must have forgotten in your vast abyss of supreme knowledge an implication such as that is absurd (yet the US government being responsible for 9-11 is cogent )

I just call em as I see em.

I DONT BELIEVE IN LITTLE GREEN MEN. I BELIEVE THAT WATCHERS,NEPHILLIM,DEMONS,DEVILS,
SERAPHES,THRONES AND PRINCES EXIST.

Little green men? Way to sound like a condenscending asshole. I bet there is much more evidence behind the existance of aliens than demons...but that's totally beside the point.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH HITLER,HIS "ALIEN ENCOUNTERS",OCCULT DEALINGS AND HIS SEARCH FOR A CERTAIN WEAPON?

No. Sounds interesting though.

ARE YOU ASKING DOES HASHEM *MEAN* JUDAISM OR IS HASHEM TAKEN FROM JUDAISM? PLEASE CLARIFY. 1.HAS ANYONE IMPLIED THAT IT WAS A RELIGION? 2.HAVE I STATED THAT I *DIDNT* KNOW WHAT IT IS OR WHERE IT COMES FROM? SIMPLIST EXPLANATION...2 THINGS....SUPERFLOUS TO ASSUME A THIRD...YADA YADA YADA..

I thought hashem was the jewish god or savior... I always hear them say it. I didn't know what it was.

1. Yes, actually I implied that it was a religion..like I said, that's what I thought. You gonna fly up my ass for for that?

With all due respect (not much), you have made many more assumptions about ME than I have with YOU.

LETS DISCUSS HEGEL. IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THE ONLY THING WE DO IS POST ARTICLES FORM WEB SITES FROM THE ENDS OF THE INTERNET YOU *DESERVE* THE FIRST PART OF YOUR NAME. I PRAY THATS NOT THE CASE, I ACTUALLY TOOK YOU TO BE (AT ONE TIME) AN INTELLIGENT BEING.

What's this? Another assumption by Hersey? By god I think so!

HERE IS WHERE I KILL YOUR STATEMENTS ONCE AGAIN:
IF THE THREAD IS UNBIASED HOW CAN THE FOLLOWING BE TRUE? HOW IS THIS UNBIASED? HOW ARE YOU UNBIASED WHEN YOU SAY THE FOLLOWING: IF YOU AND THIS THREAD ARE UNBIASED WHY HAVENT YOU MADE ONE STATEMENT IN REGARDS TO PRO WAR PEOPLE AND WHAT THEY CONSIDER?

IF THE FOLLOWING IS DIRECTED AT ALL PARTIES IT APPLIES TO *YOU* ALSO: DOES THIS APPLY TO YOU ALSO?

You've yet to kill one statement I've made, let alone my entire thread. How is it unbiased? Because I made it with that very intention. Reguardless of the insinuations you THINK I made, it was completely objective.

Does it apply to me? Well I made it to ask YOU all. I don't ask myself questions I already know the answer to.


God, I'm sick of being right.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

@The Illogical One,

"The reason I laugh at all these stupid myths about the government being behind 9/11 and all that bullshit is because it's ridiculous. "

I have posted two videos in the past two weeks and I have also posted text copies as well. MANY other people on this site have done the same.

On my latest thread you simply stated, "as tempting as it is, I think I'll pass." This clearly shows that you have no interest in listening to what people have to say no matter how much evidence is stacked up.

You really have two choices, to investigate and try to find the truth, or you can stay ignorant. I personally dont care what you choose, just stop making irrational threads/posts about things of which you have absolutely no knowledge of.

 

[I. Cold]

@The Illogical One,

"The reason I laugh at all these stupid myths about the government being behind 9/11 and all that bullshit is because it's ridiculous. "

I have posted two videos in the past two weeks and I have also posted text copies as well. MANY other people on this site have done the same.

On my latest thread you simply stated, "as tempting as it is, I think I'll pass." This clearly shows that you have no interest in listening to what people have to say no matter how much evidence is stacked up.

You really have two choices, to investigate and try to find the truth, or you can stay ignorant. I personally dont care what you choose, just stop making irrational threads/posts about things of which you have absolutely no knowledge of.

Please explain to me why, with my incredibly busy schedule, would I EVER want to sit at my computer and watch a TWO AND A HALF HOUR video that bashes the very country that's making it possible for me to live my life the way I want to live it? Why would I want to?

can you answer that?

Got another question: would you watch a two and a half hour video about the life of George W. Bush and how he's a benevolent, noble person?

Next?

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Please explain to me why, with my incredibly busy schedule, would I EVER want to sit at my computer and watch a TWO AND A HALF HOUR video that bashes the very country that's making it possible for me to live my life the way I want to live it? Why would I want to?

I have a very busy schedule as well, but I still find time to watch/learn/listen on my free time. Tell me, do you watch movies? or TV? How about the time you spend on the siccness and other sites? I'm sure you can find the time.

How would you know the video bashes this country if you didnt watch it? Speaking irrational once again.

The video provides FACTS. Straight FACTS. If you dont believe me watch the video and tell me what is not documented.

Got another question: would you watch a two and a half hour video about the life of George W. Bush and how he's a benevolent, noble person?

I have watched HOURS and HOURS of Bush since he became president. I have also spent HOURS on the net reading speaches from bush and his team of thugs.

I stated before, if you dont want to watch the video, READ THE TEXT. You need to stop acting illogical, and start behaving logical. Read, watch, listen, learn.

You cannot argue with me here. Either watch the video, read the text, or read other threads posted by other members. If not dont aks questions.

Next?

 

[HERESY]

I mentioned what the anti-war side does because this board seems to be flooded with tons of anti-americans and to be frank --even though this message WAS unbiased-- I wanted to get my message across to the anti-americans more so than the pro-war people...because as you can see, only anti-war people have replied (actually this thread is pretty much getting slept on). I could just as easily say that it was coincidental that it was the anti-war people I chose to use as an example...bottom line, it doesn't really matter WHY I chose the examples I did.

YOU WANTED TO GET YOUR MESSAGE TO THE ANTI PROTESTERS. THATS BIASED. IS PHIL ANTI WAR???? IS PHIL A DOG????

No finger pointing. If I pointed fingers, I woulda mentioned your name.

YOU STILL MISS THE MARK. THIS IS A VERY BIASED THREAD.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that there are media owners that are government members (even though I don't entirely believe it seeing as how you provided no proof), does that give them absolute power over what gets reported? I certainly don't think so. Not at all. You can look into ANY type of business and see that the owners don't have complete controll over what gets reported.. even more so for the media. You know how hard it would be for one or two government members who own a media station to keep the lid on a story about some type of government corruption? I don't think they have a red button at their disposal that dissapears an anchorman/anchorwoman that reports a story which goes against government grain.

LOOK INTO THE ARCHIVES I MADE A THREAD ABOUT THIS SUBJECT A LONG TIME AGO. IN FACT I MADE SEVERAL THREADS ABOUT IT. JUST USE YOUR SEARCH FEATURE.KEEP MISSING THE POINT.

K..you find a thread on this board where you claimed two airplanes would fly into the twin towers on 9-11 that you posted BEFORE 9-11, and I'll give you some validation.. Short of that happening, I don't believe and I don't have any reason TO believe you.

AND I HAVE TO REASON TO BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT OR THIS BIASED THREAD. LOL@PLANES BEING FLOWN INTO BUILDINGS.

WHAT I SAID WAS THAT AMERICA WOULD SOON BE ATTACKED. SEVEN DAYS LATER IT HAPPENED. THE THREAD HAD DAMN NEAR 4000 VIEWS AND OVER 1000 REPLIES. I SAID THAT FROM THAT ATTACK WOULD COME A WAR AND FROM THAT WAR WW3 AND GLOBALISM. SO FAR EVERYTHING HAS BEEN ON POINT. THE THREAD WAS MADE ON SEPT 4TH 2001. IF YOU WANT CONTACT VAMPS AND SEE IF THEY STILL HAVE STUFF FROM THE OLD SERVERS.

Give it time. Eventually, they'll find them. Even if they don't, there are other reasons this war happened.

GIVE THEM TIME TO PLANT THE EVIDENCE...SURE.....NOW PEEP THIS. YOU WANT ME TO SHOW YOU PROOF OF WHAT I SAID BEFORE 9-11......YET PEOPLE WHO ASK FOR PROOF OF WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION *BEFORE* THE WAR ARE WRONG???????? WHERE IS THE LOGIC????

You find somewhere in this thread or any other thread for that matter where I stated "hersey gets his shit from google" and I'll shut up. *quick note, you won't find it cuz I never said it...like YOU said, don't ASSUME shit*

DID I ASSUME OR DID I ASK YOU A QUESTION? LOL. SOME LOGIC......

1) What makes your "professors, lawyers, ex officials" more credible than my professor?

NOW I WILL ANSWER A QUESTION WITH A QUESTION. WHAT MAKES YOUR PROFESSOR CREDIBLE?

2) I isn't a lie. I believe you stated eariler that you research everything someone says especially if it doesn't conincide with your opinion..correct? Well how bout you research the validity of that graph. I'm sure you'll find it to be undeniable.

THE GRAPH IS A LIE.

Oh sorry, oh great one. I must have forgotten in your vast abyss of supreme knowledge an implication such as that is absurd (yet the US government being responsible for 9-11 is cogent )

IVE POSTED MORE PROOF LINKING THEM TO THE CRIMES THAN YOU HAVE THAT VINDICATES THEM. LETS START WITH ARBUSTO ENERGY AND THE KARLYLE CORP.

Little green men? Way to sound like a condenscending asshole. I bet there is much more evidence behind the existance of aliens than demons...but that's totally beside the point.

YOU BROPUGHT IT UP.

I thought hashem was the jewish god or savior... I always hear them say it. I didn't know what it was.

1. Yes, actually I implied that it was a religion..like I said, that's what I thought. You gonna fly up my ass for for that?

With all due respect (not much), you have made many more assumptions about ME than I have with YOU.

YOUR RESPECT IS NOT NEEDED. I GET THROUGH THE DAY AND DO JUST FINE WITHOUT IT. NO HASHEM IS NOT A RELIGION. YES HASHEM IS THE NAME OF GOD. NO ONE IS GONNA FLY UP YOUR ASS....HOWEVER IF IT RESEMBLES WHAT HAPPENED DURING 9-11....NAW FORGET IT.

I HAVE MADE NO ASSUMPTION. ALL I HAVE DONE IS ***ASKED** YOU QUESTIONS. NOTHING MORE.

What's this? Another assumption by Hersey? By god I think so!

HOW IS IT AN ASSUMPTION? I SAID *IF*. I ALSO SAID THAT I PRAY THAT IT ISNT THE CASE. IF I WERE ASSUMING I WOULD HAVE BASICALLY SAID THAT YOU THINK EVERYONE GETS INFO FROM GOOGLE ETC ETC ETC.

You've yet to kill one statement I've made.

LMAO! WHEN YOU MADE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT WAS IT TRUE?

hersey...once again, you're answering questions with questions.

I SEE YOU DIDNT BOTHER WITH CUTTING AND PASTING MY REPLIES TO THAT :dead:. KILLED IT....

How is it unbiased? Because I made it with that very intention. Reguardless of the insinuations you THINK I made, it was completely objective.

NO MAN. THE ***FACTS** SHOW THAT YOU MADE A BIASED THREAD. YOU ARE SHOWING A PREFERENCE FOR PRO WAR, YOU HAVE NOT MENTIONED THE ACTIONS OF PRO WAR PEOPLE,YOU HAVE NOT LISTED THE VIEWS OF PRO WAR PEOPLE NOR HAVE YOU PLACED THEM IN THE SEAT OF SCRUTINY. YET YOU HAVE LISTED ANTI WAR PEOPLE ETC ETC ETC IN YOUR INITIAL POST......AND YOU SAY YOUR UNBIASED???

Does it apply to me? Well I made it to ask YOU all. I don't ask myself questions I already know the answer to.

WHO IS YOU ALL? ANTI WAR PEOPLE????? I LOVE HOW YOU REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE EQUATION...I DONT KNOW HOW YOU SEE IT AND IF YOU FEEL YOUR STATEMENT APPLIES TO YOU. THATS WHY I ASKED. IF YOUR UNBIASED YOU WOULD HAVE NO TROUBLE ANSWERING THE QUESTION.

None of you actually KNOW anything about this. You're just assuming because you think YOUR source of information is the correct one.

DOES THIS STATEMENT APPLY TO YOU? YES OR NO WILL SUFFICE. ITS RELEVENT TO THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOU SAID IT AND I ALSO QUESTION *YOUR* SOURCE MATERIAL. IS STATEMENT DIRECTED AT PRO WAR PEOPLE ALSO?

DID YOU READ THE LAST PART OF 206 POST?

You really have two choices, to investigate and try to find the truth, or you can stay ignorant. I personally dont care what you choose, just stop making irrational threads/posts about things of which you have absolutely no knowledge of.

TAKE HIS ADVICE.

:H:


PS EXCUSE ANY TYPOS.

 

[HERESY]

I wanted to get my message across to the anti-americans more so than the pro-war people

THATS NOT BIASED????????????????????

bottom line, it doesn't really matter WHY I chose the examples I did.

????????


@206 LEAVE THIS GUY ALONE.:dead:


:H:

 

[I. Cold]

I have a very busy schedule as well, but I still find time to watch/learn/listen on my free time. Tell me, do you watch movies? or TV? How about the time you spend on the siccness and other sites? I'm sure you can find the time.

No, I do NOT have 2 and a half hours to watch that. I watch movies to be entertaining. I don't really consider propoganda entertaining.

How would you know the video bashes this country if you didnt watch it? Speaking irrational once again.

The video provides FACTS. Straight FACTS. If you dont believe me watch the video and tell me what is not documented.

Facts? According to who? You? lol

hahahahah

whooooo

I have watched HOURS and HOURS of Bush since he became president. I have also spent HOURS on the net reading speaches from bush and his team of thugs.

I stated before, if you dont want to watch the video, READ THE TEXT. You need to stop acting illogical, and start behaving logical. Read, watch, listen, learn.

You cannot argue with me here. Either watch the video, read the text, or read other threads posted by other members. If not dont aks questions.

Next?

Good job dodging my question. Did I ask if you've spent hours reading his speaches on the net?

No. I asked: would you watch a two and a half hour PROPOGANDA (yes, propoganda...exactly what that shit you posted is) about Bush's life and his benevolence, WOULD YOU WATCH IT?

See, I have a life. I don't have time to sit and watch some bullshit (which I KNOW is bullshit) for two and a half hours.

I guess you're into that dumb conspiracy shit. I'm not. I'm into alien stuff. If I were to ask you to watch a two hour video on the Roswell crash (assuming you have no interest in UFOs) so you could see that the government tried to cover it up, would you watch it?

 

[I. Cold]

I'm done arguing whether this thread is biased. It isn't. If you want to whine about it being biased some more, then by all means, do so..but you won't get a response.

LOOK INTO THE ARCHIVES I MADE A THREAD ABOUT THIS SUBJECT A LONG TIME AGO. IN FACT I MADE SEVERAL THREADS ABOUT IT. JUST USE YOUR SEARCH FEATURE.KEEP MISSING THE POINT. AND I HAVE TO REASON TO BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT OR THIS BIASED THREAD. LOL@PLANES BEING FLOWN INTO BUILDINGS.

WHAT I SAID WAS THAT AMERICA WOULD SOON BE ATTACKED. SEVEN DAYS LATER IT HAPPENED. THE THREAD HAD DAMN NEAR 4000 VIEWS AND OVER 1000 REPLIES. I SAID THAT FROM THAT ATTACK WOULD COME A WAR AND FROM THAT WAR WW3 AND GLOBALISM. SO FAR EVERYTHING HAS BEEN ON POINT. THE THREAD WAS MADE ON SEPT 4TH 2001. IF YOU WANT CONTACT VAMPS AND SEE IF THEY STILL HAVE STUFF FROM THE OLD SERVERS.

Where's the thread?

GIVE THEM TIME TO PLANT THE EVIDENCE...SURE.....NOW PEEP THIS.

Your aligations mean nothing.

YOU WANT ME TO SHOW YOU PROOF OF WHAT I SAID BEFORE 9-11......YET PEOPLE WHO ASK FOR PROOF OF WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION *BEFORE* THE WAR ARE WRONG????????

Like I said, showing concrete evidence isn't easy when you aren't a top secret government official.

DID I ASSUME OR DID I ASK YOU A QUESTION?

You made an overt insinuation in the form of a question..
What's funny? Where you under the impression that assumptions have to be bold statements? lol@you.

THE GRAPH IS A LIE.

Wow..you're just oozing with authority.

TAKE HIS ADVICE.

Take advice from a moron? No thanks. But since you seem so gung ho about checkin shit out that you have no interest in, there's some alien abduction movies I have that I could rip. Wanna watch?